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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2021, 07:55:28 AM »
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2021, 05:55:27 PM »
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol

Guessing it wasn't a PS Stix, now they are from somewhere in China (Excel or Dalian Hauhong) and would have much steeper kicks, that resemble Dwindle concave and kicks.

You can always drive over it or park on the kicks to mellow them out some.


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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2021, 10:49:58 AM »
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol
Park your car on the kicks for an hour and you will be good to go if you want mellow.
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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2021, 11:21:39 AM »
I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2021, 05:31:17 PM »
I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.


Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.




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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2021, 07:28:35 PM »
Is this a deck measuring contest now

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2021, 09:44:30 PM »
Is this a deck measuring contest now
…always has been.
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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2021, 10:53:03 PM »
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.

Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2021, 08:31:18 AM »
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.
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Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.


Yes I understand and agree with all that.

Some boards can feel so different, even with the same everything else.

If the kicks are too steep, I lose so much and feel way off balance, but if I skate a board with kicks that are too mellow and get used to that, everything else I skate feels weird for a while, so the natural adjustment takes a bit for some things, more than others.

That might not make as much sense - it is late and I should have been asleep a few hours ago.


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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2021, 10:37:17 AM »
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.
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Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.
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Yes I understand and agree with all that.

Some boards can feel so different, even with the same everything else.

If the kicks are too steep, I lose so much and feel way off balance, but if I skate a board with kicks that are too mellow and get used to that, everything else I skate feels weird for a while, so the natural adjustment takes a bit for some things, more than others.

That might not make as much sense - it is late and I should have been asleep a few hours ago.

It definitely makes sense. I’m still searching for that Goldilocks setup myself. What exactly it is that makes it work. Steep kicks I can’t get along with. I prefer mellow but then I have to use big wheels and risers, which I actually prefer. Mellow kick boards aren’t that easy to come by though and in the past I’ve had to buy mostly online so it’s been very hit and miss for me and I’ve tried to make most things work sometimes for too long. Sometimes it just takes some adjustments and a little bit of time. Sometimes it just won’t work no matter what.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2021, 10:43:23 AM »
I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2021, 10:51:50 AM »
I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?

Not everyones taste but DGK do some narrower boards with longer wheelbases. I like their shapes.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2021, 12:50:21 AM »
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
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Not everyones taste but DGK do some narrower boards with longer wheelbases. I like their shapes.

I like DGK, but I haven't bought their decks in a while, because here in Germany they are 10-20 euros more expensive than any other brand. I would like to buy one, though.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2021, 07:49:08 AM »
Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2021, 11:35:49 AM »
Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.

The Polar 9.0” is actually 14.375” like all their other decks they claim to be 14.5”. Not sure about the 8.75”. Never had that myself.

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Re: What about deck length?
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2021, 03:36:17 PM »
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Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.
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The Polar 9.0” is actually 14.375” like all their other decks they claim to be 14.5”. Not sure about the 8.75”. Never had that myself.


I wonder if some listings for some shops are incorrect but even on the Polar site, the 9.0 popsicle has it listed as 14.5 which is a bit funny.

https://polarskateco.com/products/hjalte-halberg-lurking-wheel-well

9.0" X 32.25"  - WITH WHEEL WELLS
NOSE: 7.0"
WHEEL BASE: 14.5"
TAIL: 6.75"



The 8.75 Polar boards that I have are the same dimensions as this one (below).

The only thing I noticed is the tail really tapers a lot from the back bolts, but it still skates fine.


https://polarskateco.com/products/nick-bosserio-year-2020-moss-green


8.75" X 32.375"
NOSE: 7.25"
WHEEL BASE: 14.375"
TAIL: 6.75"