Wtf is up with the nine club

[Kook Me Amadeus]

- I DO think you like to twist words to try to cause false controversies, like you just tried to and I DO think that's not a good look

Am I twisting your words, or do you lack the self awareness to recognize what you’re saying?

[rkulla]

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- I DO think you like to twist words to try to cause false controversies, like you just tried to and I DO think that's not a good look

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Am I twisting your words, or do you lack the self awareness to recognize what you’re saying?

The former but you seem to defensive to listen to reason. Oh well. I tried.

[busch]

This dude kinda sucks, you feel me?

[manuduncan]

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genuinely not trying to be a hater, but the show, and live show especially feels so formulaic and sorta forced nowadays. Feels like they all just show up every week because they’re used to doing a show and not because they actually care or are invested in skateboarding anymore. Chris even alluded to wanting to escape being tied to skateboarding in a recent episode, like he’s pigeonholed or something.

Also the mental gymnastics they’re pulling on that recent show to somehow differentiate themselves from skate YouTubers or whatever is baffling. They really put themselves on this pedestal because they were pro at one point and have industry access, but they’re dropping shocked face thumbnails and clickbait titles on their videos. I don’t like the hypocrisy and lately I’ve just been getting a vibe that these dudes are a representation of the clicky, elitist side of the industry that you always hear about. Feels like the mask is coming off a bit.

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I am intrigued now. And not shooting your thoughts down in any way. I’m here for the convo.

Do you remember exactly on what episode they were differentiating from skate YouTubers? Curious to listen to the nuance in what they said, because they made an effort to have their backs on Ben D’s episode by even referring to them as “skaters that YouTube”.

And it always seems that they 100% support skaters looking for alternative incomes streams other than pro skating.

It wouldn’t fit into their MO if they were all of a sudden saying in some way that they’re better than any skateboarder that YouTube’s.

(Yes I know you got a channel, been watching since you had less than 1000 subs, when you made a review on the x97’s vs the Dragons… and it straight up made me go buy x97’s the next day. Just didn’t want to seem like I was being combative in my comments )

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I think it was the last live episode that was like 4 hours long,within the first 20 or so minutes, it wasn’t exactly what they said it was how they said it. Chris and Kelly were having a back and forth about YT and how they get recommended videos from random skate channels and the whole exchange just felt really dismissive and condescending. I also should state that I was a bit buzzed when I watched it so the possibility of me taking something out of context is entirely possible lol. I’ll revisit it and if I was just in my feelings over something minuscule I’ll modify my comment lol. Also really appreciate you watching my shit, man. I hope you liked the X97’s. I ended up swapping back to F4’s shortly after just out of preference but I still recommend those wheels to people looking for a softer ride.

off topic but the x97s saved my knees and ankles i can skate for so much longer too with them because they're fast as hell and you don't have to push as much. they're not as fast as dragons but they dont get in the way of slides the way dragons do

[Dad Board]

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genuinely not trying to be a hater, but the show, and live show especially feels so formulaic and sorta forced nowadays. Feels like they all just show up every week because they’re used to doing a show and not because they actually care or are invested in skateboarding anymore. Chris even alluded to wanting to escape being tied to skateboarding in a recent episode, like he’s pigeonholed or something.

Also the mental gymnastics they’re pulling on that recent show to somehow differentiate themselves from skate YouTubers or whatever is baffling. They really put themselves on this pedestal because they were pro at one point and have industry access, but they’re dropping shocked face thumbnails and clickbait titles on their videos. I don’t like the hypocrisy and lately I’ve just been getting a vibe that these dudes are a representation of the clicky, elitist side of the industry that you always hear about. Feels like the mask is coming off a bit.

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I am intrigued now. And not shooting your thoughts down in any way. I’m here for the convo.

Do you remember exactly on what episode they were differentiating from skate YouTubers? Curious to listen to the nuance in what they said, because they made an effort to have their backs on Ben D’s episode by even referring to them as “skaters that YouTube”.

And it always seems that they 100% support skaters looking for alternative incomes streams other than pro skating.

It wouldn’t fit into their MO if they were all of a sudden saying in some way that they’re better than any skateboarder that YouTube’s.

(Yes I know you got a channel, been watching since you had less than 1000 subs, when you made a review on the x97’s vs the Dragons… and it straight up made me go buy x97’s the next day. Just didn’t want to seem like I was being combative in my comments )

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I think it was the last live episode that was like 4 hours long,within the first 20 or so minutes, it wasn’t exactly what they said it was how they said it. Chris and Kelly were having a back and forth about YT and how they get recommended videos from random skate channels and the whole exchange just felt really dismissive and condescending. I also should state that I was a bit buzzed when I watched it so the possibility of me taking something out of context is entirely possible lol. I’ll revisit it and if I was just in my feelings over something minuscule I’ll modify my comment lol. Also really appreciate you watching my shit, man. I hope you liked the X97’s. I ended up swapping back to F4’s shortly after just out of preference but I still recommend those wheels to people looking for a softer ride.

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off topic but the x97s saved my knees and ankles i can skate for so much longer too with them because they're fast as hell and you don't have to push as much. they're not as fast as dragons but they dont get in the way of slides the way dragons do

I was actually considering throwing them back on specifically for a session at a notoriously slippery skatepark later. It’s been really rainy and the park gets even sketchier since there’s a large opening allowing rain and moisture to get in on some of the park but people track water all over the skatelite and smooth ground. I’m a spitfire loyalist for the most part but I’m also not trying to skate on an ice rink

*edit - threw on the x97’s for about 10 minutes and did not like them at all. Found a little kid with shitty wheels and gave them away. F4 is still king.

[mikevsleftlightningtat]

Gary insisting over and over his weird cameo was in og BHADW was infuriating

[Oh yeahhhhhhh!]

I really don’t like the cut of Rkulla’s jib. I get the feeling any opinion the guy has about skating is informed by the Nine club. Hate to break it to him, but they only like and shout him out because he donates a lot of money to the show. Peeped the dudes IG and it’s like a virtual shrine to those guys. Wouldn’t be surprised if he went all Mark David Chapman on Crob if he ever stops doing the show.

Rkulla consuming all Nine Club content

[texastoast]

crob should run an of and see if rkulla’s loyalty would run that deep

[rkulla]

[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

[coldbrew]

[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

The irony.

There are plenty of people in this 80+ page thread discussing the actual issues with the show but you clearly are going to ignore those and just conveniently note the "boring internet troll-like responses".

[pizzafliptofakie]

[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

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idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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I've been reading this SLAP thread for what, a year, and you think I'm in an echo chamber?  People are flat out being childish trolls and telling people how to run their lives, and when I say as much _I'm_ the childish one?  People here claim they want to show to do better, I want slap to do better and everyone has a big problem with that. Pretty silly if you ask me.  Talk about an echo chamber...

Furthermore, I'll repeat myself about how I don't care about the valid criticism. I see those comments on their youtube, discord, etc as well and don't take issue with them. Everyone is entitled to those opinions and once in a while I even agree with some of them.  I've even gone as far as going on a podcast and defending seemingly "haters" for being just as valid sometimes in their criticism and passion for caring about the a show.

Sadly everything degrades to ad-hominem for the sake of entertainment online. I can't do anything about that, apparently no one can or it would have happened by now.

I've said all I could possibly ever want to say about this. Believe what you will.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Rkulla is clearly a typo of “krulla”, an authentically Boston pronunciation and misspelling of cruller. We also know, Roger bagley, a Boston native, has espoused his affection for dunkin donuts and specifically their crullers multiple times….

Furthermore, if you add up rkullas rep and posts, you get -12. Then, after subtracting eldy, steezus, and roger, the former on screen hosts of the nine club shows, you get -9, as in the 9 club…

Rkulla = Roger bagley? Psyop confirmed.

[arrbee]

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[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

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idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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I've been reading this SLAP thread for what, a year, and you think I'm in an echo chamber?  People are flat out being childish trolls and telling people how to run their lives, and when I say as much _I'm_ the childish one?  People here claim they want to show to do better, I want slap to do better and everyone has a big problem with that. Pretty silly if you ask me.  Talk about an echo chamber...

Big ask there. This place has been a cesspool for years. Thats why I love it here. I post some room temperature takes, people tell me I'm a fucking idiot, then I just keep going on about life.

I suggest the gear threads if you want useful, passionate conversations in this space.

EDIT: to say that there are industry people here on the boards and they are almost all revered here once they embrace what this place is.

[pizzafliptofakie]

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[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

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idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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I've been reading this SLAP thread for what, a year, and you think I'm in an echo chamber?  People are flat out being childish trolls and telling people how to run their lives, and when I say as much _I'm_ the childish one?  People here claim they want to show to do better, I want slap to do better and everyone has a big problem with that. Pretty silly if you ask me.  Talk about an echo chamber...

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Furthermore, I'll repeat myself about how I don't care about the valid criticism. I see those comments on their youtube, discord, etc as well and don't take issue with them. Everyone is entitled to those opinions and once in a while I even agree with some of them.  I've even gone as far as going on a podcast and defending seemingly "haters" for being just as valid sometimes in their criticism and passion for caring about the a show.

Sadly everything degrades to ad-hominem for the sake of entertainment online. I can't do anything about that, apparently no one can or it would have happened by now.

I've said all I could possibly ever want to say about this. Believe what you will.

There were a lot of valid criticisms being made that prompted you to respond about "life gurus". Even the people responding to you since have been pretty tame as far as the internet goes. You haven't acknowledged a single actual point and just keep insisting that everyone's a troll. That would be like me reducing the Nine Club's community to all of the unchecked transphobic dickheads on Marbie's comment section, or the people applauding Jason Jesse for discussing being a washed up Nazi. It's a broad brush to paint with and an immature way to look at the world.

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[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

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idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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I've been reading this SLAP thread for what, a year, and you think I'm in an echo chamber?  People are flat out being childish trolls and telling people how to run their lives, and when I say as much _I'm_ the childish one?  People here claim they want to show to do better, I want slap to do better and everyone has a big problem with that. Pretty silly if you ask me.  Talk about an echo chamber...

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Furthermore, I'll repeat myself about how I don't care about the valid criticism. I see those comments on their youtube, discord, etc as well and don't take issue with them. Everyone is entitled to those opinions and once in a while I even agree with some of them.  I've even gone as far as going on a podcast and defending seemingly "haters" for being just as valid sometimes in their criticism and passion for caring about the a show.

Sadly everything degrades to ad-hominem for the sake of entertainment online. I can't do anything about that, apparently no one can or it would have happened by now.

I've said all I could possibly ever want to say about this. Believe what you will.

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There were a lot of valid criticisms being made that prompted you to respond about "life gurus". Even the people responding to you since have been pretty tame as far as the internet goes. You haven't acknowledged a single actual point and just keep insisting that everyone's a troll. That would be like me reducing the Nine Club's community to all of the unchecked transphobic dickheads on Marbie's comment section, or the people applauding Jason Jesse for discussing being a washed up Nazi. It's a broad brush to paint with and an immature way to look at the world.

You _must_ be referring to how I didn't single any specific person out, but I don't think you're even reading the full thread, since you said I called "everyone" a troll, when i consistently used wording much differently than "everyone", and the mere fact that _some_ people are literally trolling me in between each response.

You're also cherrypicking and doing everything you claim I am. Not a single response about how I've defended healthy criticism.  I'm going with the other guy who just said this place is a cesspool because I've already put enough effort into trying to have a better discussion.  The only thing I'm guilty of is I shouldn't have worded it as "are you guys skaters or life coaches?" but again, I have to point out the irony that you can dish it out all day but can't take even an ounce back.

I've truly exhausted all I could say about this. See my previous posts for any further clarification. Going back to occasional read-only mode and won't bother pointing out the obvious hypocrisies I notice since it accomplishes nothing but a waste of typing.

[manysnakes]

I don't know a nice way to tell you this, but no one should care this much about the Nine Club.

[rkulla]

I don't know a nice way to tell you this, but no one should care this much about the Nine Club.

If you like, actually knew me, you'd know I almost certainly support at least something you like. Won't bother to list it since I'm not a brand or trying to self-promote, which freed me up to have a pretty honest dialog but as usual everyone on the internet is an expert about someone else.  Just proving my point ad nauseam. Forgive me for not responding beyond this point to anyone, even if you have some valid things to say.  Again, read above if you actually care about what was said. ^

[manysnakes]

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I don't know a nice way to tell you this, but no one should care this much about the Nine Club.

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If you like, actually knew me, you'd know I almost certainly support at least something you like. Won't bother to list it since I'm not a brand or trying to self-promote, which freed me up to have a pretty honest dialog but as usual everyone on the internet is an expert about someone else.  Just proving my point ad nauseam. Forgive me for not responding beyond this point to anyone, even if you have some valid things to say.  Again, read above if you actually care about what was said. ^

That doesn't really address the issue of having this much passion for something as banal as the friendly skateboarding podcast.

[pizzafliptofakie]

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[PAUSE] Am I like supposed to feel bad about being loyal, supportive to the point of putting my money where my mouth is, willing to interact with people I disagree with and even call them on their BS, non-anonymously to boot?

I was hoping this community would actually be able to take a little criticism and discuss it intelligently rather than the usual boring internet troll-like responses that most of the skate industry criticizes SLAP for but clearly I was wrong.  As you were.

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idk man, it kinda sounds like you wandered away from an echo chamber and you're surprised that people have something to say about a thing that you really like. It's fine if you disagree with a lot of the opinions in here, but it's pretty childish to call people trolls and "gurus" because of it.

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I've been reading this SLAP thread for what, a year, and you think I'm in an echo chamber?  People are flat out being childish trolls and telling people how to run their lives, and when I say as much _I'm_ the childish one?  People here claim they want to show to do better, I want slap to do better and everyone has a big problem with that. Pretty silly if you ask me.  Talk about an echo chamber...

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Furthermore, I'll repeat myself about how I don't care about the valid criticism. I see those comments on their youtube, discord, etc as well and don't take issue with them. Everyone is entitled to those opinions and once in a while I even agree with some of them.  I've even gone as far as going on a podcast and defending seemingly "haters" for being just as valid sometimes in their criticism and passion for caring about the a show.

Sadly everything degrades to ad-hominem for the sake of entertainment online. I can't do anything about that, apparently no one can or it would have happened by now.

I've said all I could possibly ever want to say about this. Believe what you will.

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There were a lot of valid criticisms being made that prompted you to respond about "life gurus". Even the people responding to you since have been pretty tame as far as the internet goes. You haven't acknowledged a single actual point and just keep insisting that everyone's a troll. That would be like me reducing the Nine Club's community to all of the unchecked transphobic dickheads on Marbie's comment section, or the people applauding Jason Jesse for discussing being a washed up Nazi. It's a broad brush to paint with and an immature way to look at the world.

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You _must_ be referring to how I didn't single any specific person out, but I don't think you're even reading the full thread, since you said I called "everyone" a troll, when i consistently used wording much differently than "everyone", and the mere fact that _some_ people are literally trolling me in between each response.

You're also cherrypicking and doing everything you claim I am. Not a single response about how I've defended healthy criticism.  I'm going with the other guy who just said this place is a cesspool because I've already put enough effort into trying to have a better discussion.  The only thing I'm guilty of is I shouldn't have worded it as "are you guys skaters or life coaches?" but again, I have to point out the irony that you can dish it out all day but can't take even an ounce back.

I've truly exhausted all I could say about this. See my previous posts for any further clarification. Going back to occasional read-only mode and won't bother pointing out the obvious hypocrisies I notice since it accomplishes nothing but a waste of typing.

It's not "irony", it's a bad point. I'm sorry that people are having an honest discussion and that this cesspool doesn't have a donation button to serve as a friendship simulator. 

[arrbee]

Someone as skate nerdy as Tim Olson has to be on here somewhere. How are you doing 3 more hours a week and demonetizing the live just to play the music? That cant make financial sense. Did the show get a streaming deal? Bigger ad read payouts? Was this discussed? I don't religiously follow this thread or watch the lives, just curious?

[Madam, I'm Adam]

Rkulla is clearly a typo of “krulla”, an authentically Boston pronunciation and misspelling of cruller. We also know, Roger bagley, a Boston native, has espoused his affection for dunkin donuts and specifically their crullers multiple times….

Furthermore, if you add up rkullas rep and posts, you get -12. Then, after subtracting eldy, steezus, and roger, the former on screen hosts of the nine club shows, you get -9, as in the 9 club…

Rkulla = Roger bagley? Psyop confirmed.

Not to mention that nine is divisible by three.

Bagels. crullers, donuts - three treats.
Nine club - three hosts.

We're through the looking glass here, people.

[thehogsniper]

I really don't want to cut this RKulla guy too deep, because I'm sure he's probably a fine enough guy off the boards, but I'm gonna say a few things and they're not going to be nice. I was reading through your post history and noticed interesting but conflicting things: firstly, in your last post you said that you "Won't bother to list it since I'm not a brand or trying to self-promote" yet you mentioned by name another podcast called the WhereTheLocalsSk8 in September. Now, it's interesting you would bring this up considering you appeared on an entire episode of this nine-club style show a month before. You're the only person in the entire history of SLAP to mention WhereTheLocalsSk8. That's self-promotion. Not only that, but you've been given a tour of the entire nine-club studio (which was mentioned on the Nine-Club live, with the crew spending more time discussing their new air conditioning). You have a stake in this entire thing by the sheer amount of money you've given these random strangers on the internet, which is why you take so much offense to SLAP's "trolling" (which isn't trolling but banter). there is only a minor difference between you and people who subscribe to OnlyFans, and that's the commodity being exchanged.

[Jagr]

I don't know a nice way to tell you this, but no one should care this much about the Nine Club.

[Dad Board]

Kulla, a word of advice from an unbiased newcomer to the board myself, you can’t just go to a place and start insulting people and expect them to have discourse with you simply because you think you deserve it. People have heard your name come up on the show everytime you donate, but that doesn’t mean anything outside of your own experience. You’re not owed respect anywhere, especially if you don’t give it first. Seems like you had Slap already sorted out in your mind as some festering troll cave and you came in here with that energy. As if asking if people are life coaches just because they’re being critical of a thing that you’ve attached yourself to isn’t snarky enough, you then decided to play victim and spin it as if you’re being attacked when presented with valid counter arguments.

I don’t know you personally but you recently followed me on IG so I assume you know that I’m not just some troll sitting in my basement brooding over things I don’t like. This thread is a place for fans of the show to discuss and/or be critical without fear of being silenced by the fingers of unrelenting positivity or the “good vibes only” mob that would otherwise attack any dissenters in the YT or IG comment section.

I’ve had nothing but positive interactions on Slap in the month or two I’ve been active here. I heard a lot of bullshit about this place over the years but it’s been welcoming and informative if nothing else.

You get the energy back that you put out there, Ryan. In this case you were looking for trouble and now people are giving it to you. Just some food for thought.

[the canadian suit]

Honestly I’m just hyped to find out that YES rkulla is confirmed a moron

[somedudefromnj]

Rkulla is clearly a typo of “krulla”, an authentically Boston pronunciation and misspelling of cruller. We also know, Roger bagley, a Boston native, has espoused his affection for dunkin donuts and specifically their crullers multiple times….

Furthermore, if you add up rkullas rep and posts, you get -12. Then, after subtracting eldy, steezus, and roger, the former on screen hosts of the nine club shows, you get -9, as in the 9 club…

Rkulla = Roger bagley? Psyop confirmed.

bruh 

Kulla man, as someone whos seen some of his favorite companies dwindle away i must say big ups to you for supporting something you like. Crailtap hasnt been something ive been interested in for a long time, and im glad the nine club gave Jeron, and Eldy somewhere to tiptoe back into relevance. While I know they showcase more than just crail riders seeing those videos of them at the curbs, giving Mike York, Castillo, and others a fun way of being documented has been something I appreciate as again those are my childhood favorites.

Slap's criticism of nine club is valid, and you supporting them is valid too.

There is room for nuance

[grassblade]

you gotta be a real loser to donate to the nine club

[TheWineClub]

The nine club doesn’t like you, they like your money.

[jgonzalez]

Zach Krulla

Imagine wearing a nine club sweater or tee or logo grip.

Just read the thrasher with the GX cover and the junk drawer or whatever had two slap jokes. Pizza flips sawcon and Grecos side pipe. The industry is here on slap lol get of your today show podcast high horse this place isn’t that bad

Kelly must regret pushing that facial joke so much I got second hand embarassment and would wake up the next morning with regret “fore shore” and so what if someone is a cum guzzler yeah some lo key homophobia and must be isolating to female and non cis men skaters