The criticism might be less confusing if people didn't conflate the LIVE show with the regular interview show. They're very different formats. I seen some people say they like the LIVE but not the regular one, and vice/versa. Or some say they stopped watching when it was the EXPERIENCE show.
The new LIVE show has been on a year and is similar to EXPERIENCE but doesn't have Steezus and Eldy. So all of those complaints about them are pretty outdated. I like those guys, so nothing against them.
Saying all of TNC sucks because you might have hated the old EXPERIENCE show seems strange. Chris has a whole separate show called "I'm Glad I'm Not Me" that is also a different format.
It may all seem like the same thing because it's got Crob at the center "Nine Club with Chris Roberts" but they're all totally different to me. I gaurantee that at least some of your favorite pros have been on the MAIN interview show and don't you think that it's kind of insulting to them to act like they went on some whack show just because you didn't like certain guests or certain side-shows?
nah I don't think that.
If this is in reply (at least in part) to my post above, they aren't doing enough to make me care about the differences and I'm allowed to like what I like.
I enjoy some of the interviews but mostly I enjoy it more when they watch and talk about clips; and I enjoy when they watch and talk about clips on the Experience if they've done the pre-planning (which they no longer do). I don't care to learn where someone went to school and what age they got their first complete.
I think that's why GH is resonating with a more people now - he watches parts and genuinely gives a shit about the parts, either positive or negative. The nine club dudes (other than Kelly) don't seem to give a shit about skateboarding anymore.
Also I still don't understand the point of Crobs own show. I watched the last one and he just went to the Courthouse and talked about tricks he might do, and did a dragged nose manual thing, and moaned about his injury. Compare that to the Dern bros who go to a spot, talk about it, skate it, AND show a retrospective of clips done there; while sometimes interviewing the dudes who did the tricks. Crob made it seem like a chore to be there (which is kind of his whole persona), while the Dern's seem joyous.
Add in the Bunt, and This Old Ledge - two other shows that also still love what they do and spend time on making it interesting - and it makes it seem like the Nine Club either needs to bring some joy back into what they do or wrap it up. If they enjoy what they are doing now, fine... but that doesn't make them above criticism.