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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2610 on: February 20, 2024, 08:21:41 AM »
Ron's "business man" line was indeed dope. Episode had me thinking and laughing in the best ways.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2611 on: February 20, 2024, 10:43:26 AM »
I know this is a long shot, but Ron Allen had an essay about skating Oakland at night in one of the early issues of Slap. This was back when you could hit all the regular Oakland spots--Tech, Wells Fargo, the museum, Rockridge BART, etc.--and not see another skater. Anyone know if there's a scan of that somewhere?

Also, to the story about the cops fucking with him in Chicago, he talked about it at Skatercon with Bill Danforth, who was obviously in his cups that day. It's a lot funnier in this retelling at 19:20.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJ-3E_xzc8




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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2612 on: February 20, 2024, 07:30:28 PM »
Ron episode is fucking great, had it on while doing some work, amazing rainy day entertainment.  Awesome stories as expected.  Dude is a livewire, like @radcunt presaged, itís a few hours of turbo mode.  Also the last untimestamped 45 minutes of interviews tend to be pretty interesting, love all the general industry perspectives/commentary that come out once everythingís covered beyond the chronological life portions.


Love Ron, can't wait to get immediately worn out listening to this!

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2613 on: February 22, 2024, 12:59:47 AM »
Ron Allen episode is pretty entertaining, loved the stories.

But I think he has his timelines warped at times: FUN was way earlier than 94/95 like he said. Keenan was on FUN and by 95 he was already on Chocolate. Paco came out in 95 so it was probably filmed in 94, and Keenan was on one of the Rocco companies in between FUN and Chocolate. So 92/93 is probably more accurate time period for FUN? I know that for younger people that sounds insignificant cause it was decades ago anyway but skating moved so fast in those times. 92 was a different era than 95.

Also, he said Media / Syndrome distribution offered him a deal when H-Street was starting in 87. That sounds off. I remember Media being around in 94 or so and it was definitely not a top tier company. Was Syndrome around in the 80's already? Did Syndrome do Zorlac? If they did, they could have been around then but Media in 87 sounds weird.

And he also said Koston was around when he signed his first H-Street pro contract in Vegas in 87 when the company was starting. That's like Shackle Me Not -era, sounds way too early for Koston. Surely Koston wasn't involved from the start of H-Street? He was like 12 years old at the time.

Timeline nerding aside, a good episode. I always wish to hear more from the early H-Street, Shackle Me Not / Hokus Pokus days.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2614 on: February 22, 2024, 02:41:20 AM »
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Ron episode is fucking great, had it on while doing some work, amazing rainy day entertainment.  Awesome stories as expected.  Dude is a livewire, like @radcunt presaged, itís a few hours of turbo mode.  Also the last untimestamped 45 minutes of interviews tend to be pretty interesting, love all the general industry perspectives/commentary that come out once everythingís covered beyond the chronological life portions.
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Love Ron, can't wait to get immediately worn out listening to this!


If you want the abridged version listen to Big Hongryís Mondays and Tuesdays podcast. Same few stories in just over an hour.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2615 on: February 22, 2024, 02:46:54 AM »
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Is it safe to assume itís Appleyard heís referring to getting back on flip?
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Appleyard, Rowley or Bastien are all possibilities...

My money is on Eric Fletcher though.
I put my chips on Apples since hew as wearing a Flip beanie recently in some skate shop best trick thingy.
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2616 on: February 22, 2024, 05:09:03 AM »
Crob really out here trying to make everyone break the 1st Crack Commandment.

Rule numbre uno, never let no one know
How much dough you hold


Havenít listened in awhile but had the Neen episode running as background noise at work. The whole Joe Rogan talk was so awkward. Seeing so many comments about Chrisí infatuation with what people earn or how theyíve made a career off social publicity is so fucking cringe. He needs to seriously chill with those topic conversations before he has nobody willing to speak with him ever. Itís past the point of humorous now.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2617 on: February 22, 2024, 05:44:24 AM »
Crob: OkayÖ so lookÖ RonÖ weíre just talking here.  Couple of skaters just shooting the breeze.  Now I know youíre getting up there in age.  We all are.  But if weíre being realÖ what are those Social Security checks looking like these days?  Not that money is everything!  I just find it fascinating you know.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2618 on: February 22, 2024, 05:48:40 AM »
'Rog, can we pull up Rons checking account...yeah, thats it, no, yeah there, ok can we get it up on the screen...chats going WILD right now, chill out guys, look, this is something that needs to be talked about more ya know.'

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2619 on: February 22, 2024, 10:42:20 AM »
I think that if a guest wasnít comfortable or didnít want to talk about money they should just say so, and if necessary have whatever was said cut from the final edit. The nine club tries to present itself in the most professional way possible with all the gear to boot so that shouldnít be too much of an ask.

That said, I also like that Chris pulls back the curtain on the industry by discussing money and other business dealings because whether you like it or not, the skate industry and pursuit of a career as a skateboarder was/can/could be notoriously shady. Every other day it seems thereís a top skater who gets hurt and is left hanging or stuck with an addiction problem and no financial back up. Just like there are loads of no contracts/paid in gear scenarios to wade through.
Chris loves to tell his personal story of having a lawyer intervene on his adio contract. We only know his side of the story but it serves  as a good warning for future skate entrepreneurs.

True though that discussing business and politics could make a lot of potential guests decline their invitation to join for a talk.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2620 on: February 22, 2024, 07:28:53 PM »
I think that if a guest wasnít comfortable or didnít want to talk about money they should just say so, and if necessary have whatever was said cut from the final edit. The nine club tries to present itself in the most professional way possible with all the gear to boot so that shouldnít be too much of an ask.

That said, I also like that Chris pulls back the curtain on the industry by discussing money and other business dealings because whether you like it or not, the skate industry and pursuit of a career as a skateboarder was/can/could be notoriously shady. Every other day it seems thereís a top skater who gets hurt and is left hanging or stuck with an addiction problem and no financial back up. Just like there are loads of no contracts/paid in gear scenarios to wade through.
Chris loves to tell his personal story of having a lawyer intervene on his adio contract. We only know his side of the story but it serves  as a good warning for future skate entrepreneurs.

True though that discussing business and politics could make a lot of potential guests decline their invitation to join for a talk.

because anyone "in" the industry is lucky to be there and "the only thing skateboarding owes anyone is wheelbite in the rain"

who cares if a company is making money off of dudes by slapping their names on products, those dudes should be honored their name is on anything

and if they get hurt?

fuck em, gotta sell through their stuff from last season

Lol. Eldee is definitely a human. Heís like a raider on horse back whoís kinda scared to do battle. Somehow he closes his eyes and swings his sword wildly and wakes up in a pile of dead orcs.


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2621 on: February 22, 2024, 08:47:24 PM »
I think that if a guest wasnít comfortable or didnít want to talk about money they should just say so, and if necessary have whatever was said cut from the final edit. The nine club tries to present itself in the most professional way possible with all the gear to boot so that shouldnít be too much of an ask.

That said, I also like that Chris pulls back the curtain on the industry by discussing money and other business dealings because whether you like it or not, the skate industry and pursuit of a career as a skateboarder was/can/could be notoriously shady. Every other day it seems thereís a top skater who gets hurt and is left hanging or stuck with an addiction problem and no financial back up. Just like there are loads of no contracts/paid in gear scenarios to wade through.
Chris loves to tell his personal story of having a lawyer intervene on his adio contract. We only know his side of the story but it serves  as a good warning for future skate entrepreneurs.

True though that discussing business and politics could make a lot of potential guests decline their invitation to join for a talk.

You think Chris Roberts is pulling back the curtain on the industry? Dude, that show is pretty much the industry HR department.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2622 on: February 22, 2024, 09:00:01 PM »
Ron Allen episode was awesome!

80's contest talk was hilarious. The story about trying to ollie seven guys in his run had me laughing.

Claiming Natas ollied 19 stairs in the late 80s is insane but I wan't to believe...

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2623 on: February 23, 2024, 09:15:01 AM »
I like the show but they kinda bad conversationalists. Like they are not clear when they speak, kinda, ever.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2624 on: February 24, 2024, 04:00:57 AM »
I wish there was more Ron Allen's in the world.
If he's 50% genuine than he's 111% cool.

He's so right about THERE Skatebloards. They been needing to tour out here. I wanna meet them pretty badly. I would definitely show up with the family to watch and shoot the shit.

I'd like Sci Fi to come out too. I really wanna meet Ryan.

It's one of the few revolutionary things still in skate the industry.

Cool to know that Ron's an Ally to us. He stated it perfectly and didn't hang on the subject so I know it's genuine.
Older than I mofos is usually against us. It's obvious when they're blowing smoke for a virtue stats increase.
Ron seems genuine IDGAF. Let's roll on yo. Your business not mine. Let's skate yo.
That's how straight people should be imo. I don't need pro to get caught in a virtue signaling loop.
Plz stop killing each other
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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2625 on: February 24, 2024, 08:56:30 AM »
I had no idea Ron Allen was involved with ADI. American Dream Inc. was such a dope company but about 5-10 years ahead of their time. Alyasha was good at merging hip-hop and skateboarding without it being contrived or wack. Deluxe pulled the plug cause they were doing double Real and Stereo #s. Same reason why they canned Metropolitan. Canít have that shit outselling Spitfire. Wack.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2626 on: February 24, 2024, 02:53:38 PM »
Iím hoping a guest will eventually turn it around and grill Crob about how much he makes from the show. Also, might as well ask about his earnings from still having his name on a Crail board while the heat is on. Would love to see how comfortable he feels answering those questions in front of a camera.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2627 on: February 24, 2024, 03:09:53 PM »
Iím hoping a guest will eventually turn it around and grill Crob about how much he makes from the show. Also, might as well ask about his earnings from still having his name on a Crail board while the heat is on. Would love to see how comfortable he feels answering those questions in front of a camera.

Would absolutely love that. He's pretty irritating with that shit and it'd be hilarious to see the turntables

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2628 on: February 24, 2024, 04:47:06 PM »
I canít really picture Deluxe pulling the plug on their companies, ADI and Metropolitan, solely because they are doing too well. Has that happened before within the industry?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2629 on: February 24, 2024, 06:05:18 PM »
I canít really picture Deluxe pulling the plug on their companies, ADI and Metropolitan, solely because they are doing too well. Has that happened before within the industry?

It's pretty well known that Deluxe canned Metropolitan back in the day not because of lack of sales, but because people thought Metropolitan was doper than Spitfire and dudes were wanting to skate for Metropolitan instead of Spitfire.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2630 on: February 24, 2024, 09:20:33 PM »
Iím hoping a guest will eventually turn it around and grill Crob about how much he makes from the show. Also, might as well ask about his earnings from still having his name on a Crail board while the heat is on. Would love to see how comfortable he feels answering those questions in front of a camera.
Itís probably been done multiple times and laying all over the cutting room (Rogerís old bedroom at the apartment studio)

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2631 on: February 24, 2024, 11:06:55 PM »
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I canít really picture Deluxe pulling the plug on their companies, ADI and Metropolitan, solely because they are doing too well. Has that happened before within the industry?
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It's pretty well known that Deluxe canned Metropolitan back in the day not because of lack of sales, but because people thought Metropolitan was doper than Spitfire and dudes were wanting to skate for Metropolitan instead of Spitfire.

Hollywood at Tum Yeto too. Allegedly outsold Foundation.

I like the little bits of demons we see at Deluxe. They are nearly untouchable (for plenty of good reason), but I like the cracks in the veneer that come through on occasion. Metropolitan is [still] doper than Spitfire.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2632 on: February 25, 2024, 06:24:50 AM »
The Nine Club taking a week off this week.
A single episode of Mostly Skateboarding isnít going to fill my weekly commutes.

Been trying big hongryís Mondays and Tuesdays but the Gershwin episode is a bit out there from the startÖ

Any suggestions slap pals?
Whenís the next bunt season starting??

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2633 on: February 25, 2024, 07:46:05 AM »
Oh great I love Ronson Lambert. And Sean Malto has a podcast now?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2634 on: February 25, 2024, 08:06:13 AM »
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I canít really picture Deluxe pulling the plug on their companies, ADI and Metropolitan, solely because they are doing too well. Has that happened before within the industry?
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It's pretty well known that Deluxe canned Metropolitan back in the day not because of lack of sales, but because people thought Metropolitan was doper than Spitfire and dudes were wanting to skate for Metropolitan instead of Spitfire.

They also shelved Rase Libre.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2635 on: February 25, 2024, 09:55:47 AM »
Oh great I love Ronson Lambert. And Sean Malto has a podcast now?

together?

Lol. Eldee is definitely a human. Heís like a raider on horse back whoís kinda scared to do battle. Somehow he closes his eyes and swings his sword wildly and wakes up in a pile of dead orcs.


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2636 on: February 26, 2024, 11:41:48 AM »
Roberts really thinks he can nosegrind that Columbus circle ledge. Kinda funny when everyone there was like ummm maybe you should look at it first.


Idk I still feel like they have such weird communication and I still love this show!

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2637 on: February 26, 2024, 12:19:35 PM »
The Nine Club taking a week off this week.
A single episode of Mostly Skateboarding isnít going to fill my weekly commutes.

Been trying big hongryís Mondays and Tuesdays but the Gershwin episode is a bit out there from the startÖ

Any suggestions slap pals?
Whenís the next bunt season starting??

How about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz_J7u3pPwA




At least in two weeks, we should have an episode with an OG Chocolatito on the Nine Club.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2638 on: February 26, 2024, 01:01:29 PM »
Maybe This? He doesn't really talk about night skating though,
From Slap April '93

http://bobshirt.com/Slap93-1.jpg

http://bobshirt.com/Slap93-2.jpg

http://bobshirt.com/Slap93-3.jpg

I know this is a long shot, but Ron Allen had an essay about skating Oakland at night in one of the early issues of Slap. This was back when you could hit all the regular Oakland spots--Tech, Wells Fargo, the museum, Rockridge BART, etc.--and not see another skater. Anyone know if there's a scan of that somewhere?


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2639 on: February 26, 2024, 01:50:19 PM »
At least in two weeks, we should have an episode with an OG Chocolatito on the Nine Club.

That's cool. I hope it's Paulo Diaz. But my money is on Ben Sanchez or Richard Mulder, more likely Mulder.