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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2020, 04:52:08 AM »
A wise friend told me years ago:
Manual - back truck has to be exactly in line with your back testicle
Nose manual - front truck has to be exactly in line with your front testicle
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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2020, 11:56:32 PM »
going faster always helped with manual balance

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2020, 02:17:06 AM »
already many good advices
make your trucks tighter to get some assistance, it helps a lot but once you're better at them with tight trucks go back to your usual truck setting asap
manuals are just something you practice for a really long time to get confortable with them.
Set goals in the distance, and look at that goal. You get better balance it you eye-focus on something in the distance.
Try to keep your shoulders aligned with the board, doesn't really feel natural at first but it will help balancing. It's good too for the next step when you ll learn that lil hip / shoulder swing to more easily get back or front reverts

i guess everyone has his own technique when it comes to foot placement but the most effective for me ( same for nosemanual) is to have your foot not too far on the tail (or nose). In the pocket gives the best results. Seems easier to correct the balance that way, more control if your foot / weight is in that place on your board

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2020, 03:23:16 AM »
A wise friend told me years ago:
Manual - back truck has to be exactly in line with your back testicle
Nose manual - front truck has to be exactly in line with your front testicle

I have a friend with three testicles who's really good at one-footed manual tricks, so I suspect your friend really is onto something there.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2020, 06:16:03 PM »
Read the comments above and like someone said you need to have a goal. Go to a parking lot and manual one parking space(from line to line) then try to get 2 parking spaces and do that for a couple hours everyday for a couple years. Then never change your setup. And you can be that guy that manuals around the whole skatepark and pretend itís a trick.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2020, 09:53:02 AM »
Flat kicks and trucks with a shorter wheelbase make my manuals easier.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2020, 11:53:37 AM »
i made a make shift balance board out of a 2 liter bottle and an old deck and practiced balancing closer to the nose when i was learning nose manuals. Did this for like 3 nights in a row and then the next time i skated i could nose manual. Also -- engage your core and keep it tight from the pop to the land in manual and throughout the manual.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2020, 01:19:24 PM »
going faster always helped with manual balance

This for sure.

Being relaxed since being tense only makes it more difficult.

Also, when learning, ollieing on to something relatively small makes shit easier... If you are straining to Ollie on top the obstacle it is going to be insanely difficult to land in a comfortable position.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2020, 10:18:56 AM »
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Donít think about it like you are balancing on two wheels. 

Think of it like youíre riding around on three wheels but you are trying to pull one close and whisper ďIím not wearing any pantiesĒ into its ear.
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Sound advice, right there.^^^
Gave it a try & bang! Mannies on lock now. Thanks.
I have always had success with this method, and found as I hold the manual that whisper slowly becomes a shout. So basically the louder you shout it the longer the manual will be.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2020, 03:44:59 PM »
wheels on the ground are heavily pinched heel side, with your other foot pinch the toe side a little so that you don't turn even though your heavily pinched heelside.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2020, 10:00:19 PM »
I like this thread. My manny game has always sucked but I'm living in low impact town these days so I've been working on them this year. Core strength is key. I started doing sit ups just to get better at them and that's helped. Looseish trucks are key for me so you can make adjustments as you roll. Also, no one ever seems to talk about this but I find I have to roll into it a bit. In my head I call it a zhuzh but I shift my weight forward but on my back foot when I get into them and that's been working. Also I tend to lean toe side so it's weird to hear that's bad for other people. I try to keep my weight centered but when I start to lose them I can lean toe side and keep it going a little longer.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2020, 11:01:32 PM »
A really mellow deck with short wb trucks like Indy or Ace's do really help an insane amount.
So much more forgiving. Also, dont land with stiff knee's/legs, nor should you practise balance with stiff knee's.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2020, 12:45:57 AM »
I like this thread. My manny game has always sucked but I'm living in low impact town these days so I've been working on them this year. Core strength is key. I started doing sit ups just to get better at them and that's helped. Looseish trucks are key for me so you can make adjustments as you roll. Also, no one ever seems to talk about this but I find I have to roll into it a bit. In my head I call it a zhuzh but I shift my weight forward but on my back foot when I get into them and that's been working. Also I tend to lean toe side so it's weird to hear that's bad for other people. I try to keep my weight centered but when I start to lose them I can lean toe side and keep it going a little longer.

I don't always go heel side actually , usually only for longer manuals but with short ones and tricks out i actually stay more toeside.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2020, 01:43:40 AM »
Something that works quite well for me is to make sure that my head is dead ass lined up with the back bolts, and I look down directly at them to help me keep in mind that my core needs to be over those bolts... this obviously isn't super practical for seeing what's ahead of you, but it did help me get them sustained for longer.

Another thing that helped a bit was bringing my front foot down toward the middle of the board a bit more, as I used to do them with it up on or past the front bolts, so any adjustment you do will be exaggerated, with the foot brought back i find i have a bit more fine tuning and control, also way easier to progress to doing a trick out of it.

Arms out to move around and balance where needed. I skate low trucks, small wheels and mellow kicktails, and it feels like quite a stable manual platform when i get into them. It's given me enough confidence to be able to nollie shuv into one, and BS shuv out of one (rarely in the same combo!).

I can pretty consistently manual about 12-15ft now after putting a bit of time into them.

My nose manuals, however... nah. Lucky if i can get 3ft! really suck at them.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2020, 08:48:40 PM »
I learned fs 5-0s before manuals and fs nosegrinds before nose manuals. Felt like that give me an edge. Also, I never felt as frustrated when I scraped when grinding. Feeling positive makes things come easier.
To learn the balance, I never focused on body/foot placement. Granted I don't have any real body mass and I'm short so that might have just given me an edge. I just went at a comfortable speed down a smooth sidewalk and tried to manual/nose manual as many blocks as possible. You'll learn the balance over time as you constantly one-up yourself.

The body/foot placement really comes into play when you try to learn flip ins/outs. That testicle rule above is key for the flip manuals.

Also, when it comes to nose manuals. Learn G-turns or swerving them. Maybe this only works for me, but when I swerve a nose manual, it's easier to balance.
Here's a clip of me doing one to show you what I mean:
https://www.facebook.com/1759751016/videos/pcb.10207618007485810/10207618002365682/

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2020, 12:37:41 PM »
going faster helps

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2020, 12:38:59 PM »
Non-setup wise, core strength (abs) will help you keep your manual going. Get those crunches in and you'll notice yourself being able to balance better.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2020, 01:09:42 PM »
Anyone know the secret for Ollie to nose manual? I can do nose manuals pretty decent on flat and my Ollie to manuals are good. I can also do a bunch of nose slide variations but Ollie to nose manual feels so alien
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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2020, 04:25:31 AM »
Anyone know the secret for Ollie to nose manual? I can do nose manuals pretty decent on flat and my Ollie to manuals are good. I can also do a bunch of nose slide variations but Ollie to nose manual feels so alien

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practice until you find the sweet spot for your front foot when landing

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2020, 09:22:11 AM »
Trick to manuals: Ask the guy at the skatepark that only manuals around the entire perimeter of the park without scraping. Every skatepark has that guy.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2020, 07:55:52 PM »
remember to breathe.
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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2020, 08:49:25 PM »
Anyone know the secret for Ollie to nose manual? I can do nose manuals pretty decent on flat and my Ollie to manuals are good. I can also do a bunch of nose slide variations but Ollie to nose manual feels so alien

Only ollie as high as needed, never aim to pop super high unnecessarily if that makes sense..

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2020, 10:52:03 AM »
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Anyone know the secret for Ollie to nose manual? I can do nose manuals pretty decent on flat and my Ollie to manuals are good. I can also do a bunch of nose slide variations but Ollie to nose manual feels so alien
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Only ollie as high as needed, never aim to pop super high unnecessarily if that makes sense..
This makes sense and Iíve noticed people not popping as high as they could for a regular manual into a nose manual. Thereís always that fear of leaning too far on the nose and eating it though.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2020, 03:15:16 PM »
So you know how you can feel the difference of your tail truck and your nose truck? Well, focus even further and try to notice the individual balls in your bearings. Paying attention to how your bearings feel and that will let you know if you should lean back or forward to stay in manual.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2020, 05:40:01 PM »
Stay loose and manual everything, everywhere. Also keep your trucks loose. Tight trucks are a crutch at best, and it won't teach you to manual properly. I'd argue that manuals are just as much about lateral balance as it is about keeping your vertical balance.

I turn, spin, slalom, ollie, kickturn, powerslide, anything I can think of while manualing, and it really helps me with being able to hold them when doing regular tricks.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2020, 04:12:25 AM »
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Anyone know the secret for Ollie to nose manual? I can do nose manuals pretty decent on flat and my Ollie to manuals are good. I can also do a bunch of nose slide variations but Ollie to nose manual feels so alien
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Only ollie as high as needed, never aim to pop super high unnecessarily if that makes sense..
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This makes sense and Iíve noticed people not popping as high as they could for a regular manual into a nose manual. Thereís always that fear of leaning too far on the nose and eating it though.

You kinda ďrun outĒ of the slam at the start. Just start on a stock pad and youíll be sweet.

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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2020, 10:45:24 AM »
Manuals is all about weight distribution. Learn how to distribute your weight.  ;) :) 8)
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Re: Whats the trick to manuals
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2020, 06:29:31 AM »
what the hell is the trick to switch nosemanuals? I can nosemanual and switch manual fine, and can do a switch nosemanny if I have to but they never get any easier. 4 out of 5 I'll just put my back truck down immediately and the other one I'll just immediately put my nose down and eat shit. Any tips on ollieing into them more consistently? I think I don't commit as I slam on them so often