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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #480 on: February 20, 2021, 09:18:35 AM »
Been working on fakie bigflips for the last couple days, landed my first one today.

I've had fakie BS bigspins and kickflips for a while, and had been meaning to try these... actually came a bit easier than I expected.

Deffo need to clean them up but I'm pretty stoked...I'm hoping it helps to unlock fakie tres, but my body keeps wanting to go with the rotation on those.

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #481 on: February 20, 2021, 09:48:26 AM »
Been working on fakie bigflips for the last couple days, landed my first one today.

I've had fakie BS bigspins and kickflips for a while, and had been meaning to try these... actually came a bit easier than I expected.

Deffo need to clean them up but I'm pretty stoked...I'm hoping it helps to unlock fakie tres, but my body keeps wanting to go with the rotation on those.

Fakie big flip is a fun one, I neglected it for a while before realizing how cool that trick could actually feel (partly thanks to how PJ would make them look), these days I find myself doing them more. The way they work sort of feels like you're halfcabbing into a varial flip, whereas fakie 360 flip feels a lot more like a fakie 360 shove it with an extra flick, maybe thinking of them as such instead of as fakie big flip with no body turn will help you stay in control. Forming the flip I guess is sort of the same but the upper body action feels completely different (in fact for an ideal fakie 360 flip, before popping you're literally facing backwards).

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #482 on: February 20, 2021, 10:21:11 AM »
Food for thought, I need to get fakie 3 shuvs down as well which would help for the fakie tres.

 I can do nollie 3 shuvs no bother at all so need to try and mirror that technique in my head.

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #483 on: February 20, 2021, 10:42:38 AM »
Frontside noseslides (to fakie). Rolled away from a few but barely slid...

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #484 on: February 20, 2021, 10:51:03 AM »
Food for thought, I need to get fakie 3 shuvs down as well which would help for the fakie tres.

 I can do nollie 3 shuvs no bother at all so need to try and mirror that technique in my head.

I'm the same with the nollie 360 shoves going that way because they were one of my very first tricks as a kid and to this day I love throwing them around, if you have those down honestly I'd say try nollie 360 flips sometime as from then on, those really aren't out of reach. I learned them many years before I could even fathom forming a straight nollie flip, so really those tricks in fakie or nollie have a lot in common and you might be surprised. In those stances the 360 flip version really is the exact same thing as the casual 360 shove except you pop it all the while jumping a certain way so that your other foot interferes and then the flip just sort of happens by itself if your pressure points were correct. The big flip counterparts take more effort in comparison I would say. For your fakie 360 flips I'd really recommend trying a few while literally facing your tail, to block your temptation to turn your body what would now feel like the 'wrong' way. If that kills the 360 for you (which it might), you can compensate by focusing on adjusting the scoop, or how you distribute your weight over the board before you pop.

I think it was in his Chromeball interview where Daewon said he did nollie 360 flips super early before opposite footed skating was really a thing and at the time he wouldn't even think of the trick in those terms, it was 'just this trick where the board flopped around' (not verbatim). To this day I actually find that to be a good approach, so that you don't overthink how hard the trick sounds like it's supposed to be, when in reality the motion for it is quite simple. (Overthinking difficulty is probably the main mental block to progression, at least in skating)

Also with a good nollie 360 shove you might be closer than you think to nollie (front foot) impossibles and to nollie big spins with an extra shove (those are the exact same thing as the nollie 360 shove but you pivot off the nose while doing it, it's not the classiest trick but it's a fun underrated one).
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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #485 on: February 20, 2021, 11:56:45 AM »
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Nollie flips, have no trouble flipping them but can't seem to jump over it to catch them. Been meaning to try doing one out of a quarter and seeing if that helps.

Other than that trying to build up the confidence to commit to a nollie front shuv out of a bs nosepick on transition
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Try to fully flick and jump properly and land upside down, its better than fully flipping and not jumping over it. Switch flips came easier for me, maybe they will for you too.

This probably won't work for most people, but I actually landed a few nollie frontside flips before nollie flips, felt like the turn gave me more room to flick and helped me work up to flicking a straight nollie flip properly. Obviously nollie flips are way easier now but I think it helped a bit.

Yeah, I managed to land on the board upside down a few times since posting that before rolling my ankle on one. I'll have to give the nollie frontside idea a go though, thanks!

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #486 on: February 20, 2021, 12:18:47 PM »
Just caught that discussion but honestly trying to learn nollie flips out of a quarter sounds crazy to me (but it might work for you, everyone is different, who knows), I feel like transition throws off all the physics of that trick. Switch flips on a bank might be a good idea though, if anything to transition in between flatground switch flip to flatground nollie flip or the other way around depending on which one you learn first.

Frontside nollie flip thing is funny because it used to be true for me too but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it personally (but it's still a possibility), it's quite easy to mob the fuck out of those first frontside nollie flips and get used to bad technique even for straight nollie flips in the end. Funnily enough the 180 ones now feel a lot harder to me too, but that's because I actually try to pop and form them right which I couldn't do back then (and is also why I stopped doing that trick, at least my mobbed ones felt like shit). For nollie flips the key is to use the forward momentum to push ahead of you on the pop (off the big toe) and jump what feels like backwards (towards the tail) all the while really bringing the board with you for the flip, really like a straight nollie but with insistence on your toes and then at the peak you flick out, shoulders aligned the whole time. I say it all the time but it's also a lot easier to learn switch flips by pretending you're in your regular stance and it's your normal every day kickflip that you're trying to fix, forget you're doing anything different and it will kill the whole mental block of a myth around the trick. Sorry to hear about your ankle, be well soon.

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #487 on: February 21, 2021, 07:28:55 PM »
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Ive broken 3 decks trying to kickflip off stuff. Everytime i get it my back foot lands on the tail and the board either cracks or snaps.

How do i get my back foot further forward? Or avoid the deck from getting ahead of me?

I need some help because this is getting expensive!

Edit: or as my mate suggested, i need a board with bigger WB? Current board is 14.25 and Iím 6í3Ē
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I'm 6'4 and skate 14.25 I don't think that's your issue. What's your skill level like in general? If you can land bolts on flatground kickflips you are most likely capable of doing it. You could be flicking your board ahead of you, or leaning back slightly too much. If you land rigid also that's going to be more force than if you bend with the landing.

ok...so update...I managed to do a couple last week landed bolts...took your advice, and think I was leaning back a bit. I forced myself to stay over the board when getting close to the ledge and it helped keep everything under my feet. Also...WB got nothing to do with it...I did it on my Chico deck which is 14 WB, so obviously not WB dependent.

next I gotta try and do shuvs off stuff...and pop higher on kickflips

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #488 on: February 22, 2021, 04:24:20 AM »
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Ive broken 3 decks trying to kickflip off stuff. Everytime i get it my back foot lands on the tail and the board either cracks or snaps.

How do i get my back foot further forward? Or avoid the deck from getting ahead of me?

I need some help because this is getting expensive!

Edit: or as my mate suggested, i need a board with bigger WB? Current board is 14.25 and Iím 6í3Ē
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I'm 6'4 and skate 14.25 I don't think that's your issue. What's your skill level like in general? If you can land bolts on flatground kickflips you are most likely capable of doing it. You could be flicking your board ahead of you, or leaning back slightly too much. If you land rigid also that's going to be more force than if you bend with the landing.
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ok...so update...I managed to do a couple last week landed bolts...took your advice, and think I was leaning back a bit. I forced myself to stay over the board when getting close to the ledge and it helped keep everything under my feet. Also...WB got nothing to do with it...I did it on my Chico deck which is 14 WB, so obviously not WB dependent.

next I gotta try and do shuvs off stuff...and pop higher on kickflips

Hell yeah! I rarely skate off of stuff so I respect you going for it. Happy to hear you got them

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #489 on: February 22, 2021, 04:49:22 AM »
I really want to get tailslides, mine are fucking garbage at best.

Also I watched Justin Brockís since day one part and realized I want frontside bigspins. Got close on a few, but I want them popped proper.

I know these are simple tasks, but Iím a simple man.
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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #490 on: February 22, 2021, 10:33:49 AM »
I really want to get tailslides, mine are fucking garbage at best.

Also I watched Justin Brockís since day one part and realized I want frontside bigspins. Got close on a few, but I want them popped proper.

I know these are simple tasks, but Iím a simple man.

This trick never makes any sense for me. Although fs shuvs are probably my safest trick. Anyone has some tips how to spin the board and keep it under me?

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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #491 on: February 22, 2021, 10:45:09 AM »
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I really want to get tailslides, mine are fucking garbage at best.

Also I watched Justin Brockís since day one part and realized I want frontside bigspins. Got close on a few, but I want them popped proper.

I know these are simple tasks, but Iím a simple man.
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This trick never makes any sense for me. Although fs shuvs are probably my safest trick. Anyone has some tips how to spin the board and keep it under me?

I can do these on flat but not switch ones, which is apparently weird (never cared to learn switch ones though I think its pretty whatever). I put my back foot in the pocket in a duck foot position (so I'm regular and if I'm standing on my board shoulders parallel to board, my right foot is kinda pointing in the 1 or 2 oclock position.

Try to keep your trucks level, not leaning heel or toe side, and give it an aggressive pop in the front shuv direction.

Try to imagine the pop making the board spin really quickly in your head if that makes sense. You know how if you try to pop a big pop shuvit you kinda imagine/expect the board to spin slowly and come up kinda high. Whereas if you pop a nice back bigspin or 3shuv(if anyone still does those lol) you naturally pre-visualize the board spinning a lot quicker and closer to the ground. If the board spins slow like a nice front shuv it wont work, it has to be zippy like a quick back bigspin. This requires a lot of experimentation with foot positioning, weight distribution and how you pop/scoop.
 
In terms of weight distribution, don't lean too far back, have some weight over your front foot. I don't really wind my shoulders, just have them facing forward, pop/scoop and jump like a motherfucker, though some people may do it differently idk.
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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #492 on: February 23, 2021, 02:10:21 PM »
about 30 minutes ago I learned how to roll my ankle on a backside flip off a bump.🤦🏼‍♂️😅
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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #493 on: February 23, 2021, 02:27:11 PM »
Fakie 5050 switch shuv.

Day before yesterday I was popping out of them enough but the park was snowy. Also there was a real trick being filmed at the time.

Nollie inward heel nose manny.

I just scored a tripod and I haven't posted a clip in a while. If I find a filmer I'll do one in a line.
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Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Reply #494 on: February 23, 2021, 02:50:03 PM »
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I really want to get tailslides, mine are fucking garbage at best.

Also I watched Justin Brockís since day one part and realized I want frontside bigspins. Got close on a few, but I want them popped proper.

I know these are simple tasks, but Iím a simple man.
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This trick never makes any sense for me. Although fs shuvs are probably my safest trick. Anyone has some tips how to spin the board and keep it under me?

I have tip for this.
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Sw fr big is my go to turn around trick.

The secret bro controling this is the back foot and how you set up and kick it.

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Ok so I line up my front foot heel will the edge of the board




Back foot I dig my heel into it inside the wb on flat because I don't gotta pop it high.

 

The heel foxing on my shoe is like a track for the edge of my board. I kick it forward to my other foot.

Almost like I'm going to do a leprechaun heel clicking dance. But I trap the board beyond 270 put it down.

If you lift your heel an don't wind up your body you can do a kiwi flip like this.




I like switch ones. If you're getting on to something go more to the tip of the tail and lift your front foot higher.

But the board is going to go away from you if you don't kick it were you want it to go. The other foot or at a ledge or whatever.

Hope this helps.

The heel dug in method feels like throwing a ball to a dog with one of those cup sticks vs no heel feels like regular throwing if that makes any sense?

Leverage for your feets is increase inside the WB.
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