Why do you still ride indys?

[Boog]

No clue I want to try Ventures or Thunders. They seem to be more responsive where on Indy's I feel like I'm turning when I go to pop every trick. How would you guys compare Thunders to Ventures?

Venture has a more surfy stable turn where as thunder turn sharp and are squirrely. I put bones mediums in my ventures coming from independent and my skatboarding improved drastically. It's worth a try.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

Well, I'm riding mine because they still have a lot of life left and it would be a waste to stop skating them.
I also love how they feel. Indy Forged is probably the best feeling truck I had till now and I had all the major brands over the years. Also the most reliable, I dont think I have any complains about my Indys, I keep them stock and they just feel right.
I also don't think that its like "you ride Indys, you're racist". I think most of of the people weren't even aware about the logo having any connection with racist shit. I always thought it looked like some Orange County chopper shit (well, now thinking that also looks kind sketchy). Well... I'll probably keep riding them for a bit. I do plan to get some Aces next, which I wasn't to lucky with the quality in the past but hopefully I get a good batch now.

[Glurmpz]

I stopped riding Indy right around 2000. They were always bad for shifting axels and breaking kingpins, but around 2000 they had a huge issue with lots of brand new trucks bending on the axel. I was working at a shop and we had a landslide of returns. My friend was a Thunder guy and showed me his new ones, they seemed nicer than Indy, so I switched and never looked back.

[Paco Supreme]

I’ve got two sets to burn through, that’s why.

And if you’re worried about that shitty cross logo a few slides butt up against a shitty ledge and it’s gone

[cucktard]

I stopped riding Indy right around 2000. They were always bad for shifting axels and breaking kingpins, but around 2000 they had a huge issue with lots of brand new trucks bending on the axel. I was working at a shop and we had a landslide of returns. My friend was a Thunder guy and showed me his new ones, they seemed nicer than Indy, so I switched and never looked back.

I heard about this too, I also heard they tried sneaking manufacturing to China but were still stamping USA on them.

Any truth to this?

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I stopped riding Indy right around 2000. They were always bad for shifting axels and breaking kingpins, but around 2000 they had a huge issue with lots of brand new trucks bending on the axel. I was working at a shop and we had a landslide of returns. My friend was a Thunder guy and showed me his new ones, they seemed nicer than Indy, so I switched and never looked back.

I heard about this too, I also heard they tried sneaking manufacturing to China but were still stamping USA on them.

Any truth to this?

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Dunno about the sneak move to China, but I remember getting some of those indys. I thought it was a little later 2001/2, but my memory is disturbingly bad. Instant axle slip, and then one of the axles bent so bad the wheel was at a 45. 

Indys look nice. I don’t know if that is because I’ve always liked to look at trucks and I’ve seen them in tons of pictures over my life, or if I just truly like the look.

 The cross is so dumb. The cover up story about the pope is also stupid (shoutout to Chavo who comes through with the history). You gotta get to work doing slides, real quick, get that thing off of there.

Hefe said something along the lines of how bro culture killed the brand from an aesthetic point of view, for him. Fucking so true. I’ve not spent a lot of time in California, but did go through pacific beach and it was the uniform for dudes in lifted trucks and flipped brims.

I get that there seems to be some mimicry of 1% mc stuff going on with the symbolism. There is something (if you are cis white hetero male) to that old look of outlaw that is romantic, if you only give the most cursory of glances and refuse to look at the rape/racist parts. The appropriation of nazi/(the enemy’s) symbols by returning soldiers in bike to scare off the boring Americans, and then surfers do it, somehow we as skaters get into it, something something. Maybe I’m all wrong here. Probably.

Be cooler if they ditched the cross. Be cooler if they hadn’t been weird to dlx/ermico. Be cooler if they **did not** have the most jock vibe to their shit. Be cooler if they still made something in North America.

Their donation is cool.

[sketchyrider]

I get that there seems to be some mimicry of 1% mc stuff going on with the symbolism. There is something (if you are cis white hetero male) to that old look of outlaw that is romantic, if you only give the most cursory of glances and refuse to look at the rape/racist parts. The appropriation of nazi/(the enemy’s) symbols by returning soldiers in bike to scare off the boring Americans, and then surfers do it, somehow we as skaters get into it, something something. Maybe I’m all wrong here. Probably.

Be cooler if they ditched the cross. Be cooler if they hadn’t been weird to dlx/ermico. Be cooler if they **did not** have the most jock vibe to their shit. Be cooler if they still made something in North America.

Their donation is cool.

i think this sums it up pretty well, i remember watching old surf movies with greg noll and other guys putting swastikas on their car and what not, it was some sarcastic way of being offensive, but its aged horribly. its hard to imagine the iron cross actually being inspired by some catholic imagery.

ill keep riding the trucks but id back a logo change for sure.

[passtheish]

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[JANUS]

Shalom

[Mr. Kamikazi]

I don't.

[Uncle Poseur]

Isn’t Fausto Vitello from Argentina? Didn’t learn English til he picked it up watching the giants.

Yes, Fausto is from Argentina. Yes, the trucks are made in China.

So, if they're actually racists, then they really suck at it.

[gaunting]

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this is amazing....shalom!

[moonordie]

Just looked into switching to Thuders, can anyone make the sizing easier for me? What size Thunder for 8.06 & 8.25 Decks? Also, what's the best Thunder truck from people who have been skating them or went from Indy to Thunder?

148

[Mr. Kamikazi]

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Just looked into switching to Thuders, can anyone make the sizing easier for me? What size Thunder for 8.06 & 8.25 Decks? Also, what's the best Thunder truck from people who have been skating them or went from Indy to Thunder?

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148

148's are great. Went up from the 147's and I am pleased.

[cjt]

Got some 9" krux on the way, and I want to get some venture 6.1 if I can find them in stock! I have tried Ace on a friends board and I don't think they're for me.

On the topic of throwing out the iron cross and moving on from similar imagery:

[Quasi]

Because  they  feel  good to ride i dont care about the logo

[matty_c]

Tape over the logo is one way to do it
Noseslides will get you there too

[goingapelikenigo]

I’m gonna ride my indy’s until they break but I’m really excited about trying some ventures next.

Tape over the logo is one way to do it
Noseslides will get you there too

[Hyliannightmare]

 Because I'm poor. Whatever trucks are on the used board I buy on marketplace or craigslist get reused until they're done. 9 times outta 10 it's indys

[John Kreese]

I ride mine because I like they way they turn, aesthetically they look nice, and they grind good. Those three things matter. I do not find their logo to be racist in any manner. They have always sponsored multiethnic skaters since day one. If you really want to look for something bad, you'll find a way to find it. Don't like the logo? Don't ride them. If you really want to make a fucking difference in this witch hunt world, go vote.

[adriankohatsu]

The last pair of trucks i recently used have been indy's and has been great. During my hole life i have been using thunder trucks (even Silver-dumb decision-) but i feel indy's way more centered which makes me confortable. Nonetheless i always heard to many venture guys arguing why is the best truck which makes me consider it for the following time i switch trucks.

[lk130]

I know what size I ride & don't have to mess w.them

[DarkPools]

I ride mine because I like they way they turn, aesthetically they look nice, and they grind good. Those three things matter. I do not find their logo to be racist in any manner. They have always sponsored multiethnic skaters since day one. If you really want to look for something bad, you'll find a way to find it. Don't like the logo? Don't ride them. If you really want to make a fucking difference in this witch hunt world, go vote.

Same

[JANUS]

Once more, it’s not the logo that bothers me. Primarily, I’d like to buy shit that’s made closer to me. Secondly, I can’t get over the irony of supporting a brand whose image is based on American outlaw culture, when the products are (probably) made using sweatshop labor in an authoritarian state.

[Xen]

http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2020/07/14/8-artists-reimagine-independent-logo/?fbclid=IwAR0EWXnK6VM0S7tMQUXMNNsk7VXq0iK3e2as-tIVX07k_WcmZgPllXWA_EM

[layzieyez]

Not yet axle.

[Telly]

Because I'm poor. Whatever trucks are on the used board I buy on marketplace or craigslist get reused until they're done. 9 times outta 10 it's indys

I’ve found this to be true and a great way to get trucks.  If you care/worry backing the company then no worries because you didn’t. 
Quick push, focus the tail of whatever Santa Cruz board it is and boom, new to me indys.
And i bought a pair on that sale on Sunday because I don’t believe the company is inherently racist and the price was right on.   Nor do I found the logo offensive.  Again, I have never found it appealing and have never bought or worn anything independent. 
I wouldn’t classify myself as poor but I’m for sure frugal. 

[Brad Breath]

I’ve ridden Independent trucks for 31 years.  No issues other than a broken kingpin here and there.  But that happens. 

[Dwyck]

i ride my skateboard to ride it not to please Kyle Beachy

[rocklobster]

Venture for the win. Put some bones bushings in them and they turn and feel perfect. Better pinch and return to center.

I'm sold, have a spare pair of Bones Medium that I'm tossing into my 5.6 V-Hollow.