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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
Dude its not policing speech its not permitting certain words...its not like the collective of SLAP is a intellectual forum analyzing Mark Twain
as an old black dude I see no reason for its use in skateboard forum...even when I talk to other black people about it they often site it being a term of positivity, but in contrast most time its used is to put someone down
and being a skater from the mid 90s we used gay slurs immaturely, by the time i graduate high school i stopped using it...I think websites like people should mature...unless your 4chan
Edit: if you go to popular black forum like Boxden when you type in the nword you get *****
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