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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2020, 07:38:38 AM »
Flo Marfaing
Alex Carolino

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While everybody was having their eyes on the US-american piss drunx skinny boys these guys put European tech skating on the map.
These boys proved that you didn't have to go to America to have a huge impact on skateboarding.
The video is a cornerstone of the emancipation of European skateboarding and Flo and Alex are having the best parts.

https://www.freeskatemag.com/2019/03/25/lordz-wheels-1998-2006/

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2020, 07:43:42 AM »


This whole video.


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2020, 07:52:18 AM »
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Was gonna un-ironically post this. It is kinda important to note terrible parts as they shape what not to do or a direction to avoid.

Like Sheckler in True. He hyped a trick and didn’t commit, kinda out shined his own part.
Let's throw in Steve Berra's part in Skate More and the entirety of Pretty Sweet.

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Tom Knox in Vase - speaking as an outsider, I feel like there was a real "before" and "after" in UK skateboarding after Tom Knox and Jacob Harris came on the scene. This part (and his Eleventh Hour part before) pushed UK skateboarding up a notch.
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By 'pushed up a notch', do you mean given more exposure in the US?
More exposure, but also a seemingly higher skill level (and I say this as a fan).
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2020, 08:18:14 AM »
Going to give a limited scope response using TWS parts. I’m in my 30s and grew up in a rural area where skate videos could be harder to find. Transworld always came thru, and they were definitely culturally formative in a ton of different ways.

The Reason - Stevie Williams
Modus Operandi - Mike Carroll
Sight Unseen - Cardiel
Feedback - Dill & AVE
Sixth Sense - Kalis
Free your Mind - Dan Drehobl
A Time To Shine - Dylan

Honestly this list could just keep going, and the montages alone are worth talking about. You could go further and start listing the digital parts Transworld started putting out (Lucas & Hjalte come to mind)...
TWS was definitely the herb in the scene, but they sure as shit made some great videos that shaped skate culture.
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2020, 08:42:26 AM »
Yea fugg me dude, totally stevie in the reason. That whole bitch was, mostly, filmed at love. One spot parts are fuckin sick. Thanks for the reminder!
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2020, 08:57:48 AM »
Ricky Oyola- EE3
Pat Duffy- Questionable
Bobby Puleo- Infamous
Jim Greco- Baker 2G
Josh Kalis- Photosynthesis
 
 
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2020, 09:08:37 AM »
You love to hate him, but Bobby Puleo's part in Static II was the blueprint for prototypical cellar door skating, and that style of skating popped off hard in the years following.

Static 2 in general had a huge cultural impact great than 1, 3 or 4. It introduce a lot of the less mainstream names (Welsh, Puleo, Oyola, Shier, the list goes on) to the general skateboarding audience that missed out on them after getting into skateboarding watching X-Games, CKY, or whatever was available on Limewire or IRC at the time. The subtitle "The Invisibles" is a fitting name.

Culturally important is different from nostalgic and great skate videos do not alter the landscape of skateboarding I would say Fully Flared is ranks up there in cultural significance as it revived the career of Guy Mariano, made multi-song parts the norm, made ledge dancing fashionable again, first 90 minute skate video and was the swansong of the OG Crailtap era (Carroll, Howard, Koston). That was Crailtap at it's peak.
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2020, 10:50:39 AM »
Hensley in Not the New H-Street Video

Vallely in Public Domain

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2020, 10:55:35 AM »
baker 2g was a big influence on skate scenes everywhere. it felt like over night all the shops switched up inventory to cater to that LA cool rocker guy look (i.e. greco clones)

I think the lofi krooked vids really helped step away from the krew jeans era.

Also John Motta Happy Medium was a nice new flavor while things were bland.


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2020, 11:18:48 AM »
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2020, 12:36:04 PM »
Jerry's bag of suck part was pretty fucking unreal, and I haven't watched it recently, but I bet it holds up in 2020.

I completely agree about Koston's part in Menikmati. Dude was way ahead of his time in that part. However, I loved his Chomp on this Part. Casually killing it. Grinds to manuals. Parking lot manual marathon. Chompin hubbas, and flickin down double sets. No complys in a time they weren't that cool. It was like a precursor to "instagram" parts.

Mccrank's part in Menikmati had a pretty big influence on me too.

PJ's whl. Dude, that was like coming across some random instagram profile where the guy kills it more than most pros and you've never heard of him. That was unreal. I remember buying even more Accels after seeing his part.

Also, Sus has a pretty good point. Videos as a whole typically had more impact than just one part. However, most of the parts that have been stated are typically the best parts of those vids.
Jerry's Bag of Suck is one of my favorite parts of all time. Forgot who it was on Enjoi (think it was Louie), who was like that part made us a legitimate company (an exaggeration, but a great comment).

I agree with the whole video part, especially when it comes to Menikmati. I felt Koston captured that point the best, but Arto, McCrank, and Koston changed what people thought was possible on rails, similar to how Duffy and Jamie Thomas took it bigger previously, Arto, McCrank and Koston took it tech on large rails. While very few think of Koston as a defining rail skater, in many ways, he redefined what people thought was possible on rails between Menikmati, Chocolate Tour, and Yeah Right.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2020, 01:58:53 PM »
I feel like I can't speak for "the culture" exactly but where I grew up 411 videos, especially prob starting from number 2, were far more influential than any board company releases at the time.  The "tutorials" were fucking dogshit but there was a lot of quality footage and a lot of "skate culture" in it before I saw that in other videos.  Carroll and them really did a nice job with nurturing that approach as they went along.  For me nothing was influential like Mullen bits but as far as the culture where I was it was all those magazine comps, and even older shit, like we would watch Animal Chin every. fucking. day.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2020, 04:13:22 PM »

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2020, 04:48:10 PM »
not a video part but I'm pretty sure we somewhat owe the last decade of skating to this:




and the fact Sage and Sean wore converse + dickies religiously throughout Cherry did more for the brands in skating than pretty much any other pro before that. - Did dickies have a full skate team before that trend? 'yOunG cReatIVes' in design studios everywhere still rep high water dickies and converse to this day mostly due to that look they brought back in 2014. (in the uk dickies aren't/weren't as known/available as u.s.)


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2020, 05:26:08 PM »
i would add

cheese and crackers . more love for minis afterwards.

bob burnquists mega ramp part seemed to have ended the mega ramp parts (bob&way).

mullen must have had some shockers.

berra def. had a shocker part. in the bad way.

salabanzi in sorry.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2020, 05:46:06 PM »
Anything Lord Kadow puts out.
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2020, 05:55:57 PM »
heres my chronological crash course of important video parts post Video Days (some definite holes and it gets hazy after 2010). Interested in skating? Start here:


1991
Gonz - Video Days
Jason Lee - Video Days
Sean Sheffey - A Soldiers Story

1992
Mike Carroll - Questionable
Pat Duffy - Questionable

1994
Ethan Fowler - A Visual Sound

1995
Jeremy Wray - Second Hand Smoke

1996
Jamie Thomas - Welcome to Hell
Ricky Oyola - Eastern Exposure 3
Guy Mariano - Mouse
Lavar McBride - Trilogy
Gino Iannucci - Trilogy

1998
Smolik - Fulfill the Dream

2000
Jim Greco - Baker 2g
Brian Wenning - Photosynthesis

2001
Heath Kirchart - Sight Unseen
Louie Barletta - Man Down!

2002
Arto - Sorry
PJ Ladd - WHL

2003
Koston - Yeah Right!
Lucas Puig - Bon Appetit
Reynolds - This is Skateboarding
Anthony Pappalardo - Mosaic
Stevie Williams - The DC Video

2004
Bobby Puleo - Static II
Stefan Janoski - Subtleties

2005
Chris Cole - New Blood
Nick Jensen - Lost and Found
Antwuan Dixon - Baker 3
Daewon Song - Skate More

2006
Jerry Hsu - Bag of Suck
Nick Trapasso - Suffer the Joy
Wade Desarmo - Its Official

2007
Mike Mo - Fully Flared
Stefan Janoski - Inhabitants
John Motta - PVWHL
Justin Brock - Southern Comfort

2010
Dylan Reider - Dylan.
Jake Johnson - Mind Field
Reynolds - Stay Gold
Brian Herman - Stay Gold (Table section)
Cory Kennedy - Beware of Sasquatch

2011
Dennis Businetz - Since Day One

2012
Mark Suciu - Cross Continental

2015
Tom Knox - Vase

2016
Dane Brady - I like it here inside my mind

2017
Max Palmer - Call me 917

2018
Tyshawn Jones - Blessed

2019
Mark Suciu - Verso
Milton Martinez - Demolicion!



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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2020, 06:01:46 PM »
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Hensley in Not the New H-Street Video

Vallely in Public Domain

both launched legions of imitators
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2020, 08:20:33 PM »

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2020, 08:58:19 PM »

This did something for the culture but maybe cky2k had more of an impact. kinda expanded skating.

Some stuff to think about I haven’t seen mentioned or is necessary to mention-
But Powell videos
Dressen Speed Freaks
Video days
Neil Blender
Questionable
I would say Dan Wolfe’s early videos
Real non-fiction
Early Alien Videos, Fred Gall timecode
Tom Penny—etnies? High five
411
Late 90’s transworld videos
Dill photosynthesis
Antihero videos
Arto was kinda the first Europea to come out of nowhere after Penny. Some of the most influential stuff didn’t come from full video parts because video parts weren’t actually cool to film for awhile in the 90s, still might not actually be cool.
Shortys fulfill- muska olson smolik
Gino-choco tour
Wasn’t long after that skating got too refined and videos weren’t very creative. Classic skateboarding like classic rock is maybe peak popsicle era.94’-03?

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2020, 09:22:15 PM »
PJ ladd WHL

Wenning - photosynthesis

Alex and Flo - 411vm

Guy - Mouse

Kalis - DC video


my personal top 5, but theres too many, skateboarding is great


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2020, 09:54:42 PM »



Easily the most influential part of all time, this is why I skate
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2020, 12:05:54 AM »
This dudes ollie was a game changer for me in 94. KIEN LIEU - DREAMS OF CHILDREN


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2020, 12:18:38 AM »
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Hensley in Not the New H-Street Video

Vallely in Public Domain

both launched legions of imitators
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what?

Are you more of a Hokus Pokus guy?

Not the New was Matt skating to Operation Ivy, right? Did i mess up?
Nah, just whole-heartedly agreeing with you.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2020, 12:59:27 AM »
t funk dc part

Yeah. Probably not this one.
Now, we used to say we put on our tights to put on the world. So I don't think it tarnishes the image at all.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2020, 12:33:02 PM »
It's just a matter of popularity (which is a product of promotion and exposure) mixed with personal taste. This whole "culturally important" notion is a marketing scheme cooked up to sell magazines and DVDs (Books, CDs... whatever).


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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2020, 02:44:47 PM »
heres my chronological crash course of important video parts post Video Days (some definite holes and it gets hazy after 2010). Interested in skating? Start here:


1991
Gonz - Video Days
Jason Lee - Video Days
Sean Sheffey - A Soldiers Story

1992
Mike Carroll - Questionable
Pat Duffy - Questionable

1994
Ethan Fowler - A Visual Sound

1995
Jeremy Wray - Second Hand Smoke

1996
Jamie Thomas - Welcome to Hell
Ricky Oyola - Eastern Exposure 3
Guy Mariano - Mouse
Lavar McBride - Trilogy
Gino Iannucci - Trilogy

1998
Smolik - Fulfill the Dream

2000
Jim Greco - Baker 2g
Brian Wenning - Photosynthesis

2001
Heath Kirchart - Sight Unseen
Louie Barletta - Man Down!

2002
Arto - Sorry
PJ Ladd - WHL

2003
Koston - Yeah Right!
Lucas Puig - Bon Appetit
Reynolds - This is Skateboarding
Anthony Pappalardo - Mosaic
Stevie Williams - The DC Video

2004
Bobby Puleo - Static II
Stefan Janoski - Subtleties

2005
Chris Cole - New Blood
Nick Jensen - Lost and Found
Antwuan Dixon - Baker 3
Daewon Song - Skate More

2006
Jerry Hsu - Bag of Suck
Nick Trapasso - Suffer the Joy
Wade Desarmo - Its Official

2007
Mike Mo - Fully Flared
Stefan Janoski - Inhabitants
John Motta - PVWHL
Justin Brock - Southern Comfort

2010
Dylan Reider - Dylan.
Jake Johnson - Mind Field
Reynolds - Stay Gold
Brian Herman - Stay Gold (Table section)
Cory Kennedy - Beware of Sasquatch

2011
Dennis Businetz - Since Day One

2012
Mark Suciu - Cross Continental

2015
Tom Knox - Vase

2016
Dane Brady - I like it here inside my mind

2017
Max Palmer - Call me 917

2018
Tyshawn Jones - Blessed

2019
Mark Suciu - Verso
Milton Martinez - Demolicion!


Nice list but you can tell from 2010-2019 in your list you're just thinking about yourself and not the skate world. A bunch of bullshit in there
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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2020, 10:10:45 AM »
One part I WISH was more influential is Heath Kirchart and Jeremy Klein's from THE END.
To this day I can't think of a bigger "FUCK YOU" to bullshit corporate America than skating on it's signage the way those two did (wearing suits made it even more poignant).
Homies in suits, late at night, setting shit on fire and skating faster than the devil himself... It seriously changed the way I saw the world.
If that mentality caught on maybe there'd be less corporate influence in skating today...but then again...$$$ is tempting.

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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2020, 04:32:38 PM »
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I'm going to argue that Placebo owes their entire career to a Canadian dude's skate video part. Appleyard should be getting royalties for this shit.

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Re: Culturally important video parts.
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2020, 06:12:57 AM »
I'd like to put Pops fully flared part. Since everyone watched fully flared since it was released, i think that part
acted in the skaters' subconscious, and helped shape the current form of east coast skateboarding.