Whose SOTY year wasn't their best year

[Arto!Arto!WakeUp!]

I know this isn't really related to the topic thread, but since everyone is mentioning Jerry...

In 2006, Daewon put out his ender in Skate More, put out Almost Cheese and Crackers, and had a part in Get Familiar, all less than 2 years after he had the last part in Almost Round 3. Each of which involved a completely different style of skating.

Now it's common for guys to put out multiple parts in a year, but it was unheard of back in 06.

Skate More was '05. He also had first and last part in the FKD video in '05. For that reason I was actually going to say, Daewon is probably the best answer to OPs question. I think he went harder in 96,97,99,01, 04 and 05 than he did 06 - it's more just that 06 marks the end of insane run of form. Or maybe I'm showing a prejudice against lip tircks? It was still a crazy year for him...

[heckler]

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Silas deserved that shit. Same with David G. "Possessed to Skate" is a lame ass title, but u cant deny dude killed it.

I get why they get the hate tho. Up until that point it was like a legends only club...Reynolds, Rowley,Hawk, Arto, BA, Koston, Bob, Dway, etc.


Silas and David def earned that shit tho, but i think David g gets the most hate.

I wanna say dude got on flip maybe 04/05 and I remember watching him in those F'east videos( anyone remember those?) skating w all the sorry guys and I thought he fit right in. Natural talent. Some what of a Rowley protege to an extent. As he grew up he kinda went overboard with the rock n roller persona (imo) but his skating was always next level. I honestly enjoyed him more as a kid, had more "class" to his skating.

Also.....does anyone remember the 03 SOTY Issue. They had the Appleyard interview, a list of Pros who never won in the past but should/could of, and then a list they called "The Heavies". Guys who they predicted would win in the future.

First list was

Gonz
Muska
Penny
JT

"The Heavies" were

Jerry Hsu
Bastien
Then like 2 other dudes. Does anyone remember who they were? I wana say Cole & maybe Busenitz??

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It was the 2005 issue, with the Danny Way SOTY retrospect. The "heavies" were Bastien, P-Rod, Zered, Chris Cole, Darrell Stanton, and maybe someone else I can't remember. Jerry Hsu wasn't included.

Also, it was Pat Duffy, not Tom Penny.

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Ok bet, Duffy but no Penny, alright. Heath?

That heavies list is/was Dope and i do remember darrell being in it, but i swear jerry and bastien were on that list the same year. Jerry had a back noseblunt foto that ended up in bag of suck.  Pretty sure Busenitz was on it  too.

Also...to answer the original question of the thread, my initial thought was AVE, but "Jerrys Kid" pushed me towards team Tony '99.

I just looked at that mag yesterday. Neither Jerry nor Busenitz was on it. I don’t think Jerry ever got a nod like that.

[Sizzla]

Sizzla still baffle Renaud nah win 2003.

[SatanicPanic]

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no one except OP and like three people on here can read

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I know right? It’s a fairly simple question- who won SOTY for a year that wasn’t their best? But people turned it into “which skater should have won over someone else?” Which has been gone over like a million times

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Which SOTYs had a better year than the year they won SOTY? Maybe there year where they threw down harder than the year they won SOTY but someone threw down even harder, kinda like Suciugate.

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Anyways, I wasn’t around back then but Carroll’s Goldfish part is not as memorable compared to questionable, modus, yeah right, or fully flared. I could be way off base here but why did he win in 94?

Also did Cardiel have a noteworthy part in 92? I mean he’s probably just always killed it, but it seemed like he was was on a tear when I started skating from 2000 to his injury.

Cards is a tough one because he did have Sight Unseen but for the most part I don’t think video ever really did him justice. I think he got it in 92 because he was doing something radically different for the time- hardly anyone was that gnar at skating parks back then. Arguably Salman got it for the same reason for doing switch so well so early.

[ColossalRaccoon]

The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

I don’t think AVE’s best year was his winning year. Same goes for Ishod, but Ishod could have one at several different times including now I think.

[Willie]

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no one except OP and like three people on here can read

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I know right? It’s a fairly simple question- who won SOTY for a year that wasn’t their best? But people turned it into “which skater should have won over someone else?” Which has been gone over like a million times

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Which SOTYs had a better year than the year they won SOTY? Maybe there year where they threw down harder than the year they won SOTY but someone threw down even harder, kinda like Suciugate.

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Anyways, I wasn’t around back then but Carroll’s Goldfish part is not as memorable compared to questionable, modus, yeah right, or fully flared. I could be way off base here but why did he win in 94?

Also did Cardiel have a noteworthy part in 92? I mean he’s probably just always killed it, but it seemed like he was was on a tear when I started skating from 2000 to his injury.

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Cards is a tough one because he did have Sight Unseen but for the most part I don’t think video ever really did him justice. I think he got it in 92 because he was doing something radically different for the time- hardly anyone was that gnar at skating parks back then. Arguably Salman got it for the same reason for doing switch so well so early.

Cardiel fits the criteria. He was better in the years following the award.

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The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

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Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

so it’s an award for the amount of footy produced?

we should have higher standards than that

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The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

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Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

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so it’s an award for the amount of footy produced?

we should have higher standards than that

Says the Creature fan.

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The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

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Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

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so it’s an award for the amount of footy produced?

we should have higher standards than that

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Says the Creature fan.

I mean, that’s totally fair

I hate Alien, I like Creature. I like West Coast skateboarding. All pretty unpopular around here

[Hombreezy]

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The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

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Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

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so it’s an award for the amount of footy produced?

we should have higher standards than that

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Says the Creature fan.

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I mean, that’s totally fair

I hate Alien, I like Creature. I like West Coast skateboarding. All pretty unpopular around here

Creature is one of the best companies out right now.

[SatanicPanic]

Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

[Jerrys Kid]

Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

Poor Chris Senn. Easily one of the best skaters of the 90s who was largely forgotten in the 2000s and 2010s.

[ColossalRaccoon]

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The award is silly anyway because people like SBN have won it

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Alright let’s get this straight. The year Silas won he had something like 3 parts come out, and anyone who has seen him skate can say the power and control he has is incredible. Three parts in one year is nuts considering how long it can take some people now to come up with a single part in 3 years. I think his is well deserved but to each their own, but you can’t deny the facts: Silas puts in work. Dude is still killing it to this day.

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so it’s an award for the amount of footy produced?

we should have higher standards than that

Well not just the footage, but being able to see him skate in person is something else. My opinion is a little biased though, he lived in my town around the years he got the SOTY, and he would destroy the local park. It’s similar to the Eugene park, which is probably why he handled it so perfectly, it was a good match up. I got to film some clips of him too and he was always super cool.

All I’m saying is his work ethic that year and the stuff he skates won him SOTY in my book. A good trick to look at is his bs flip in Don’t Act Famous. He does it at night at the sketchiest spot, and if you have ever been there you know that it is pretty ridiculous to throw that down at that spot. Funny enough Tony Manfre did fs flip down the same spot while wearing a football jersey.

[Atiba Applebum]

Who just put out an interview that said it’s hard to be bummed out about not getting SOTY when Gonz has never received it

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Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

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Poor Chris Senn. Easily one of the best skaters of the 90s who was largely forgotten in the 2000s and 2010s.

The only part I remember from him was Jump Off a Building, did he have others I should see?

[Jaqen H Gnar]

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Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

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Poor Chris Senn. Easily one of the best skaters of the 90s who was largely forgotten in the 2000s and 2010s.

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The only part I remember from him was Jump Off a Building, did he have others I should see?

https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/classics-adrenalin-skateboards-promo/

[SatanicPanic]

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Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

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Poor Chris Senn. Easily one of the best skaters of the 90s who was largely forgotten in the 2000s and 2010s.

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The only part I remember from him was Jump Off a Building, did he have others I should see?

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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/classics-adrenalin-skateboards-promo/

That was sick, thanks!

[zaymfstroud]

This is Ishod yesterday, he’s only getting better. He could’ve taken it for that Return of the Mack part or any other year.

Reynolds has had better years than 98.

Ishod has definitely gotten better since 2013 but you gotta remember, he put out 4 parts that year. 5 if you count his Sabotage 3 remix.

[rawbertson.]

Tony 1990 = Feasters video part lol
Danny Way 1991 = questionable - k
cardiel 1992 = dogtown video + probably went on thrasher trips
salman agah = dont know what label video would have been out fro mthat era
1994 Carroll Goldfish ok thats pretty decent part from him, dont know what else out that year really to compare it to
95 chris senn thats pre welcome to hell so not sure what part that would be for?
96 koston mouse, bs noseblunt hubba, makes sense
97 bob burnquist, pre anti hero vidoe would have just been contests i guess / 411
98 reynolds for what video? they knew the end was gonna be that good? lol
99 BA for Welcome to Hell makes sense
2000 rowley = 411 footage
2001 Arto = Menikmati
2002 Trujillo for in bloom lol. but he was more thrasher than everyone else beisdes trainwreck i guess.
2003 appleyard for sorry, ok
2004 danny way for mega ramp i guesss? had no one better to give it to? werent gonna give it to a east coast ledge guy.
2005 chris cole 3 flip wallenburg was that year. deserves it
2006 daewon cheese n crackers and he deserved it for all those other years lol but that vid was actually insane
2007 MJ for fully flared marks the era where basically a 3 in 1 video part sealed the deal (mind you he worked on that part for like 3 years which doesnt happen anymore)
2008 SBN insane year
honestly i kinda stoppe dcaring aobut skate videos after that though. really only started getting back into a few years ago . the way SOTY is now you need to put out 2 parts in 1 year minimum id say to be even considered. i dont think soty would care if someone dominated street league and x games, pedro  dominated vans park series and hes pretty gnar and dont think hes ever been on anyones radar for soty. seems like a video part is really what it does come down to these days.

[SubCurban Commando]

Tony 1990 = Feasters video part lol
Danny Way 1991 = questionable - k
cardiel 1992 = dogtown video + probably went on thrasher trips
salman agah = dont know what label video would have been out fro mthat era
1994 Carroll Goldfish ok thats pretty decent part from him, dont know what else out that year really to compare it to
95 chris senn thats pre welcome to hell so not sure what part that would be for?
96 koston mouse, bs noseblunt hubba, makes sense
97 bob burnquist, pre anti hero vidoe would have just been contests i guess / 411
98 reynolds for what video? they knew the end was gonna be that good? lol
99 BA for Welcome to Hell makes sense
2000 rowley = 411 footage
2001 Arto = Menikmati
2002 Trujillo for in bloom lol. but he was more thrasher than everyone else beisdes trainwreck i guess.
2003 appleyard for sorry, ok
2004 danny way for mega ramp i guesss? had no one better to give it to? werent gonna give it to a east coast ledge guy.
2005 chris cole 3 flip wallenburg was that year. deserves it
2006 daewon cheese n crackers and he deserved it for all those other years lol but that vid was actually insane
2007 MJ for fully flared marks the era where basically a 3 in 1 video part sealed the deal (mind you he worked on that part for like 3 years which doesnt happen anymore)
2008 SBN insane year
honestly i kinda stoppe dcaring aobut skate videos after that though. really only started getting back into a few years ago . the way SOTY is now you need to put out 2 parts in 1 year minimum id say to be even considered. i dont think soty would care if someone dominated street league and x games, pedro  dominated vans park series and hes pretty gnar and dont think hes ever been on anyones radar for soty. seems like a video part is really what it does come down to these days.

Koston Noseblunt on Hubba was TWS cover in 98 and Welcome to hell was 96.

[fredgallSOTY]

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While I don't think he would deserve SOTY any other year, even perhaps the year he got it...
But since the question is phrased who had better skate years other than the year they won, I would have to go with Tony Hawk. He got the first SOTY in 1990, and had had many, many better years since then.

In fact, I would argue that Tony had had the most better years other than his SOTY year.
Opinions?

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egh. depends on how you want to grade it. SOTY is kind of thrasher's version of "video part of the year" and/or most prolific skater and late 80s early 90s was when Powell Peralta was churning out videos.

but if we are talking impact on skateboarding and culture in general, has any skater ever had a bigger year than he did in 99? can't think of anyone even in that same conversation.

Kevin Terpening in 2021

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Maybe another way to put it is whose peak year was also their SOTY year? I’d say Kyle Walker because that handrail in No Other Way is pretty untouchable. Possibly Salman because he fell off right after that. Danny Way after his second one. Maybe Chris Senn.  And SBN, obviously

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Poor Chris Senn. Easily one of the best skaters of the 90s who was largely forgotten in the 2000s and 2010s.

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The only part I remember from him was Jump Off a Building, did he have others I should see?

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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/classics-adrenalin-skateboards-promo/

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That was sick, thanks!

[TheFandangler]

The SBN hate on this thread is mind-boggling. He fully deserved it. Dude had an ad in every mag, every month, plus multiple standout video parts. I remember realizing around September or something that he was going to win and being kind of shocked because he was Powell guy not that long before. And Powell in the mid-late 00s was maybe the lamest they ever were, and that's saying something. I also think he was one of the last guys to win it in a traditional sense. Just tons of coverage and steady ripping. No gimmicks or bullshit. He is a definite GOAT and anyone that disagrees needs to go watch all of his parts and try and tell me that he's not one of the best to do it. éSpecial and Origins are two of his parts that I think are slept on a bit and they are both very good.

[Croquet temper]

Never understood the Salman Agah pick at all. Pretty sure a lot of people were way ahead of his switch game at the same time, MJ’s fuckin sponsor me tape for example.

[HombreezysShittyPasta]

Tony hawk. Because the 900 was in 1999 and not on his winning year. Fr tho lol

[jorge]

Never understood the Salman Agah pick at all. Pretty sure a lot of people were way ahead of his switch game at the same time, MJ’s fuckin sponsor me tape for example.

Not how I remember it at all.  Other examples?

[Betaphenylethylalamine]

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Never understood the Salman Agah pick at all. Pretty sure a lot of people were way ahead of his switch game at the same time, MJ’s fuckin sponsor me tape for example.

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Not how I remember it at all.  Other examples?

In 93 koston was absolutely crushing the switch game.

[SatanicPanic]

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Never understood the Salman Agah pick at all. Pretty sure a lot of people were way ahead of his switch game at the same time, MJ’s fuckin sponsor me tape for example.

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Not how I remember it at all.  Other examples?

Same. There were other people doing some really technical stuff but I can’t remember anyone else going fast and blasting switch ollies over fire hydrants. Salman was just good in general- that Real part holds up pretty well considering the time. I think he’s probably the guy who fell off hardest since being SOTY and that was just best year.

[ColossalRaccoon]

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06 shoulda been Jerry.

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Also, David Gonzalez was a terrible pick. All I can tell you about this dude is that he has a fetish for rock and roll and he sticks his tongue out a lot. Couldn't tell you anything about his skating.

Jerry should have gotten it. And for good measure, fuck Emerica for dropping him.

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I guess Jerry wasn't thrasher enough. His SOTY trip would've been awesome but pretty weird for thrasher. Then again SBN was even less hellride. Anyone know who went on his SOTY trip?

Believe it or not there was a time before the stroke fest that is known as the SOTY trip when the winner shot photos for an interview and talked about the year in review.

[RichardBarkley]

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Never understood the Salman Agah pick at all. Pretty sure a lot of people were way ahead of his switch game at the same time, MJ’s fuckin sponsor me tape for example.

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Not how I remember it at all.  Other examples?

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In 93 koston was absolutely crushing the switch game.

What do you think was Kostons best video part ? I would say Menikmati....