anyone shoot guns?

[peptobismol]

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damn, i didnt know that israel was known as a good quality gun maker.

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Oh HELL yeah! You remember the uzi?
My holy grail pop gun is Israeli: the IMI (Israeli Military Industries) Timber Wolf. It’s a pump action rifle chambered for .357 Mag & briefly imported to the US by Action Arms.
Hard(er) to come by & spendy (for a pop gun) when they can be found, but I want that fun. Baaad.

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uzis were israeli made? sorry im a total newb when it comes to guns. like i said before, i am 100% for supporting the 2nd amendment but i am someone who should NEVER own a gun. i do find guns to be very fascinating. how do israeli guns compare with usa made guns? are they comparable or completely different leagues? how much would that timber wolf set you back? i do know the term pump-action and that sounds super fun.
i feel like this thread has fewer snowflakes posting, i like that. im fucking tired of getting flagged left and right because some pussy got their feelings hurt when they read my post. i thought skaters were tougher than that. i guess the new generation is here.

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Oh, we’re HERE too. I’m a big radical lefty socialist, and I generally dislike gun “culture,” but I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.
I detest the NRA, support reasonable bans on certain weapons & don’t care for hunting. Buuut... I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.
For me, it’s kinda like using my mind to affect an object hundreds of yards away, by utilizing a special “intermediary/interpreter” device that goes bang. It’s as close to being telekinetic as I can get.
Anyway, we can agree shooting shit is pretty cool, even if we don’t see eye to eye on other shit.
Hey... we both like skating too! We’re well on our way to understanding one another & becoming friends.
Or not.
Shalom!

i stand corrected, either way y'all seem to not get as offended as most others when the "wrong" thing gets said, shalom, indeed. although i dont remember butting heads with you? and @augustmoon that thing is fucking wicked looking! but setting it up, loading it up, snapping a pic, and then not firing it? kinda blue ballsing yourself, arent you?

[Willie]

I’m on a few gun forums and some of them are so fucking racist I’m pretty sure I’ve ended up on some kind of watchlist by association despite being a flaming liberal.


I don’t have the money to blow on that shit anymore and nothing interesting has happened product or technology wise in ten years so I only check in periodically to watch the train wreck.


I was thinking about shooting more but then prices got stupid again so I spent $60 on more arrows instead. Should last me a few years.

If I’m going to shoot it’s just going to be .22. Get yourself something the shoots like a laser and then you can practice and know when it’s your fault.

Wendell, I don’t get the AK thing. I mean, I get that they are bombproof but when they were stupid cheap that made more sense. Now you can get decent AR uppers for $300 and a lower for ~$100. They are just  nicer to shoot. I used to be more hyped on AKs but now unless you’re giving me a Valmet or a REAL Galil, I’ll probably take the AR.

[ill_Murray]

I’m assuming you were responding to me Willie, don’t get me wrong I love my ARs, they’re the LEGO sets of rifles, and incredibly fun to shoot and I’m planning on building out an AR-10 even though it’s 5 less ARs powerful but you just have to admire the AK. It’s on a fucking flag haha gotta respect that.

Obligatory AK copypasta

WHY YOU WANT COSMETICS FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO?

RIFLE IS FINE. YOU FUCK IT, IT ONLY GET HOMO AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT ON RIFLE.

[ihatejulio]

I've had my firearm safety certificate for a while now but don't actually own any guns. Love going to the range and shooting them though. I could just never afford them with the other hobbies I have. But I plan on buying my first before November for obvious reasons.

I also love all the dirty lefty snowflakes like me in this thread who support gun rights and I'm glad the SRA got brought up. I've considered joining my local Pink Pistol group many times.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

[matty_c]

A few of my mates are pretty heavy into roo and pig shooting. I go along sometimes.
Real hard to get semis in Australia but if you have land and a dpi licence it’s chill. When I was a kid everyone’s dad had a sks but most of em got pulped in 96.

Those military style scopes are legal here but most guys don’t use that stuff. I no longer own any firearms but I like Tikka.
T3 was a fine rifle. I would get another or maybe t3x if I were to get another rifle

I really enjoy shooting but honestly I prefer bottles to creatures

My mates got a cheap copy of 1887. Looks sick but jesus it’s rough to shoot.
Quirky law but we can’t have pump actions yet lever action is fine

I gotta be honest and maybe I’m just jealous. But no way do you lot need ar style weapons and banana clips for hunting or home defence

[peptobismol]

A few of my mates are pretty heavy into roo and pig shooting. I go along sometimes.
Real hard to get semis in Australia but if you have land and a dpi licence it’s chill. When I was a kid everyone’s dad had a sks but most of em got pulped in 96.

Those military style scopes are legal here but most guys don’t use that stuff. I no longer own any firearms but I like Tikka.
T3 was a fine rifle. I would get another or maybe t3x if I were to get another rifle

I really enjoy shooting but honestly I prefer bottles to creatures

My mates got a cheap copy of 1887. Looks sick but jesus it’s rough to shoot.
Quirky law but we can’t have pump actions yet lever action is fine

I gotta be honest and maybe I’m just jealous. But no way do you lot need ar style weapons and banana clips for hunting or home defence

very true, but the i believe the argument is, "fuck off, i like guns."

[matty_c]

I’ll pay that
I have shot autos on holidays and in the middle of nowhere in Northern Territory
I shot a rpg in Cambodia too but not at a cow
I would be lying through my teeth if I said I didn’t love that shit

[peptobismol]

its also the same with people having 6.0liter engines in their sunbeam tigers to drive downtown to get icecream on sundays. im sure theres even more ridiculous cars out in australia, racing/car/bike culture out there is one of the best.

[ill_Murray]

But no way do you lot need ar style weapons and banana clips for hunting or home defence

Please don’t bring that shit in here, I’m so tired of people making this fucking argument. Statistics show that the majority of break ins/home invasions involve 2+ people so Ill keep my tools filled up.  Do you fill your car up with half a tank of gas? Do you inflate your life jacket halfway before getting on that boat? People think it’s like John Wick out here, just spin your pistol and get 10 headshots. Nah, being able to two hand your rifle, especially under pressure, helps a lot and I for one don’t particularly want to find myself needing to reload at a crucial time. Also, rounds could be defective or magazines, so having extra is always a plus.
Also I bet you think AR means assault rifle. It does not. Semi auto =/= assault rifle.

https://www.tactical-life.com/news/leo-145-rounds-9mm-ammo/
Read this and tell me I only need 10 rounds.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson I M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

Anderson is fucking trash. If you’re going to try and get a budget AR you’re better off building off an Aero M4E1 lower kit (just google they’re all over) and find a nice upper. If you want an already built rifle look for either the M&P 15 (not the .22 but you can get a conversion kit if you really want) or a Ruger556.

Same thing with the Springfield, I wasn’t a fan, it’s too too heavy and the slide would catch my finger. If you’re set on striker fired over hammer just get a Glock 19 or 17

The best time to buy a gun was yesterday. If you’re in the LA area PM me and I’ll help you out or we can link and go shoot some shit our at Hodge Rd

[Willie]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

For a handgun just get something that YOU like shooting. Go to a range and rent stuff. That’s how I figured out really quickly that despite looking great on John McClain I hated shooting a Beretta 92.

At the very least try handling a few at a store/gun show.


I don’t know anything about Anderson. If I was buying a budget AR I’d get a PSA or Del-Ton or something. I prefer Mid Length to Carbine but full length is great if you’re shooting with iron sights. On that note, the last AR I bought I opted for a fixed carry handle so I’d be less tempted to buy additional junk. Now I wish I had the option of adding a red dot, just so I had something that worked in the dark.


For a .22 I’d recommend a bolt action that shoots better than you can (CZ, Savage, etc.). I’ve had a 10/22 and fooled around with a .22 AR and they are a fun way to burn ammo but I eventually decided it was more fun having something that was mechanically able to hit a dime at 50 yards every time even when I couldn’t. When you can’t blame the gun you don’t want for something better all the time.

[ill_Murray]

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

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For a handgun just get something that YOU like shooting. Go to a range and rent stuff.
At the very least try handling a few at a store/gun show.


If I was buying a budget AR I’d get a PSA or Del-Ton or something. I prefer Mid Length to Carbine but full length is great if you’re shooting with iron sights. On that note, the last AR I bought I opted for a fixed carry handle so I’d be less tempted to buy additional junk. Now I wish I had the option of adding a red dot, just so I had something that worked in the dark.

Great advice in the first part.

Delton’s are shit and PSA is hit or miss but they fucking suck so when it comes to shipping anything to CA. Also in CA barrel length has to be 16” or more.

Just grab yourself a flash light for your rifle if you’re worried about the dark. Or some NODs

[theSketchLord]

I've fired a gun once in my life at a range and fucking loved it.

My partner would flip if I even suggested attempting to possess a firearm and that's probably a good thing as I'd probably end up killing or injuring myself (I still have imaginary gunfights with toy guns so a loaded pistol is a very bad idea).

[Deputy Wendell]

rad.  i just got an AKV, but havent gotten to shoot it yet. 

you're going to love shooting that treacherous little brute. i've run about a thousand rounds of FMJ through mine without a single malfunction, BUT, the last time at the range with it, i tried running some hotter JHP stuff through it and it got a bit fussy--experienced a couple of failures to feed. would love to hear down the line your experience with different ammo. heads like Garand Thumb say it eats anything all day long, so we'll see:



here's a few photos of mine and its newest iteration




don’t think this is a thread for politics--more for nerding out--but matty-c, you say "But no way do you lot need ar style weapons and banana clips for hunting or home defence," and to me you're absolutely wrong, because most of the time someone in this country needs to defend themself or someone else, the "bad guy" is coming at them with something that holds 30 or more rounds (like all of those 33-round Glock magazines out there). this was from the first Judge Benitez ruling in CA (2017):

"Judge Benitez described three home invasions, two of which ended with the female victims running out of bullets...In the third case, the pajama-clad woman with a 'high-capacity' magazine took on three armed intruders, firing at them while simultaneously calling for help on her phone...'She had no place to carry an extra magazine and no way to reload because her left hand held the phone with which she was still trying to call 911',  the judge wrote, saying she killed one attacker while two escaped"

this is long enough for now, but since i mentioned it earlier, here's a couple of photos of my Arsenal with the "modernizations." the fucker was expensive (speaking to Willie), but from what i understand, Arsenal is what was created after Bulgaria denationalized its AK-building infrastructure (after supplying Russia all of that time), and this SAM 7 SF is cold-hammer forged first, then milled, etc. i can expect an indefinite service life from it




sorry for the multiple edits, i also wanted to mention regarding me and AKs to Willie, i'm a bit of a gorilla, and love and depend on the weight of AK receivers, even stamped ones. i don't feel like i'm holding anything when i'm holding friends' ARs...one man's opinion (for now)...

[ill_Murray]

Oh there is a Wendell in here haha

That AKV is a beaut for sure

[Deputy Wendell]

Oh there is a Wendell in here haha

That AKV is a beaut for sure

...hah, yeah, unfortunately had a funeral to attend yesterday, and i figured this thread would get a life of its own when i first sat down at the laptop this morning.

i don't want to keep posting over and over again--although i have a bunch of questions for people who have mentioned guns and calibers i'm interested in--but i did want to also say how stoked i am to see all of the other "the dirty lefty snowflakes" (ihatejulio) in here. i am personally an example of how bunglingly inefficient any kind of simple binary set of political designations are when i'm discussing something like gun rights with people...i am a professor and doctoral candidate in the Humanities...

...the NRA has never been an option. this organization is interesting to me, and although i'm still doing my own research, i think they sound solid and have chapters in Detroit:



https://naaga.co/

it is indeed tricky trying to navigate gun-advocacy organizations though, because so many of them are populated by toxic-ass white fanatics...

[LordManHammer]

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Oh there is a Wendell in here haha

That AKV is a beaut for sure

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...hah, yeah, unfortunately had a funeral to attend yesterday, and i figured this thread would get a life of its own when i first sat down at the laptop this morning.

i don't want to keep posting over and over again--although i have a bunch of questions for people who have mentioned guns and calibers i'm interested in--but i did want to also say how stoked i am to see all of the other "the dirty lefty snowflakes" (ihatejulio) in here. i am personally an example of how bunglingly inefficient any kind of simple binary set of political designations are when i'm discussing something like gun rights with people...i am a professor and doctoral candidate in the Humanities...

...the NRA has never been an option. this organization is interesting to me, and although i'm still doing my own research, i think they sound solid and have chapters in Detroit:



https://naaga.co/

it is indeed tricky trying to navigate gun-advocacy organizations though, because so many of them are populated by toxic-ass white fanatics...

Yeah my brothers are definitely in that weird white toxic masculinity vibe I actively try to avoid it.

I mention this because I too am an advocate for 2nd amendment. However there should be a bit more detailed information and background checks for owner’s, myself included beforehand.

As I’ve stated beforehand I probably shouldn’t own the few I have, but as the political climate we’re in I’m glad to have something vs. nothing for my families sake.

Found this earlier I had to share this.

https://apple.news/Ai3lZsYaBRoGP5HsI67nrfQ

[ill_Murray]

I’ve been bored and just dumping money into my M&P 15.

Swapped out the handguard

Got a holosun red dot and flip 3x magnifier

Got a California compliant grip

[ihatejulio]

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson I M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

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Anderson is fucking trash. If you’re going to try and get a budget AR you’re better off building off an Aero M4E1 lower kit (just google they’re all over) and find a nice upper. If you want an already built rifle look for either the M&P 15 (not the .22 but you can get a conversion kit if you really want) or a Ruger556.

Same thing with the Springfield, I wasn’t a fan, it’s too too heavy and the slide would catch my finger. If you’re set on striker fired over hammer just get a Glock 19 or 17

The best time to buy a gun was yesterday. If you’re in the LA area PM me and I’ll help you out or we can link and go shoot some shit our at Hodge Rd

For a handgun just get something that YOU like shooting. Go to a range and rent stuff. That’s how I figured out really quickly that despite looking great on John McClain I hated shooting a Beretta 92.

At the very least try handling a few at a store/gun show.


I don’t know anything about Anderson. If I was buying a budget AR I’d get a PSA or Del-Ton or something. I prefer Mid Length to Carbine but full length is great if you’re shooting with iron sights. On that note, the last AR I bought I opted for a fixed carry handle so I’d be less tempted to buy additional junk. Now I wish I had the option of adding a red dot, just so I had something that worked in the dark.


For a .22 I’d recommend a bolt action that shoots better than you can (CZ, Savage, etc.). I’ve had a 10/22 and fooled around with a .22 AR and they are a fun way to burn ammo but I eventually decided it was more fun having something that was mechanically able to hit a dime at 50 yards every time even when I couldn’t. When you can’t blame the gun you don’t want for something better all the time.

Thanks for the responses y'all, much appreciated. I'll look into getting an M&P 15 with a conversion kit because I want to practice my aim without having to spend a ton of money on ammo. Then when I want to shoot a higher caliber I can just take off the kit. Ruger 556 is another good choice that I have looked into. I liked shooting the XD's to be honest and didn't have any trouble with the slide catching.

Funny that Beretta 92 was mentioned since that was the pistol I have been most accurate with in the past. I'd consider getting one but it is a bit on the bulky/heavy side for my tastes. 10/22 is another great option for a first buy. I'm really eager to learn more so thanks again for the help!

[pugmaster]

I've had my firearm safety certificate for a while now but don't actually own any guns. Love going to the range and shooting them though. I could just never afford them with the other hobbies I have. But I plan on buying my first before November for obvious reasons.

I also love all the dirty lefty snowflakes like me in this thread who support gun rights and I'm glad the SRA got brought up. I've considered joining my local Pink Pistol group many times.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a first buy? I have to be California compliant if that helps. I was thinking of getting an Anderson AM15 AR-15, a 9mm Springfield XD-S pistol, or a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Sport to just dink stuff with 22. Not very happy with the surge pricing on ammo but it is what it is.

I've been very happy with my s&w 9mm. It was not expensive, it is easy to clean, and has a 16 round clip capacity. Also, it is light.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/sw-sd9-ve-std-capacity

[matty_c]

All good I don’t wanna derail this with pointless arguments.

It’s just my opinion, man

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Guns we have here are quite capable of killing all manner of beast. Maybe I’d think differently in my country there were more guns than people and there’s more than one mass shooting per day.
I honestly don’t know man yeah maybe I would feel the need then

[formula420]

Grew up shooting once in a while. Its fun. I went skeet shooting recently and that was great.

[Deputy Wendell]

All good I don’t wanna derail this with pointless arguments.

It’s just my opinion, man

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Guns we have here are quite capable of killing all manner of beast. Maybe I’d think differently in my country there were more guns than people and there’s more than one mass shooting per day.
I honestly don’t know man yeah maybe I would feel the need then

it's all good my friend, and living in the USA--which i consider to be in a state of TERMINAL decline--is as you say, a whole different ball game. of course, when one lives in a city, "mass shootings" aren't really a problem--carefully planned and prepared "mass shootings" are almost wholly a suburban issue.

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Oh, we’re HERE too. I’m a big radical lefty socialist, and I generally dislike gun “culture,” but I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.
I detest the NRA, support reasonable bans on certain weapons & don’t care for hunting. Buuut... I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.

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same.  i was thinking about joining the Socialist Rifle Association, but i'm a little sketched on having my name on a list.

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for real. look at the SRA subreddit, there's dudes typing all sorts of shit that will put out on some 3 letter organizations lists. 

i mentioned the NAAGA (https://naaga.co/) above, and in addition to being as sincerely inclusive as they are (or at least aspire to be), they have a rational and well-thought-out code of conduct which i can see as a solid attempt at least, to avoid members' names ending up on lists...which i suspect is much easier said than done. here's the code of conduct:

"-Members may NOT engage in activities that OVERTLY promote violence toward any members or the public.
-Members may NOT engage in any form of harassment or discrimination based on race, color, sex, age, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability toward any members or the public.
-Members may NOT engage in alcohol consumption before or during a NAAGA meeting or shooting event.
-Members may NOT engage in verbal discussions or statements advocating any acts of violence toward Police, Military, and/or Government officials.
-Members may NOT engage in verbal discussions or statements advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government."

again, i'm still doing my own research on this, but this organization seems promising

[ill_Murray]

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Oh, we’re HERE too. I’m a big radical lefty socialist, and I generally dislike gun “culture,” but I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.
I detest the NRA, support reasonable bans on certain weapons & don’t care for hunting. Buuut... I’m a big fan of guns & shooting.

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same.  i was thinking about joining the Socialist Rifle Association, but i'm a little sketched on having my name on a list.

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for real. look at the SRA subreddit, there's dudes typing all sorts of shit that will put out on some 3 letter organizations lists.

I'm glad this thread is taking off. I've just been shooting, biking, and smoking weed this summer. Doesn't get much better.   

Currently got a glock 19 gen 3 and Walter P22 for taking out to play. The P22 can be had hella cheap and with a couple easy mods is a fun little pew pew pew toy that doesn't cost much to play with.

Sportsman's had some Maverick 88 12 gauge home defense available online earlier today for $230ish but sold out before I could swoop in.

Also got a cheap anderson stripped lower. I know it's not anything special but since I'm gonna be mostly home bound this fall, I figure I'll work on a build. Any y'all got recommendations for websites and complete uppers?

First off toss that Anderson in the trash, their QC  is non existent.

Just go check out Aero if you want a good budget build.

 Find one of these - https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/m4e1-complete-lower-receiver-moe-sl-grip-slk-carbine-stock

Damn Mavericks used to be $180 a few months ago

I heard Mossberg is backed up with like almost a solid year of orders

[ill_Murray]

I live in CA as well, if you’re in SoCal let’s shoot.

Just lurk R/gundeals and you can find aero lowers cheap and then go on calguns and find a home based ffl who won’t fuck you on the fees

[ill_Murray]

Honestly you can probably find what you’re looking for on either but I’ve had better luck on calguns. Just avoid anything politics related on there

[Deputy Wendell]

Right about now I’m extra happy to be able to feed both the Marlin 1894 CST & the Ruger SP101 the same munition(s). The .38 Specials are still pretty cheap & the .357 Mags aren’t to spendy either.
The Marlin’s action could use a little refining on a pro gunsmith’s bench, but it is a pure delight to shoot.
Of all of the ones in the safe, the New England break-open .17 HMR single shot is still the most fun to spend time with, though.

i'm a bit jealous Lou, Marlins are incredible/beautiful rifles and definitely a high contender for my next purchase--which will probably not be any time soon, if for no other reason than my safe is at capacity.

i dig Garand Thumb's rigor and experience when it comes to reviewing firearms, and i remember this one on your 1894 CST:



i could picture some purists not digging the aesthetic of that "upgrade" (the same way AK fanatics are about "modernizing" the platform), but that does indeed look like a fun rifle to learn to shoot.

i'm actually REALLY interested in the 45-70 Government round, and this absolute beaut of a rifle--the Marlin 1895 Trapper--is what i would love to become acquainted with this round through, although they've been hard to get (and expensive) for a while now:





i'd be lying if i didn't also admit that i had my interest piqued in this rifle since it is what Jeremy Renner's character is wielding in Wind River (an incredible film by the way).

in addition to being just a straight brute of a caliber, i know the 45-70 Government round is also expensive as shit to shoot, so i also figured that would be an ideal round to invest in the equipment to begin loading my own ammo for...alas, all of course down the line, once i've saved up much more money than i have to spend now...one can dream though...

[FROTHY]

This Henry .410 lever shotgun would be really fun to shoot. However, it's kinda pricey and there aren't many applications for it. Would be sweet to have if I  owned a farm and needed to exterminate critters once in a while.



I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 series 20 gauge pump. It's like Mossberg's cheap version of its own 500. I think it's great for the price, although I haven't put it through much wear and tear. I've used it trap shooting and got my first take goose hunting with it last year. Cooked thanksgiving dinner with those geese. Good deal!

[Deputy Wendell]

This Henry .410 lever shotgun would be really fun to shoot. However, it's kinda pricey and there aren't many applications for it. Would be sweet to have if I  owned a farm and needed to exterminate critters once in a while.



I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 series 20 gauge pump. It's like Mossberg's cheap version of its own 500. I think it's great for the price, although I haven't put it through much wear and tear. I've used it trap shooting and got my first take goose hunting with it last year. Cooked thanksgiving dinner with those geese. Good deal!

oh my, that Henry looks fun...and treacherous...and fun. i could picture carrying that around in a sweet scabbard on a farm for sure...

...eh, since we're talking short-barreled and Mossberg here, i might as well share a photo of this nasty fucker which is an absolute blast to shoot once you get used to it:



to me, Mossberg is like the Glock of shotguns--one still gets dependability despite comparatively reasonable prices. people can say what they want about this 590 Shockwave--and at first one is reluctant to shoot it anywhere but from the hip--but i've learned to aim and wield this thing quite well at this point. to me, this is ideal for home-defense in all of the shitty little Detroit apartments i've lived in over the decades, with their small rooms, tight corners, and short hallways...

[FROTHY]

Have you shot slugs with the shockwave? (can't tell what ammo is in the photo). I have to imagine the recoil is pretty crazy to handle.

[Deputy Wendell]

Have you shot slugs with the shockwave? (can't tell what ammo is in the photo). I have to imagine the recoil is pretty crazy to handle.

i have shot slugs through it, but really only because if the rifle range is the only range open at the shooting range i frequent  (and not the handgun range), slugs are required because the targets are on tracks that the shot pellets could get stuck in. other than that, i have a stock of 00 (and some #8) shot that i shoot most of the time. the slugs definitely kick a bit more, but nothing too significant.

that being said--and in general--once you've fired it a few times with any round, you get the feel for it and lose the fear of bringing it up to chest level and actually aiming with the bead becomes normal. the only people i see having bad experiences with it are the boobs that go to the range and try to shoot it one-handed for social media...