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Re: anyone shoot guns?
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2020, 03:20:36 PM »
my local shop charges 20 per order; if i get two or three guns, its still 20.  100 is pretty sketch
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« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2020, 03:57:17 PM »
Ugh, I had been eyeing a midlength kit for a while. Decided to sleep on it and was just about to order and the shit went out of stock. They have a similar one though so I'll have to take a peek.


I built a mid length Del-Ton (which someone on here said was a shit brand but has been fine for 5k rounds). I much prefer it to a shorter gas system.

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« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2020, 07:27:08 PM »
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Ugh, I had been eyeing a midlength kit for a while. Decided to sleep on it and was just about to order and the shit went out of stock. They have a similar one though so I'll have to take a peek.
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I built a mid length Del-Ton (which someone on here said was a shit brand but has been fine for 5k rounds). I much prefer it to a shorter gas system.
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I think PSA sells out and immediately re-lists them under a different sku because I found the kit again and ordered. 16” mid length complete upper, with LPK, PSA polished trigger and magpul shit, bcg and charging handle. Was going to do a magazine locked build but I realized you can actually build a featureless that isn’t all that super easy so I’ll do that. Pretty excited. I can have fun shooting my 10/22 all day but have wanted something bigger for a while. Was kicking around even going for something bolt action for a while but don’t know how often I’ll be able to do long range shooting. I’ll be living in a fairly secluded area though so I’m sure I could find a spot.

I’ve been wanting to get a semi-decent .308 bolt action or maybe a short action .223 with irons like a CZ 527. The gun I use the most is a CZ 452 Trainer. It just feels great and shoots like a laser with trash ammo. I have/had some fun stuff but eventually I just got bored essentially tossing money down range  in a 2-4 MOA pattern.

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« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2020, 08:30:50 PM »
Same here. The upper area I don’t want to fuck with really. The lower is a piece of cake.

Its funny, the upper is actually super easy to assemble, but its just kind of terrifying the first couple times you do it.

Found out PSA doesn't ship to where I live, not even parts, so I bought an Aero Precision lower instead.  Kind of bummed I can't get anything even a grip from PSA.

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« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2020, 11:06:10 AM »
Any of y'all take a ccw course? I just took an excellent, non-NRA affiliated course over the course of a weekend. The instructor, while I don't know of his social/political stance, was a young guy with an education. I make note of that because he wasn't a typical chud, but a really solid instructor who left the political shit out of the room saying "My CCW course was a bunch of old guys talking politics and I don't want that here. We're here to learn what to do in a gun fight."

We spent a great deal of time discussing velocity/FPS and how regardless of caliber, a handgun has extremely limited stopping capabilities. Pretty interesting stuff.

good to hear--sounds like your instructor was on point. i've had a CPL (or CCW) for about a decade, and just renewed it for the second time back in the winter (just in time too, because the first lock down happened a few weeks after).

i definitely don't align with the politics of the main instructor and his main assistants (being a leftist this is pretty inevitable i guess), but they're pretty good about keeping the politics out. i've also taken a couple of their advanced training courses, getting more into running through various drills, drawing from holster, sight-acquisition, accuracy, situational awareness, engaging multiple targets, etc. all in all i've had great experiences and learned a lot thus far.

i will say that--except for trying to learn (and keep) things on a skateboard--trying to learn to consistently shoot a handgun effectively and accurately has been one of the most humbling endeavors of my life...

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« Reply #95 on: November 24, 2020, 12:06:34 PM »
I'm an avid hunter, so yes I shoot guns.

No handguns though
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« Reply #96 on: November 24, 2020, 12:56:30 PM »
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Any of y'all take a ccw course? I just took an excellent, non-NRA affiliated course over the course of a weekend. The instructor, while I don't know of his social/political stance, was a young guy with an education. I make note of that because he wasn't a typical chud, but a really solid instructor who left the political shit out of the room saying "My CCW course was a bunch of old guys talking politics and I don't want that here. We're here to learn what to do in a gun fight."

We spent a great deal of time discussing velocity/FPS and how regardless of caliber, a handgun has extremely limited stopping capabilities. Pretty interesting stuff.
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good to hear--sounds like your instructor was on point. i've had a CPL (or CCW) for about a decade, and just renewed it for the second time back in the winter (just in time too, because the first lock down happened a few weeks after).

i definitely don't align with the politics of the main instructor and his main assistants (being a leftist this is pretty inevitable i guess), but they're pretty good about keeping the politics out. i've also taken a couple of their advanced training courses, getting more into running through various drills, drawing from holster, sight-acquisition, accuracy, situational awareness, engaging multiple targets, etc. all in all i've had great experiences and learned a lot thus far.

i will say that--except for trying to learn (and keep) things on a skateboard--trying to learn to consistently shoot a handgun effectively and accurately has been one of the most humbling endeavors of my life...
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no doubt. we definitely spent most of the 2nd day working with basic drills such as drawing from holster, sight acquisition from draw to shooting, as well ready positions. most of the day consisted of dry practice and an insistence on developing muscle memory. The most helpful was a drill with 6 steps
1:load and make ready- here you've got the gun in the work zone, or in front of your face. Looking forward, eyes through trigger guard and on magazine while loading. Looking down to load is a bad habit
2:Shooter ready- this is where we do a mental check to see if we're ready- is gun racked, etc
3:Stand By- bring gun to center of chest with combat grip
4:Fight- draw straight like out from center of chest to shooting position, keeping eye on target and sight, fire when arms are fully extended.
5:Finger off trigger- really a good cue to help refrain from jerking or moving the gun after shot is pulled
6:compress to stand by position

#4 and the practice of starting your sighting before your arms are fully extended was kind of a game changer. Instructor said "I want you to learn this so you're ready to shoot and not fumbling around with sights."

I agree about the humility piece! I went shooting with my partner last week and man, I go about once every week, she goes once every other month. there she is popping away dead eye status with her little P22 and while I'm staying in the paper plate zone, I'm just eating the recoil of my 19 for some reason. anyways, I want to shoot a few mags with the Walther and trade her the Glock. Wouldn't you know, she's going Annie Oakley with that thing too!

As a lefty, are you familiar with the Socialist Rifle Association? The reddit sub is pretty cringe at times, but it's a newer alternative to the NRA when it comes to arming and educating the working class

that sounds like a great class. also, i'm not sure how it goes state by state, but here in Michigan there's mandatory 8-hours of instruction including actual range/shooting time--the CPL class i took, it was one grueling 8-hour class (luckily the renewal classes are much shorter). it sounds like your instructor split it up in to two days, which sounds better to me.

i'm not sure if you ever check out his channel, but i personally dig Garand Thumb's reviews and videos, and he's had some super useful and insightful videos dealing with concealed carry and shooting handguns lately--here are a few:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFRWFh4Uyc&t=667s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYi0SNl0VOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4fi79OmL4&t=738s

i am aware of the Socialist Rifle Association--are they also known as and/or affiliated with those John Brown people? I'm not too sure about them, although i think we'd agree on quite a bit. i'm assuming you're with me on never being an NRA member since you mention that, but i have recently been wondering if this wouldn't be a gun good group to join, and they have a chapter in Detroit. they seem to have one of the soundest set of rules for membership and conduct:

https://naaga.co/

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Re: anyone shoot guns?
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2020, 07:48:30 AM »
seems like a more fitting thread to put this

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2020/11/19/president-elect-biden-brings-a-boost-to-gun-sales/?sh=338f39b6258f

one can take or leave what it's claiming, but it is interesting to see what's going down with the ATF's new list of braces that SB Tactical can no longer sell now, and the millions of firearm owners who own them who just became felons in the past couple of days--i.e. overnight...

edit: just saw some new info on the ATF's new list of braces from SB Tactical, and for the heads in here that have any of those braces on any of your guns, it appears as though there is no "official" change to the legality of owning the braces, so you're good (for now). it appears the list has more to do with messing with SB Tactical...don't want any heads in here to panic and run out and pay $200 for that shit tax stamp.

i won't subscribe to dude's channel, because i disagree with almost everything he espouses other than 2A stuff, but here's this update on the ATF order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLMlT1y8Apo
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Re: anyone shoot guns?
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2020, 07:02:28 PM »
Have a 20 gauge semi auto shotgun for dove and ducks

12 gauge with pistol grip for home defense

and a .270 bolt action ruger rifle for deer/hog

used a friends night vision/thermal .308 AR10 for Hog hunting last year and it was incredible

No handguns yet. Want to make sure I stop drinking as much so I can be a responsible gun owner.
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« Reply #99 on: January 20, 2021, 08:47:25 AM »
i just won the auction on one of these on GunBroker.com--Galil Ace pistol chambered in 7.62 x 39, so it takes all of the same ammo and magazines as the AKs in my gun safe:

https://iwi.us/product/gap39iisb/



it's still so funny to me that i register this as a "pistol" with my friendly local sheriff's department, just like i have with every Glock in my safe...thank-you for the arbitrary designations ATF...

i'm still a bit sketched on how much i spent on it...but fuck it though, i know that with a Galil i can expect indefinite service life, 100% solid fit and finish, absolute dependability, etc. plus, i'm sure out of the many anti-gun bills that have been initiated in the past month, further checks on imports are coming.

can't wait to get it and take it to the range...

Garand Thumb just did a review on it--he says its over-gassed...that's one of the reasons i want it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWOTBQdePo&t=736s


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« Reply #100 on: January 20, 2021, 09:01:13 AM »
i just won the auction on one of these on GunBroker.com--Galil Ace pistol chambered in 7.62 x 39, so it takes all of the same ammo and magazines as the AKs in my gun safe:

https://iwi.us/product/gap39iisb/



it's still so funny to me that i register this as a "pistol" with my friendly local sheriff's department, just like i have with every Glock in my safe...thank-you for the arbitrary designations ATF...

i'm still a bit sketched on how much i spent on it...but fuck it though, i know that with a Galil i can expect indefinite service life, 100% solid fit and finish, absolute dependability, etc. plus, i'm sure out of the many anti-gun bills that have been initiated in the past month, further checks on imports are coming.

can't wait to get it and take it to the range...

Garand Thumb just did a review on it--he says its over-gassed...that's one of the reasons i want it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWOTBQdePo&t=736s


that looks real nice
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Re: anyone shoot guns?
« Reply #101 on: January 20, 2021, 09:20:13 AM »
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i just won the auction on one of these on GunBroker.com--Galil Ace pistol chambered in 7.62 x 39, so it takes all of the same ammo and magazines as the AKs in my gun safe:

https://iwi.us/product/gap39iisb/



it's still so funny to me that i register this as a "pistol" with my friendly local sheriff's department, just like i have with every Glock in my safe...thank-you for the arbitrary designations ATF...

i'm still a bit sketched on how much i spent on it...but fuck it though, i know that with a Galil i can expect indefinite service life, 100% solid fit and finish, absolute dependability, etc. plus, i'm sure out of the many anti-gun bills that have been initiated in the past month, further checks on imports are coming.

can't wait to get it and take it to the range...

Garand Thumb just did a review on it--he says its over-gassed...that's one of the reasons i want it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWOTBQdePo&t=736s


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that looks real nice

Even the thought you can buy something like this is nuts.
What I wouldn't give for one of these and a few acres.
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« Reply #102 on: January 20, 2021, 09:41:26 AM »
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i just won the auction on one of these on GunBroker.com--Galil Ace pistol chambered in 7.62 x 39, so it takes all of the same ammo and magazines as the AKs in my gun safe:

https://iwi.us/product/gap39iisb/



it's still so funny to me that i register this as a "pistol" with my friendly local sheriff's department, just like i have with every Glock in my safe...thank-you for the arbitrary designations ATF...

i'm still a bit sketched on how much i spent on it...but fuck it though, i know that with a Galil i can expect indefinite service life, 100% solid fit and finish, absolute dependability, etc. plus, i'm sure out of the many anti-gun bills that have been initiated in the past month, further checks on imports are coming.

can't wait to get it and take it to the range...

Garand Thumb just did a review on it--he says its over-gassed...that's one of the reasons i want it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWOTBQdePo&t=736s


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that looks real nice
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Even the thought you can buy something like this is nuts.
What I wouldn't give for one of these and a few acres.

this truly is the goal...enough land to grow plenty of food, pour some concrete, and shoot at steel targets whenever i feel like it...

...shit, maybe down the line when i have tenure or something like that--one can dream...

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« Reply #103 on: January 20, 2021, 05:32:49 PM »
Any suggestions for handguns? I'm currently in canada so I cant have em here, but I'm moving to Montana next month and cannot wait to hit the range!
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« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2021, 06:50:35 PM »
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Any suggestions for handguns? I'm currently in canada so I cant have em here, but I'm moving to Montana next month and cannot wait to hit the range!
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I'm not an expert and don't really know much, Deputy Wendell seems to be the one with the most knowledge, but I appreciate the shit out of my Glock 19. It shoots any ammo I feed it, it's fairly accurate, easy to maintain, and is that goldilocks size that can be concealed without being tiny. It's 9mm double stack, so the recoil isn't heavy or snappy, whereas other 9mm I've shot, specifically the smith & Wesson MP shield and Springfield XD, were too snappy and didn't feel as sturdy. They left my hands feeling sore, whereas the Glock 19 is something I can shoot a few hundred rounds through without feeling too tired. I don't know what 9mm ammo costs right now, but it's gone up and up as the pandemic has continued. Between May-August I was able to get it from 13cents per round up to 25cents per round. Since then it seems to all be 30-50cents per round. Really though, I think availability depends on where you live.

Can't go wrong with the Bersa firestorm/thunder 380acp. It's a cheap (sub$300) gun with an alloy frame and steel slide. It's snappy because it's tiny, but it's inexpensive and incredibly accurate. .380 ammo seems to be around .50cents per round, before and during pandemic. It's a bit harder to find

Also got a few Walther P22. they're kinda chintzy things but fun and cheap to shoot although .22 ammo prices seem to be rising as well. They're pretty reliable and accurate once you file sand/polish the feed ramp.

Thanks for offering up some solid advice! I'm looking at some other models too like the Taurus g3, rugar 57 and a few others.

I obviously wont be choosing any until I'm there and can hold them, see what feels right and see the round selections. Super hyped to do it though!
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« Reply #105 on: January 21, 2021, 05:35:27 AM »
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Any suggestions for handguns? I'm currently in canada so I cant have em here, but I'm moving to Montana next month and cannot wait to hit the range!
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I'm not an expert and don't really know much, Deputy Wendell seems to be the one with the most knowledge, but I appreciate the shit out of my Glock 19. It shoots any ammo I feed it, it's fairly accurate, easy to maintain, and is that goldilocks size that can be concealed without being tiny. It's 9mm double stack, so the recoil isn't heavy or snappy, whereas other 9mm I've shot, specifically the smith & Wesson MP shield and Springfield XD, were too snappy and didn't feel as sturdy. They left my hands feeling sore, whereas the Glock 19 is something I can shoot a few hundred rounds through without feeling too tired. I don't know what 9mm ammo costs right now, but it's gone up and up as the pandemic has continued. Between May-August I was able to get it from 13cents per round up to 25cents per round. Since then it seems to all be 30-50cents per round. Really though, I think availability depends on where you live.

Can't go wrong with the Bersa firestorm/thunder 380acp. It's a cheap (sub$300) gun with an alloy frame and steel slide. It's snappy because it's tiny, but it's inexpensive and incredibly accurate. .380 ammo seems to be around .50cents per round, before and during pandemic. It's a bit harder to find

Also got a few Walther P22. they're kinda chintzy things but fun and cheap to shoot although .22 ammo prices seem to be rising as well. They're pretty reliable and accurate once you file sand/polish the feed ramp.
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Thanks for offering up some solid advice! I'm looking at some other models too like the Taurus g3, rugar 57 and a few others.

I obviously wont be choosing any until I'm there and can hold them, see what feels right and see the round selections. Super hyped to do it though!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvB3solmhqtgDeLpD-yTtfg

this dude usually has some legit review/informative videos on different guns and generally presents as apolitical

Betaphenylethylalamine, this is some solid advice from IusedToSkateMore as far as gun reviews--at least one of the reasons that Hickok45 (and his son) has nearly 6 million subscribers, is because it really is just about the guns and he does leave the politics out of it for the most part...shit, it really is like having someone's old amiable grandfather talking to you about guns. it could be that he's a retired English teacher....i know in the earlier videos he still briefly plugs the NRA, but he did part with them a bit ago, which makes him that much more credible.

also, the reason i will often go to his channel first when i'm thinking of buying something is because he almost always shoots and reviews guns that are all stock, so no upgrades or enhancements, so you really do get a good idea of what you're thinking of buying. he also usually field strips weapons and takes a look at the components that make them go "pew pew," which i've found to be helpful in the past.

my experience and knowledge with guns is growing, but actually pretty limited in some ways--for instance, i know nothing about the AR platform, in fact, i've never shot an AR if you can believe it...i have only AKs and AK variants all based on the AK platform in my safe--the Galil i mention above being a case in point, since it is based directly on the AK platform. in this regard, as far as handguns go--especially if it's going to be your first and/or only one--i would buy a Glock. honestly, as far as reliability, durability, ergonomics, etc. i honestly have never found a reason to buy handguns other than Glocks...there's a reason they are so widely used by various agencies around the world, they truly are the best handguns.

the big question, is caliber, and in this regard i think Usedto's suggestion of the Glock 19 in 9mm is spot on--and it's a compact, so pretty ideal if you should ever decide to concealed carry. i also have a Glock 17, so a full size Glock (also in 9mm) which i think is the best size for the range, but might be big to concealed carry if you should ever decide to. since we're talking about the old-timer, here's a couple of his videos on the 19:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUgN60kyv8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2w5VlPo3Y

and since we're talking about the Glock 19, which is a compact, the Glock 23 is also the same size, but .40 caliber instead of 9mm, so has a bit more power. some people actually say for that size gun, .40 cal is hard on the hands, and it may be a bit true if you're trying to go through 500 rounds every time you go to the range (kind of tough with the ammo shortage these days of course), but i honestly love my Glock 23 and .40 caliber as a round of ammo. here's Hickok's review of the new gen 5 Glcok 23:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMz2arBsi9Y

one last thing about the Glock 23, with the ammo shortage the way it is, 9mm truly is the most widely used round--for good reasons of course--so .40 cal seems to be a bit easier to come by...but shit, by the time you move here hopefully the ammo supply will be back to normal...

edit: i meant to say, i think in our conversation about having some acres to live and breathe on, we can all agree that Hickok45 has one of the sweetest home shooting ranges ever--or as he often likes to say, a "target-rich environment." all of that steel to "plink" on looks like an absolute blast...and that's only one of the ranges on his land...some day, i swear, some day...
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« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2021, 02:05:36 PM »
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Any suggestions for handguns? I'm currently in canada so I cant have em here, but I'm moving to Montana next month and cannot wait to hit the range!
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I'm not an expert and don't really know much, Deputy Wendell seems to be the one with the most knowledge, but I appreciate the shit out of my Glock 19. It shoots any ammo I feed it, it's fairly accurate, easy to maintain, and is that goldilocks size that can be concealed without being tiny. It's 9mm double stack, so the recoil isn't heavy or snappy, whereas other 9mm I've shot, specifically the smith & Wesson MP shield and Springfield XD, were too snappy and didn't feel as sturdy. They left my hands feeling sore, whereas the Glock 19 is something I can shoot a few hundred rounds through without feeling too tired. I don't know what 9mm ammo costs right now, but it's gone up and up as the pandemic has continued. Between May-August I was able to get it from 13cents per round up to 25cents per round. Since then it seems to all be 30-50cents per round. Really though, I think availability depends on where you live.

Can't go wrong with the Bersa firestorm/thunder 380acp. It's a cheap (sub$300) gun with an alloy frame and steel slide. It's snappy because it's tiny, but it's inexpensive and incredibly accurate. .380 ammo seems to be around .50cents per round, before and during pandemic. It's a bit harder to find

Also got a few Walther P22. they're kinda chintzy things but fun and cheap to shoot although .22 ammo prices seem to be rising as well. They're pretty reliable and accurate once you file sand/polish the feed ramp.
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Thanks for offering up some solid advice! I'm looking at some other models too like the Taurus g3, rugar 57 and a few others.

I obviously wont be choosing any until I'm there and can hold them, see what feels right and see the round selections. Super hyped to do it though!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvB3solmhqtgDeLpD-yTtfg

this dude usually has some legit review/informative videos on different guns and generally presents as apolitical
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Betaphenylethylalamine, this is some solid advice from IusedToSkateMore as far as gun reviews--at least one of the reasons that Hickok45 (and his son) has nearly 6 million subscribers, is because it really is just about the guns and he does leave the politics out of it for the most part...shit, it really is like having someone's old amiable grandfather talking to you about guns. it could be that he's a retired English teacher....i know in the earlier videos he still briefly plugs the NRA, but he did part with them a bit ago, which makes him that much more credible.

also, the reason i will often go to his channel first when i'm thinking of buying something is because he almost always shoots and reviews guns that are all stock, so no upgrades or enhancements, so you really do get a good idea of what you're thinking of buying. he also usually field strips weapons and takes a look at the components that make them go "pew pew," which i've found to be helpful in the past.

my experience and knowledge with guns is growing, but actually pretty limited in some ways--for instance, i know nothing about the AR platform, in fact, i've never shot an AR if you can believe it...i have only AKs and AK variants all based on the AK platform in my safe--the Galil i mention above being a case in point, since it is based directly on the AK platform. in this regard, as far as handguns go--especially if it's going to be your first and/or only one--i would buy a Glock. honestly, as far as reliability, durability, ergonomics, etc. i honestly have never found a reason to buy handguns other than Glocks...there's a reason they are so widely used by various agencies around the world, they truly are the best handguns.

the big question, is caliber, and in this regard i think Usedto's suggestion of the Glock 19 in 9mm is spot on--and it's a compact, so pretty ideal if you should ever decide to concealed carry. i also have a Glock 17, so a full size Glock (also in 9mm) which i think is the best size for the range, but might be big to concealed carry if you should ever decide to. since we're talking about the old-timer, here's a couple of his videos on the 19:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUgN60kyv8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2w5VlPo3Y

and since we're talking about the Glock 19, which is a compact, the Glock 23 is also the same size, but .40 caliber instead of 9mm, so has a bit more power. some people actually say for that size gun, .40 cal is hard on the hands, and it may be a bit true if you're trying to go through 500 rounds every time you go to the range (kind of tough with the ammo shortage these days of course), but i honestly love my Glock 23 and .40 caliber as a round of ammo. here's Hickok's review of the new gen 5 Glcok 23:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMz2arBsi9Y

one last thing about the Glock 23, with the ammo shortage the way it is, 9mm truly is the most widely used round--for good reasons of course--so .40 cal seems to be a bit easier to come by...but shit, by the time you move here hopefully the ammo supply will be back to normal...

edit: i meant to say, i think in our conversation about having some acres to live and breathe on, we can all agree that Hickok45 has one of the sweetest home shooting ranges ever--or as he often likes to say, a "target-rich environment." all of that steel to "plink" on looks like an absolute blast...and that's only one of the ranges on his land...some day, i swear, some day...

Thanks! I stayed up waaaay too late last night watching his videos lol. Very good info.

I'm pretty sure I'll be going glock, not sure what size yet? But I also wont be making any decisions until I can feel it in my hands.

Also, I cannot believe hickock hits a target at 230 yard with a glock 27. That's insane
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« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2021, 03:09:28 PM »
I'm pretty sure the glock 19 is what I'll end up with, but I will report back. It's one of the first things to do on my list after I arrive on the 8th and settle in.

Turns out there is a great range about a 5 minute drive from the house I rented too, major bonus
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« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2021, 03:27:14 PM »
I like to shoot guns but haven't set aside the cash to get one myself

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« Reply #109 on: January 21, 2021, 04:26:53 PM »
i've got some pellet guns and a black powder hunting rifle.
PCP .25 is gnarly but it's hard to pump after every 10 shots or so.

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« Reply #110 on: January 21, 2021, 04:37:22 PM »
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I'm pretty sure the glock 19 is what I'll end up with, but I will report back. It's one of the first things to do on my list after I arrive on the 8th and settle in.

Turns out there is a great range about a 5 minute drive from the house I rented too, major bonus
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Look into BLM (bureau of land management) land in your area for free shooting in the great outdoors. Its always nice to hike a hill and send rounds down range

I'll look into tonight! Thanks for the info! I've already been looking into the rules and regs for hunting and fishing too.

It's a fantastic hunting area I'm told(and from what I've seen)

I'm excited to get into some fly fishing too as here, we only have lake trout. Anyhow, I'll be looking forward to my first deer and elk hunts in the mountains.  That's been a dream of mine for along time.
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« Reply #111 on: January 21, 2021, 05:12:01 PM »
@Betaphenylethylalamine

This is what I have and I absolutely love it.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/sd-ve


I didn't think I'd be able to afford a Smith and Wesson while being a broke grad student, but this ran me 350$ before tax and I was totally cool with that.

It is easy to clean, reliable, and could be used for concealed carry, but I would personally want something smaller. It doesn't have a safety, so I would not want to use it for CC for that reason as well. 

I read some comments online that the trigger pull is too difficult, but I think it is a load of crap.  It is a "self defense" model, so they did make the trigger pull more difficult than other guns, but it doesn't bother me at all.  Its like the difference between a 50mm and 51mm wheel IMO.
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« Reply #112 on: January 21, 2021, 05:14:09 PM »
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i've got some pellet guns and a black powder hunting rifle.
PCP .25 is gnarly but it's hard to pump after every 10 shots or so.
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damn G, Ive fucked with LSD25, but PCP25, you're an animal ;)

I saw one on craigslist today actually. But my buddy has a full auto pellet rifle that's pretty beastly for what it is.
sick, is it a PCP? those pneumatic guns are like nail guns but they're very difficult to pump, takes all your weight. Hatsan make a full auto but i imagine the strength is cut down by the time you empty a magazine.

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« Reply #113 on: January 21, 2021, 10:42:33 PM »
@Betaphenylethylalamine

This is what I have and I absolutely love it.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/sd-ve


I didn't think I'd be able to afford a Smith and Wesson while being a broke grad student, but this ran me 350$ before tax and I was totally cool with that.

It is easy to clean, reliable, and could be used for concealed carry, but I would personally want something smaller. It doesn't have a safety, so I would not want to use it for CC for that reason as well. 

I read some comments online that the trigger pull is too difficult, but I think it is a load of crap.  It is a "self defense" model, so they did make the trigger pull more difficult than other guns, but it doesn't bother me at all.  Its like the difference between a 50mm and 51mm wheel IMO.

Looks like a great gun!

My only gripe would be the 9mm.

In fact I might go glock 23 just based on the .40

BUTTT, that all depends on supply etc when I arrive
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« Reply #114 on: January 22, 2021, 01:48:14 AM »
I only said that based on availability

So ideally, I'd take the glock 19 in a heartbeat if the 9mm rounds are plentiful in the area
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« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2021, 01:11:32 AM »
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I only said that based on availability

So ideally, I'd take the glock 19 in a heartbeat if the 9mm rounds are plentiful in the area
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Right on, I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything, just curious. After taking some courses and learning more, I've given a lot of thought to the efficacy of handguns and higher calibers.

No worries bro! You've been nothing but a massive help! I appreciate your insight
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« Reply #116 on: January 24, 2021, 12:21:01 PM »
i'm exceedingly giddy that this treacherous little brute is on it's way and should arrive at my friendly neighborhood FFL handling the transfer, on Wednesday...and since we've been talking about the old-timer Hickok45, here's him with it on "range 2"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRg-WFlyI5U

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« Reply #117 on: January 24, 2021, 01:00:08 PM »
i'm exceedingly giddy that this treacherous little brute is on it's way and should arrive at my friendly neighborhood FFL handling the transfer, on Wednesday...and since we've been talking about the old-timer Hickok45, here's him with it on "range 2"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRg-WFlyI5U

That looks fun! I'd be excited too!
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« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2021, 08:28:42 PM »
i like paul harrel vids. and the old man who makes a silencer out of a can from auto parts store.

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« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2021, 03:27:14 PM »
shot a 3 legged deer last week, spike buck (horns were long and straight so it's usually a cull deer to shoot that you don't want to breed)
with a remington r700 bolt action chambered in .270
The poor deer was old and so thin since he was hobbling around, it's better to go out wuickly than of starvation or a pack of coyotes.

Weirdest shot of my life, he and another buck were in the brush about 100+ yards out and could smell me due to the win so they wouldn't come out of cover. He was with a healthy young buck that I wouldn't be a shooter.
I couldn't see this deer for the life of me and it was about dusk. Luckily I had my dad spotting w binos cause the sun kept getting in the scope glass, I would see the deer for a split second then he would dip into the trees.
I finally got a good look at him and took the shot which i had very low confidence in due to the conditions, my weird ass sitting position, and time I spent lining up the shot. He was facing me head on and lifted up his head so I got him in the base of neck.

Sorry if this is too much, I used to HATE hunting but after spending years managing this land and bringing up a healthy population it feels good to eat meat you shot. My gf was complaining and I was like look you eat fast food daily, this deer died instantly and lived a good life. Those cows and chickens are living a way worse life
no, i live in an efficiency by myself and work in middle management like you, loser