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I want to ollie higher. Can you help an old guy out?
« on: September 09, 2020, 05:56:07 PM »
I'm old. Used to skate YEARS ago. My kid got me back into skating about a year ago. I'm LOVING it and having a blast. I'm trying to relearn some 25 year old skills and ollies are really challenging me. I'm about 50 % getting over my target stick which is a 1-1/2" strip off of a 2x4 and that has taken lots of work. I'm pretty lost as to where I'm failing. Even though I have the great advantage pf technology and slo mo I find that I don't know what I'm looking for.

If you've got some pointers I'd love to hear them. Thank you

https://youtu.be/EZCfMioe1xE
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Re: I want to ollie higher. Can you help an old guy out?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2020, 07:46:44 PM »
How is your fakie ollie?
I take everything I said back. The board hit me in the nuts for the first time ever today, because i was wearing these shits.

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2020, 09:31:44 PM »
Turn yourself twelve and ollie 500 times in an hour. Then get obsessed about ollies and only think, speak and dream about ollies.

You're fine just keep doing them

tic tac around that whole slab and then ollie. Get comfortable on your board. Find a quite smooth street and push for miles.

People like us have to work for it. I don't have the talent but I have the love

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2020, 09:57:14 PM »
Another three microns and youída soared right over that broomstick.  Get ready for the rush of a lifetime once you land it.

For what itís worth, hereís some things I saw:

-focus on getting a quick, solid pop

-suck your knees up towards your chest

-perhaps move your front foot back a scootch (or at least experiment with your front foot placement)

And what Ray said: if youíre another talentless scmuck like us, youíre probably going to have to put in ludicrous amounts of time to refine your technique.

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Re: I want to ollie higher. Can you help an old guy out?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 10:28:07 PM »
Another three microns and youída soared right over that broomstick.  Get ready for the rush of a lifetime once you land it.

For what itís worth, hereís some things I saw:

-focus on getting a quick, solid pop

-suck your knees up towards your chest

-perhaps move your front foot back a scootch (or at least experiment with your front foot placement)

And what Ray said: if youíre another talentless scmuck like us, youíre probably going to have to put in ludicrous amounts of time to refine your technique.

Speak for yourself! I once got a t-shirt from my local shop, making me a sponsored skater!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrOCMjotAuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZhMXWkPsWw&ab_channel=JustKeepSkating

These 2 videos are really helpful in point out some common. You look like you have a decent amount of pop, but the timing when the tail taps the ground, when you jump and when you drag needs some refinement. Like Ray said its going to take 100s of repetitions to get right. You look like you're going at it with enough speed, which tells me you're going at it with confidence which is a huge part of getting better.
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 11:08:24 PM »
Itís just practice, bro
One thing though, just regarding getting old tricks back, you gotta kick like, way harder than I remember
Stomp fuck out of that back foot mate

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 07:32:17 AM »
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Another three microns and youída soared right over that broomstick.  Get ready for the rush of a lifetime once you land it.

For what itís worth, hereís some things I saw:

-focus on getting a quick, solid pop

-suck your knees up towards your chest

-perhaps move your front foot back a scootch (or at least experiment with your front foot placement)

And what Ray said: if youíre another talentless scmuck like us, youíre probably going to have to put in ludicrous amounts of time to refine your technique.
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Speak for yourself! I once got a t-shirt from my local shop, making me a sponsored skater!

A million apologies for my thoughtless statement.

Although I once got a couple of speed rings for free but Iím trying not to get a big head about it.  Once you reach these upper echelons of the skate industry your horn just kinda toots itself, yíknow?

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 08:17:29 AM »

Although I once got a couple of speed rings for free but Iím trying not to get a big head about it.  Once you reach these upper echelons of the skate industry your horn just kinda toots itself, yíknow?
Gonna go down to the Bronx and hang out with the gonx

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 08:58:48 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrOCMjotAuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZhMXWkPsWw&ab_channel=JustKeepSkating

These 2 videos are really helpful in point out some common. You look like you have a decent amount of pop, but the timing when the tail taps the ground, when you jump and when you drag needs some refinement. Like Ray said its going to take 100s of repetitions to get right. You look like you're going at it with enough speed, which tells me you're going at it with confidence which is a huge part of getting better.
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Thanks. I love DeGros but had not seen those videos.

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Another three microns and youída soared right over that broomstick.  Get ready for the rush of a lifetime once you land it.

For what itís worth, hereís some things I saw:

-focus on getting a quick, solid pop

-suck your knees up towards your chest

-perhaps move your front foot back a scootch (or at least experiment with your front foot placement)

And what Ray said: if youíre another talentless scmuck like us, youíre probably going to have to put in ludicrous amounts of time to refine your technique.
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Thanks.

Funny thing is, before I started filming I cleared that broomstick about 8 times in a row. I might have used up all the pop in my legs for that session.

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 12:23:28 PM »
Your front foot slide really needs to go all the way up the nose and you need to kick it forward to level the board out. You could easily clear that 2x4 if you can just level the board out.

It also looks like you use your whole foot to pop when it's really more of an ankle snap. I recommend being more on your toes at the tip of the tail. Worth a try.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2020, 10:40:27 PM »
You don't lift up your backfoot at all. Your board obviously won't go any higher than you lift your legs. Once you suck up that back leg, extend your front foot up towards the nose to help your board follow.

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Re: I want to ollie higher. Can you help an old guy out?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2020, 11:07:29 PM »
You don't lift up your backfoot at all. Your board obviously won't go any higher than you lift your legs. Once you suck up that back leg, extend your front foot up towards the nose to help your board follow.

Any tips on lifting the back leg? I have years of bad muscle memory so I have lazy back leg syndrome. I can pop decently high but my ollies and flips rocket.
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2020, 09:32:45 AM »
Fakie ollie more. Warm up with those things and try to level it out methodically. Then try going forward again. Post your results.
I take everything I said back. The board hit me in the nuts for the first time ever today, because i was wearing these shits.

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2020, 05:36:54 PM »
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You don't lift up your backfoot at all. Your board obviously won't go any higher than you lift your legs. Once you suck up that back leg, extend your front foot up towards the nose to help your board follow.
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Any tips on lifting the back leg? I have years of bad muscle memory so I have lazy back leg syndrome. I can pop decently high but my ollies and flips rocket.

Practice off your board. I feel like a lot of people are trying to learn ollie when they can't really jump in general. Jump up on ledges and boxes, really sucking your knees up to your chest. I've always been jumping around and over stuff ever since I was a kid, and the result is 3 ft. ollies.

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2020, 06:02:26 PM »
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You don't lift up your backfoot at all. Your board obviously won't go any higher than you lift your legs. Once you suck up that back leg, extend your front foot up towards the nose to help your board follow.
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Any tips on lifting the back leg? I have years of bad muscle memory so I have lazy back leg syndrome. I can pop decently high but my ollies and flips rocket.
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Practice off your board. I feel like a lot of people are trying to learn ollie when they can't really jump in general. Jump up on ledges and boxes, really sucking your knees up to your chest. I've always been jumping around and over stuff ever since I was a kid, and the result is 3 ft. ollies.
That is great advice! I make sure to do this a few times a day. It's really fun and gets funny looks too, especially at work.
https://i.imgur.com/XkDVPAs.gifv
I know this isn't high, but I'm old and this is fakie  ;)
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2020, 11:19:57 AM »
Your front foot slide really needs to go all the way up the nose and you need to kick it forward to level the board out. You could easily clear that 2x4 if you can just level the board out.

It also looks like you use your whole foot to pop when it's really more of an ankle snap. I recommend being more on your toes at the tip of the tail. Worth a try.

Thanks. Great points. I had noticed that the board sort of just pops up in the front.
You don't lift up your backfoot at all. Your board obviously won't go any higher than you lift your legs. Once you suck up that back leg, extend your front foot up towards the nose to help your board follow.

Thanks.

Fakie ollie more. Warm up with those things and try to level it out methodically. Then try going forward again. Post your results.
I've never actually tried a fakie ollie. This might be just the ticket since it's something new to me maybe I won't approach it mentally assuming I know what I'm doing.


Thanks everyone.

Front foot needs to go more forward. Back foot needs to pop from the ankle and come up higher.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2020, 06:26:53 PM »
I canít offer much more than what others have suggested already. But I do want to point out that your third ollie looked really good. You just need to thrust your front foot forward to level out more after you slide up - and yes suck your back foot up with the board. You look pretty relaxed and squared and balanced over your board too. I think it will get better quick with more sessions and a few minor tweaks.



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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2020, 05:30:39 PM »
An ollie on flatground is how high you can jump off your back foot, full stop.


Obviously, there are serious issues with timing involved to make your board tag along for the ride and the more you practice the more ingrained that becomes but there isnít any more alchemy involved than that.

You didnít get high because you didnít jump high. It probably feels uncomfortable to hit the ground with the necessary force or maybe you get discombobulated when you jump higher, or maybe your front foot is too far forward and counteracting the effort of your back foot but ultimately you can get as high as your back foot can jump.

Try standing in front of a bench or something and jump on it but all your effort must come from your back leg and your back foot needs to land first on the  bench.

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2020, 04:24:28 PM »
Fakie ollie more. Warm up with those things and try to level it out methodically. Then try going forward again. Post your results.

I haven't been skating long, but why would a fakie ollie help with a regular one, or is it just a change up thing? I notice Some days I can fakie ollie better than regular lol.

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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2020, 07:14:00 PM »
Finally got some time to try out your suggestions.
Pull that back foot up ( see 0:18), slide that front foot fwd.
I like the Degros video suggestion about not hinging at the waist. I can see by these clips that I'm still doing that wrong but...

The first ollie over the stick starting at 0:40 was my best I've ever gotten on film. I swear I could have gotten up a curb with that. ( we won't talk about all the clips I deleted :-|  )

Anyways, All your suggestions gave me just the right things to think about and it really helped. Several ollies before I started filming felt really good after I got the body loosened up. Might have been able to stay at it longer but my Wednesday workout class left my legs a little sore today and this was all I had in me.

I see progress. I feel progress.
Thank you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKYZ_WiX2k

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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2020, 07:18:07 PM »
front foot back more, and that board looks too short for your legs.

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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2020, 11:30:41 PM »
If you pause it exactly at :44, that's about right were you wanna be except your front foot kinda dies off, if you can ninja kick that out a little more to level the board you would be good. I think the back foot will raise up naturally.

Getting onto and over actual stuff is the key to learning it quicker. Push yourself, keep stacking that wood up. Use your front foot and the nose of the board to pull those back wheels over the object.


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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2020, 07:04:58 AM »
Finally got some time to try out your suggestions.
Pull that back foot up ( see 0:18), slide that front foot fwd.
I like the Degros video suggestion about not hinging at the waist. I can see by these clips that I'm still doing that wrong but...

The first ollie over the stick starting at 0:40 was my best I've ever gotten on film. I swear I could have gotten up a curb with that. ( we won't talk about all the clips I deleted :-|  )

Anyways, All your suggestions gave me just the right things to think about and it really helped. Several ollies before I started filming felt really good after I got the body loosened up. Might have been able to stay at it longer but my Wednesday workout class left my legs a little sore today and this was all I had in me.

I see progress. I feel progress.
Thank you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKYZ_WiX2k

Looks good but you gotta concentrate more on smacking the shit out of your tail against the ground. The harder and more explosive you smack the tail against the ground, the higher and better the back end of your board will follow your back foot when you jump and suck your legs up. The front foot is just there to guide and level the board.

Unlike people often tell its not the drag of the front foot that makes your ollie high. Its the board bouncing off the tail. So make it bounce.

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2020, 07:41:03 PM »
Finally got some time to try out your suggestions.
Pull that back foot up ( see 0:18), slide that front foot fwd.
I like the Degros video suggestion about not hinging at the waist. I can see by these clips that I'm still doing that wrong but...

The first ollie over the stick starting at 0:40 was my best I've ever gotten on film. I swear I could have gotten up a curb with that. ( we won't talk about all the clips I deleted :-|  )

Anyways, All your suggestions gave me just the right things to think about and it really helped. Several ollies before I started filming felt really good after I got the body loosened up. Might have been able to stay at it longer but my Wednesday workout class left my legs a little sore today and this was all I had in me.

I see progress. I feel progress.
Thank you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKYZ_WiX2k

Keep us posted on the progress, my friend just got back to skating after 10 years and a bad ankle injury so he's focusing on skating switch (goofy). He managed to get a decent switch ollie, getting it level with a slight bone out. It's really in the timing and snapping a quick pop with your back foot.

I have this horrible habit of crouching down really low for my ollies, so while I pop really hard my dragging foot cannot keep up or level out sufficiently. I'm working to correct that by learning to pop lighter while bringing my front foot further up the board in preparation of my ollie.
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2020, 09:47:16 PM »
It sounds dumb but try holding onto something stationary.....you can use your arms a bit to buy you a little more time in the air and keep your balance....

The idea is to get the motion down of your back foot getting some height to be parallel or even higher than your front foot.  The way you're doing it now you're just trying to keep your shit together which is natural. It's sort of a rocking horse motion with your front foot coming up, than your back foot tries to go even higher...

It's looking good though!

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go watch a keith huf part and then smoke a blunt
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go watch a keith huf part and then smoke a blunt

No can do, watching the Huf Memory Screen made me both hyped to skate and empty inside.
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?

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go watch a keith huf part and then smoke a blunt
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No can do, watching the Huf Memory Screen made me both hyped to skate and empty inside.
feeling empty inside ----> skating ----> feeling full inside :D

Put some extra pop on it for my man
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go watch a keith huf part and then smoke a blunt
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No can do, watching the Huf Memory Screen made me both hyped to skate and empty inside.
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feeling empty inside ----> skating ----> feeling full inside :D

Put some extra pop on it for my man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Efj6JkXO8&ab_channel=HorkHunter
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?