Easily my favorite clutch shape, and one of my favorites from anywhere. They're kind of like a happy medium between the mellow quasi 8.25 and the steep FA/hockey shape. They can be difficult to track down but the ones I've had were hotel blue and coda. They're kind of short (my 8.25 is just over 31.5 and the 8.38 was about the same) but have a 14.25wb which is a plus for me but could be a problem if you don't like compact decks. If you find some other than coda/hotel blue then post them here, I'm always on the lookout for them