360 Flips

[Powdered Toast Man!]

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while I've landed a handful of 360 flips out of luck many years ago, I'm super fucking happy to say I'm super close to having them dialed down. I know im gonna explode of joy once I land one.
I'm at that point where I can do them sorta "easy" first try, but I have yet to put my back foot on the board.
For some reason I can't coordinate the flipping + the jumping.
Same thing with nollie heel flips/ kick flips and switch heels/ kick flips. One foot off and one foot on the board, dammit.
Fucking back foot!!

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landing front foot only is a common problem that stems from leaning back whilst putting too much pressure on your back foot, and not jumping properly up, but jumping sort of backwards

you want to have equal weight on both your feet at the beginning of the trick, transfer all the weight from the front foot to your back foot, scoop & jump straight up while sucking both your feet upwards. if you watch slow motion treflips, your back foot pretty much needs to dodge the board, but most people including myself dont think of it that way, we just bring our foot upwards

That makes sense, thanks! Will keep this in mind next sesh and keep ya posted:)
hang in there fellow frustrated tre flippers
we got dis

[IUTSM]

More and more upside down un-landings with both feet on. was not really considering POP in this trick

[switchfakie]

More and more upside down un-landings with both feet on. was not really considering POP in this trick

yeye, you just need to really pop harder to get more time for the board to finish its rotation

[frontsideNECKTIE]

I'm gonna read back through the thread to look for more pointers, but in the meantime....

I'm taking a BA-style approach, wider stance, heavy scoop, lumbering bigfoot style.

I'm so damn close to landing one. Flip is fairly consistent, as in the board fully rotates about 70% of the time, and I can visualize actually sticking it. The main issue is getting my front foot to follow through. Back foot finds the back bolts just about every time the trick works, and I stomp my front foot right next to the heelside front wheel on the ground - hard enough to hurt my knee lol

I've workshopped the trick into doing the thing, but putting the finisher on it it being a bastard. Is it a leap of faith to jump out and catch it, or will "the one" just randomly happen and it'll come around like nothing?

[Maccat]

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while I've landed a handful of 360 flips out of luck many years ago, I'm super fucking happy to say I'm super close to having them dialed down. I know im gonna explode of joy once I land one.
I'm at that point where I can do them sorta "easy" first try, but I have yet to put my back foot on the board.
For some reason I can't coordinate the flipping + the jumping.
Same thing with nollie heel flips/ kick flips and switch heels/ kick flips. One foot off and one foot on the board, dammit.
Fucking back foot!!

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landing front foot only is a common problem that stems from leaning back whilst putting too much pressure on your back foot, and not jumping properly up, but jumping sort of backwards

you want to have equal weight on both your feet at the beginning of the trick, transfer all the weight from the front foot to your back foot, scoop & jump straight up while sucking both your feet upwards. if you watch slow motion treflips, your back foot pretty much needs to dodge the board, but most people including myself dont think of it that way, we just bring our foot upwards

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That makes sense, thanks! Will keep this in mind next sesh and keep ya posted:)
hang in there fellow frustrated tre flippers
we got dis

This thread is the support group I never knew I needed. As a serial v flipper I would sacrifice everything if I could tre all day.

[behavioralguide]

I remember @silhouette saying something about ''loading'' the board which really helped me get them. but i cant find his comment, so ill just (attempt to) reiterate:

the trick is in what comes right before the popping

1. imagine a line tail to nose line that splits your board in two equal halves
2. back foot toes hanging off sligthly, front foot somewhere around the middle, on the other side of the line (on the heel side half), so you stand comfortably.
3. as you crouch to pop, try to break you board across this straight, tail-to-nose, line. This idea helped me to put pressure down while keeping weight centered.
4. upon popping/releasing/jumping the board will be sort of spring-loaded and flip much easier

[IUTSM]

somehow remember @silhouette saying something about ''loading'' the board which really helped me get them. but i cant find his comment, so ill just reiterate:

the trick is in what comes right before the popping

1. imagine a line tail to nose line that splits your board in two equal halves
2. back foot toes hanging off sligthly, front foot somewhere around the middle, on the other side of the line (on the heel side half), so you stand comfortably.
3. as you crouch to pop, try to break you board across this vertical line. This idea helped me to put pressure down while keeping weight centered.
4. upon popping/releasing/jumping the board will be sort of spring-loaded and flip much easier

Break it as in tear it in half, opposite directions!

[Urtripping]

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somehow remember @silhouette saying something about ''loading'' the board which really helped me get them. but i cant find his comment, so ill just reiterate:

the trick is in what comes right before the popping

1. imagine a line tail to nose line that splits your board in two equal halves
2. back foot toes hanging off sligthly, front foot somewhere around the middle, on the other side of the line (on the heel side half), so you stand comfortably.
3. as you crouch to pop, try to break you board across this vertical line. This idea helped me to put pressure down while keeping weight centered.
4. upon popping/releasing/jumping the board will be sort of spring-loaded and flip much easier

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Break it as in tear it in half, opposite directions!

This tip helped me get one after a 2 month hiatus. Thank you guys.

[silhouette]

Cool, solid one too!

[IUTSM]

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somehow remember @silhouette saying something about ''loading'' the board which really helped me get them. but i cant find his comment, so ill just reiterate:

the trick is in what comes right before the popping

1. imagine a line tail to nose line that splits your board in two equal halves
2. back foot toes hanging off sligthly, front foot somewhere around the middle, on the other side of the line (on the heel side half), so you stand comfortably.
3. as you crouch to pop, try to break you board across this vertical line. This idea helped me to put pressure down while keeping weight centered.
4. upon popping/releasing/jumping the board will be sort of spring-loaded and flip much easier

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Break it as in tear it in half, opposite directions!

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This tip helped me get one after a 2 month hiatus. Thank you guys.

Monster sized!!! Hell ya ji

[switchfakie]

I remember @silhouette saying something about ''loading'' the board which really helped me get them. but i cant find his comment, so ill just (attempt to) reiterate:

the trick is in what comes right before the popping

1. imagine a line tail to nose line that splits your board in two equal halves
2. back foot toes hanging off sligthly, front foot somewhere around the middle, on the other side of the line (on the heel side half), so you stand comfortably.
3. as you crouch to pop, try to break you board across this straight, tail-to-nose, line. This idea helped me to put pressure down while keeping weight centered.
4. upon popping/releasing/jumping the board will be sort of spring-loaded and flip much easier

i can already tre flip consistently, but damn straight, this sounds about exactly right wrt what i already do

[whale]

Set up a fresh board on the weekend decided to try to get all 4

https://imgur.io/gallery/JDH5Zrr

Switch one needs a lot of work..

[changed1]

The biggest thing when I’ve learned this trick in any stance is to pop then scoop. It’s been mentioned on here a bunch before and it really is the best tip to get perfect motion. Every time I miss it’s because I started scooping too soon and didn’t get a good enough pop first. Popping first gives a ton of leverage for the scoop

Wrapping the toes around the edge of the pocket as much as possible is also key for a good scoop.

Square up shoulders. Keep head over the middle of the board the entire trick. Head square between both shoulders

You need a good flick to guide the board. I personally stand on my toes a bit in the front foot rather than flat footed. Makes the flick easier for me but some people disagree. A good flick is only possible if you get a good pop (and scoop) first. Don’t put too much weight in the front foot during the set up though; the beginning of the trick is in the back foot 80%. In fact you’ll probably get ghost pop or flail around like an idiot if you have too much in your front foot

I think of this trick in 4 steps
Pop -> scoop -> flick -> land
I do them in that order.

My reasoning for that order:
I already explained above why I pop then scoop -leverage.
Next is the flick. If you flick (step 3) before popping or scooping (steps 1 & 2) the boards gonna do a 360 shuv with no kickflip rotation because the early slide start basically make getting a good scoop impossible because there’s already too much weight on the top of the board to flip at all. You probably wont even get a flick at all (it’ll be more like an ollie) because the board hasn’t popped enough yet (step 1) for it too meet your foot. That’s why popping is always the first step in this trick. The scoop (step 2) then makes the flick (step 3) way easier because the board is now rotating on an axis that makes the flick natural 
If you’ve squared up your shoulders and jumped right, the board should be perfectly under you for the land (step 4).

[corto]

Just an additional tip to what has been already said in this topic:

It helps a ton to pre-cock your 360 flip before snapping it by pressing hard on the corner/pocket of the tail and simultaneously with your front foot onto the edge of the board, so as to create as much tension into the deck as you can.

Then as you snap the tail and scoop you release the tension by flicking your front foot off the board to make the 360 flip rotation literally explode to your feet.

This really works to make the board spin+flip so much quicker, so I encourage everyone to try it

[frontsideNECKTIE]

Casting resurrection

I’ve read through this thread and have been making serious attempts to land this trick.

If you had one tip for landing it, what would that be? I feel like I can’t get any closer, and like I’m missing one final puzzle piece.
I don’t care if I get it on lock for now, I literally just want to land a single one

Video for reference

https://www.instagram.com/stories/washington.necktie/3362932319664708787?igsh=YjNkbDZ3c2QzZWt3

[Notyourmom]

Casting resurrection

I’ve read through this thread and have been making serious attempts to land this trick.

If you had one tip for landing it, what would that be? I feel like I can’t get any closer, and like I’m missing one final puzzle piece.
I don’t care if I get it on lock for now, I literally just want to land a single one

Video for reference

https://www.instagram.com/stories/washington.necktie/3362932319664708787?igsh=YjNkbDZ3c2QzZWt3

Attempt looked solid. Try to flip and scoop it a bit in front of you more. This way the board comes naturally to your front foot. Land a couple with with your front foot and the try to put the back foot on. You will feel the catch and then it’s time to put your back foot on.
Hope this makes sense 😅

[frontsideNECKTIE]

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Casting resurrection

I’ve read through this thread and have been making serious attempts to land this trick.

If you had one tip for landing it, what would that be? I feel like I can’t get any closer, and like I’m missing one final puzzle piece.
I don’t care if I get it on lock for now, I literally just want to land a single one

Video for reference

https://www.instagram.com/stories/washington.necktie/3362932319664708787?igsh=YjNkbDZ3c2QzZWt3

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Attempt looked solid. Try to flip and scoop it a bit in front of you more. This way the board comes naturally to your front foot. Land a couple with with your front foot and the try to put the back foot on. You will feel the catch and then it’s time to put your back foot on.
Hope this makes sense 😅

Yeah I feel what you mean. I gave it a couple more throws tonight and made an effort to get the front foot on. Happened a time or two.

Guess it’s just a matter of making it happen. It kicks my ass if I try a bunch of times but I want to get the reps in…. Aggravating…

[SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR]

Casting resurrection

I’ve read through this thread and have been making serious attempts to land this trick.

If you had one tip for landing it, what would that be? I feel like I can’t get any closer, and like I’m missing one final puzzle piece.
I don’t care if I get it on lock for now, I literally just want to land a single one

Video for reference

https://www.instagram.com/stories/washington.necktie/3362932319664708787?igsh=YjNkbDZ3c2QzZWt3

I watched the clip and what i noticed is that you scoop really hard for the trick and throw your back leg out, i did the same for the longest time and felt like it makes the trick a hail mary. My one advice would be to focus on popping first and then do the scoop. In my experience this makes the flip much more predictable.

[behavioralguide]

So close!
Lean back more, its hard to tell by the angle but it looks like your weight is above your front foot (middle of the board). Try to focus on having your weight centered between your two legs instead. It will automatically make it flip easier and propel it more forward.

[rocklobster]

The scoop and flick are looking on point, at this stage you can focus on refining the trick. What I mean by that is checking your head and shoulders, looks like you're pretty hunch over and beyond your toes as you're squatting down to pop / scoop. That will instinctively throw your body away from the board and your feet won't be able to catch the board since it's behind you.

Check your posture, keep your weight on the heelside of your board and your shoulders / head aligned + above the board before you pop / scoop.

You're almost there!

[Frank and Fred]

The one tip that brings them home for me is to focus on the back toe. Make sure the pop/ scoop makes contact with he ground after your legs are already crossed up. And put some English into that scoop. Its a power move. Everything else just tends to happen naturally.

[frontsideNECKTIE]

Thanks for the tips and confidence, gang!
I put maximum effort into workshopping them yesterday, so my legs are pretty done after full force stomping the concrete over and over.

Mostly sounds like I gotta square up and dial in my weight distribution.

Felt like my shoes might have been working against me a bit, the Rowan 2s are a fair bit bulkier compared to my usual Rowan vulcs or one stars. Hopefully the added board feel helps

[rocklobster]

Thanks for the tips and confidence, gang!
I put maximum effort into workshopping them yesterday, so my legs are pretty done after full force stomping the concrete over and over.

Mostly sounds like I gotta square up and dial in my weight distribution.

Felt like my shoes might have been working against me a bit, the Rowan 2s are a fair bit bulkier compared to my usual Rowan vulcs or one stars. Hopefully the added board feel helps

Don't let the gear madness get in the way and know when to take a break. Learning 360 flips can be really tiring, you're spending a lot more effort than is necessary. I try not to do more than 10 attempts in a row.

360 flips were really weird, when I started actually landing them I was still focusing on a hard scoop and flick, but messing around with them it's really not that.  I think @silhouette said it best - it's weight distribution and loading the board for a compression-release. Once you get that timing down they feel less technically demanding than a kickflip.