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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2020, 10:03:15 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2020, 02:56:04 PM »
I bit the bullet and early voted last Friday.

Polling place was right next to the skatepark room which was tight.

That being said, what ever it takes to stop fascism I’m going to do. Last week was voting, this week could possibly be insurrection, depending on tomorrow.

A lot of my family was killed in the Holocaust and we have to make sure that never happens again.



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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2020, 04:07:41 PM »
Play around with this if you want to make yourself sick:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2020-Electoral-Interactive-Map

I am betting the following:

Trump: Georgia, Florida, North and South Carolina and Arizona.

Biden: Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin and...

It comes down to Pennsylvania. Whoever wins PA will win the election which is why both Biden and Trump were in PA today.

Pennsylvania is Pittsburgh and Philadelphia  with Kentucky in the middle. The fact that Ohio is looking like a lock for Trump is frightening.

But...I believe Biden will win PA and go on to win 279 to 259.

Trump will win Texas also and the Senate will be split 50:50 to add to the partisanship across the country. Anyone else got a hot take?

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #93 on: November 02, 2020, 04:35:05 PM »
Play around with this if you want to make yourself sick:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2020-Electoral-Interactive-Map

I am betting the following:

Trump: Georgia, Florida, North and South Carolina and Arizona.

Biden: Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin and...

It comes down to Pennsylvania. Whoever wins PA will win the election which is why both Biden and Trump were in PA today.

Pennsylvania is Pittsburgh and Philadelphia  with Kentucky in the middle. The fact that Ohio is looking like a lock for Trump is frightening.

But...I believe Biden will win PA and go on to win 279 to 259.

Trump will win Texas also and the Senate will be split 50:50 to add to the partisanship across the country. Anyone else got a hot take?

I'm going to bet the same way I did in 2016 when I was completely wrong. Biden is going to win by a landslide and take Texas. Democrats will end up with 53 seats in the Senate. The polls will actually underestimate the Biden turnout this time.

I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but the amount of hatred towards Trump seems to be far greater this election, and Biden is much less disliked than Hillary. 

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2020, 05:05:59 PM »
Here's hoping that America votes out that monster Donald Trump tmrw and begins to right itself.
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2020, 11:33:46 PM »
I have no idea what is going to happen..

I was so shocked when Trump won last time.
I cant believe even those who did last time around could still support him. but they obviously do.
Will he lose this time? Will he refuse to go if he does? what then??

What will happen if he does win?!
I am worried about the influence and effects he will have on the world if he is in power for another 4 years.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2020, 03:39:34 AM »
I bet on Trump last time...

...I'm relatively confident Trump is going to lose this time around. I have a few right of center family members who are voting Biden (they certainly voted McCain/Palin and get sucked into right wing fear monger and lies on a regular basis). I'm hoping they are representative of a larger shift to Biden (and down ballot Democrats).

I think this shift will be temporary, but I think things will go blue this time around.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2020, 04:31:01 AM »
Good luck guys. Hope those of you who haven't voted yet, vote today.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2020, 04:50:41 AM »
I heard they are not handing out "I voted today" stickers.
Can anyone confirm this please, it might be a deal breaker for me.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #99 on: November 03, 2020, 05:02:32 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2020, 05:21:43 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2020, 06:36:12 AM »


This is a good video for those afraid of adopting some socialism. As an update the US is now 55 on the list for infant mortality. That’s only one statistic. If you look at the UNDP HDI reports we are awful at some pretty basic quality of life stats. I don’t want to get rid of the free market. I think capitalism can truly give the people the power to decide what they want in society but I also want companies and the rich to pay their due taxes and the government to use that money to help improve the life of the people. I can’t afford a tank to fight of other countries so the government provides an army. I can’t afford cancer treatment so I would like my government to provide protection with this too. Public roads and education are socialist ideas but who would say these are bad? They are beneficial to everyone to have a means of movement and basic education.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2020, 07:44:06 AM »


Been quoting this video for a couple years with my gf. Dude just likes to mess with his dad to get him all worked up.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2020, 07:44:56 AM »
Voted on the last day of early voting here in Texas. I’m cautiously optimistic Biden will win, but it’s getting pretty scary in Houston. Lotta trump trains rolling by the apartment lately. Shit is hectic, but I’m hoping we can push this country forward together.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2020, 07:49:12 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2020, 08:13:56 AM »
Been seeing more and more MAGA dorks in my area as of late. Lifted trucks and huge "no more bullshit" and "blue lives matter" flags hanging in their beds. Shit is sickening.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2020, 08:21:44 AM »
Portland is all boarded up. National Guard on Stand By. Biden signs were shot up close to my neighborhood the other night. American Democracy in 2020. Here we go.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2020, 08:23:57 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2020, 08:36:23 AM »
I've been looking at a lot of trump presidency economic analysis these past few days and it seems that before the pandemic, the usa were doing very well in economic terms. I've read that a new presidents reaps the benefits of his predecessor for a year (or even three) into his term, but still, by all accounts business was apparently booming.

This really goes against everything else I've read online in that period, so my only guess is that these economic gains were very badly distributed. I fully agree that trump is nothing more than a narcissistic piece of frozen diarrhea, but the stock market etc. loved him. Someone from the states cares to explain?

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2020, 08:37:35 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2020, 08:43:54 AM »
I've been looking at a lot of trump presidency economic analysis these past few days and it seems that before the pandemic, the usa were doing very well in economic terms. I've read that a new presidents reaps the benefits of his predecessor for a year (or even three) into his term, but still, by all accounts business was apparently booming.

This really goes against everything else I've read online in that period, so my only guess is that these economic gains were very badly distributed. I fully agree that trump is nothing more than a narcissistic piece of frozen diarrhea, but the stock market etc. loved him. Someone from the states cares to explain?

Pretty sure the stock market loves him because he made massive corporate tax cuts. He also took away every possible environmental regulation he could that was potentially harming corporations. The stock market loves him, but everything he is doing is short-sighted and, as you suggest, benefits people that are already rich, including himself.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #111 on: November 03, 2020, 08:52:32 AM »
I've been looking at a lot of trump presidency economic analysis these past few days and it seems that before the pandemic, the usa were doing very well in economic terms. I've read that a new presidents reaps the benefits of his predecessor for a year (or even three) into his term, but still, by all accounts business was apparently booming.

This really goes against everything else I've read online in that period, so my only guess is that these economic gains were very badly distributed. I fully agree that trump is nothing more than a narcissistic piece of frozen diarrhea, but the stock market etc. loved him. Someone from the states cares to explain?

The stock market isn’t an indicator of the average American. Wealth inequality continues to rise in the US. Both middle class and lower class average income continues to drop while upper class income continues to rise. Trump is helping the top 5-10%. A lot of republicans still believe in trickle down economics which may have existed at one point but someone like Jeff Bezos has taken more money out of the economy than he could ever spend and put back in. The top tier incomes typically hoard their money over seas so helping them is really just taking money away from everyone else.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2020, 09:08:28 AM »
Yeah sure, income inequality came to mind first. But then, the percentage of people below the poverty line has also been dropping steadily, so what other metric is there that could convey the accurate picture for the wellbeing of the average american?

What are you personal experiences? Were you better off in 2019 than in 2016?

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2020, 09:09:17 AM »
Been seeing more and more MAGA dorks in my area as of late. Lifted trucks and huge "no more bullshit" and "blue lives matter" flags hanging in their beds. Shit is sickening.

I wonder if blue lives will still matter to them if Trump loses and they take to the streets with their assault rifles and their opponents are actually the police...

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2020, 09:24:27 AM »
Yeah sure, income inequality came to mind first. But then, the percentage of people below the poverty line has also been dropping steadily, so what other metric is there that could convey the accurate picture for the wellbeing of the average american?

What are you personal experiences? Were you better off in 2019 than in 2016?

A lot of these people no longer under the poverty line are working 2-3 jobs to make rent. So, yeah, they aren’t impoverished technically but they are burning themselves out. Nobody should have to do that.
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #115 on: November 03, 2020, 09:30:56 AM »
Yeah sure, income inequality came to mind first. But then, the percentage of people below the poverty line has also been dropping steadily, so what other metric is there that could convey the accurate picture for the wellbeing of the average american?

What are you personal experiences? Were you better off in 2019 than in 2016?

Poverty level is a tough statistic to use as it is not adjusted for rise in cost of living. Poverty level has been declining for years before trump to office so it doesn’t really indicate people are better off. It is still based on the cost of meals from 1963 (there is adjustment for inflation but inflation and cost of living are not linear).

I think HDI is a good representation to look at for general welfare. The HDI has continued to grow but not at the rate that is has for other countries. The US is no longer in the top 10 most developed countries. By contrast, we used to sit in the top 5 and now we are 15th. 

For me personally, I am making more now but mainly because I’m older and finished my education. I will say though that I have chronic stomach issues but I cannot afford to figure out the cause. I got a gastroenterostomy and had to pay $2,000 out of pocket to hear that I needed an MRI next which would cost more. So I would be much better off if we had free healthcare and I could get preventative care.

I’m also not down with deregulation that harms the environment and the amount that the trump administration has pumped into coal and fossil fuel. Those industries growing aren’t worth killing the planet.

I feel weird saying so much about politics because I am generally super moderate and politically apathetic   

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2020, 10:42:14 AM »
Yeah sure, income inequality came to mind first. But then, the percentage of people below the poverty line has also been dropping steadily, so what other metric is there that could convey the accurate picture for the wellbeing of the average american?

What are you personal experiences? Were you better off in 2019 than in 2016?

Can you send the analysis you are looking at? You are in Slovenia correct?

Interested in what you are seeing.

Keep in mind that economic analysis also has a bias.

I like to follow Paul Krugman even though he has a liberal bias. That is mainly because I was raised in a liberal house much like someone raised as a Catholic and so forth.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2020, 11:08:38 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #118 on: November 03, 2020, 11:12:07 AM »
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #119 on: November 03, 2020, 11:19:13 AM »
For the past 9.5 years my job has been probably the one job where you are in most contact with people in poverty and seeing first hand their situation/finances. I haven't noticed any change besides when I first started in 2011 and the economy was still fucked, that was gnarly how busy we were, but by around 2014 that phase was kind of gone. From my perspective things have not changed in that time. I don't have a bunch of people who now have great jobs. It's the same shit. Actually things will be slightly worse because new requirements have been put in place for people who need assistance. The only reason it hasn't had as much of an effect is because when everything happened this year they put in place a lot of waivers because they had no choice. Those are still set to take effect here soon but they have been extending waivers.

The only reason I am doing any better is because I get annual raises and moved home because it was too hard to make it on my own. Nothing the president has done has made it better for people in need, at least from my view as a "1st line worker" for that kind of thing. More hurdles have actually been added and the only reason they haven't played out is because the pandemic keeps putting the changes out a couple months.

When I'm finally out of this job in a few days I can talk more openly/directly about all that.