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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2020, 11:52:15 AM »
I'm cautiously optimistic this Cheeto cunt is out.

The way some people vehemently defend him, his policies, antics and complete lack of even an ounce of integrity/decency/honesty/values/empathy/selflessness, etc. baffles me. I feel like I've learned so much about people I thought I knew in the past four years (really just in the past few months).

Social media was always going to help bring us down, but 45 and covid drastically accelerated the process. People are just "so woke" now, peddling their QAnon/disinformation bullshit as fact. The irony of the duped preaching to rest that they're sheep...

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2020, 12:04:52 PM »
Sorry guys, I know this is a reddit link and I dont know how to save and post the video here, but this is a good indication that trump supporters live in a cult.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jjfiek/trump_supporters_intimidating_voters/


Again, sorry for the reddit link, but I couldnt let this NOT be shared.

I also wondered how in the fuck hitler rose to power. Now I get it.
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2020, 02:28:25 PM »
For the ten people (as of publication) that said they were down with trump, honest question, can you explain to me why?
Are you pleased with his overall performance?
What do you hope to see from him if re-elected?

I’m not going to try to change your mind, genuinely want to understand what the thinking is.
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2020, 12:46:45 AM »
LMAO, lil wayne supporting trump https://imgur.com/gallery/nag0x0z

and there I was thinking that there could be no bigger idiot than kanye

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2020, 10:36:06 AM »
LMAO, lil wayne supporting trump https://imgur.com/gallery/nag0x0z

and there I was thinking that there could be no bigger idiot than kanye

Damn, I could of sworn Lil' Wayne wasn't this stupid, but he is pretty oblivious to the world around him.

"[Lil Wayne] clarifies that political activism isn't necessarily something we should expect from him: "I'm not that. And honestly, I don’t care."
https://www.thefader.com/2020/10/30/albums-stream-ariana-grande-positions-oneohtrix-point-never-trippe-redd-dizzee-rascal

"[Lil Wayne] said... that his diverse fan base shows that racism "does not exist."
(I read this as Lil' Wayne saying, "White people watched minstrel shows, so racism couldn't have ever been a thing."

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/295907-lil-wayne-ive-never-dealt-with-racism

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lil-wayne-on-black-lives-matter-what-is-it-110463/

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2020, 01:38:07 PM »
Damn that sucks lil wayne doesn't believe in climate change :( I don't really listen to his shit anyways

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2020, 04:14:17 PM »
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Already getting notices to not expect to hear a result the morning after election day. Thoughts on how long this could draw out?
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Until the supreme court gives him what he wants.

for real. I feel like this last vote, supporting 2 states rights to count mail in votes after 3 Nov, could be a scam to shut people up a bit. I remember Bush V Gore and all that shit, Supreme Court is not an arbiter of fair elections
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #67 on: October 31, 2020, 06:44:43 AM »
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Already getting notices to not expect to hear a result the morning after election day. Thoughts on how long this could draw out?
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Until the supreme court gives him what he wants.
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for real. I feel like this last vote, supporting 2 states rights to count mail in votes after 3 Nov, could be a scam to shut people up a bit. I remember Bush V Gore and all that shit, Supreme Court is not an arbiter of fair elections


PA and MI (WI?) aren’t permitted to begin processing mail in ballots until Election Day. PA doesn’t have the manpower or infrastructure to process the more than 600,000 ballots expected by the close of Election Day so it will not have a result for several days.

What could happen is that the Trump campaign starts filing lawsuits to gum up the process, strike votes where the signature doesn’t match perfectly, etc. Or maybe Trump says, “hey, I was winning on election night, now Philadelphia is stealing the election. Maybe some real American patriots from upstate should go down and help out [with guns]”.

The whole thing gives me anxiety.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #68 on: October 31, 2020, 07:49:46 AM »
I'm proud to say ive never voted and never will, statism is slavery. Fuck the government

Its easy to not ever vote when you're barely able to vote - clearly a kid writing this.  Or an adult who has barely progressed passed broke skate rat kid.  You aren't a rebel bud, you are ignorant.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2020, 07:59:14 AM »
There's ones of adult shit which is really hard to do like buy a house, eat oatmeal all the time....but voting is super easy....mail one in or mask the fuck up and get in there....

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2020, 08:02:08 AM »
Maybe I don't fully understand the facts, but why are all these states changing their regulations about mail-in ballots or early voting? It's almost as though there's an intentional confusion to deter voters and make them work harder.

It shouldn't be that hard to let votes come in. Can't a vote just be a vote? Can't a ballot just be accepted?

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2020, 08:20:09 AM »
Both sides are the same. We need to build the party to get out of this hell

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2020, 11:31:28 AM »
 Socialist comunist left or trumps bigotry  yeah were fucked either way .

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2020, 11:39:10 AM »
Maybe I don't fully understand the facts, but why are all these states changing their regulations about mail-in ballots or early voting? It's almost as though there's an intentional confusion to deter voters and make them work harder.

It shouldn't be that hard to let votes come in. Can't a vote just be a vote? Can't a ballot just be accepted?

You seem to understand the facts- the states are most certainly changing regulations within a month before the election with the intention of invalidating votes and confusing voters. The Right establishment very much understands that if the majority of American people are able to vote, the Right will lose official power, hence extreme, partisan, racist voting rules. It's very, very fucked up
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2020, 01:57:33 PM »
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Maybe I don't fully understand the facts, but why are all these states changing their regulations about mail-in ballots or early voting? It's almost as though there's an intentional confusion to deter voters and make them work harder.

It shouldn't be that hard to let votes come in. Can't a vote just be a vote? Can't a ballot just be accepted?
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You seem to understand the facts- the states are most certainly changing regulations within a month before the election with the intention of invalidating votes and confusing voters. The Right establishment very much understands that if the majority of American people are able to vote, the Right will lose official power, hence extreme, partisan, racist voting rules. It's very, very fucked up

Awful.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2020, 04:03:42 PM »
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Maybe I don't fully understand the facts, but why are all these states changing their regulations about mail-in ballots or early voting? It's almost as though there's an intentional confusion to deter voters and make them work harder.

It shouldn't be that hard to let votes come in. Can't a vote just be a vote? Can't a ballot just be accepted?
[close]

You seem to understand the facts- the states are most certainly changing regulations within a month before the election with the intention of invalidating votes and confusing voters. The Right establishment very much understands that if the majority of American people are able to vote, the Right will lose official power, hence extreme, partisan, racist voting rules. It's very, very fucked up
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Awful.

yeah, it's fucked up and quite scary. A caravan of armed Trump supporters in Texas just tried to run Biden/Harris bus off the road, blocking them from getting to a rally. The Biden/Harris group cancelled their appearance due to this intimidation. It's becoming more and more mind bending to see regular Americans carrying long guns in the street as a form of intimidation. I don't know what's going on anymore
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2020, 04:42:35 PM »
Socialist comunist left or trumps bigotry  yeah were fucked either way .

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2020, 05:03:04 PM »
Trump is scum, no doubt. That said, how is Biden in anyway better? Have you seen his history as a politician? He helped author the crime bill that disproportionally put young black men in prisons. I'm supposed to think he's the better option? No thanks. Trump sucks; Biden sucks just as much. The difference between the two is that Biden has a crew of PR people writing down everything he says to not offend easily manipulated people.

I won't be voting for either of those scum bags.
 


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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2020, 07:38:53 PM »

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2020, 07:47:06 PM »
Trump is scum, no doubt. That said, how is Biden in anyway better? Have you seen his history as a politician? He helped author the crime bill that disproportionally put young black men in prisons. I'm supposed to think he's the better option? No thanks. Trump sucks; Biden sucks just as much. The difference between the two is that Biden has a crew of PR people writing down everything he says to not offend easily manipulated people.

I won't be voting for either of those scum bags.

Bro, I agree that Biden is pretty damn wack, but man, he's not encouraging race based civil war. He hasn't declared C19 a hoax. He isn't supporting violent fascists. What else is there to say?
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2020, 08:46:03 PM »
Gibberish

Get the fuck out here with this (false) equivalence bullshit.

This, "they're both bad unless they are both as pure as snow" is bullshit. It is sad way to rationalize not standing up against an obvious corrupt monster who is purposefully destabilizing the United States (and creating policies that will put us all at risk for generations).

Moreover, it is the same as saying, a board with dirty grip is equal to one that is waterlogged, has broken bearings, only has three wheels, has Phantom trucks, and is delaminating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/opinion/trump-republican-party-authoritarianism.html
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/


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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2020, 09:17:49 PM »
Trump is scum, no doubt. That said, how is Biden in anyway better? Have you seen his history as a politician? He helped author the crime bill that disproportionally put young black men in prisons. I'm supposed to think he's the better option? No thanks. Trump sucks; Biden sucks just as much. The difference between the two is that Biden has a crew of PR people writing down everything he says to not offend easily manipulated people.

I won't be voting for either of those scum bags.

That was over 25 years ago and he has since admitted it was a mistake.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2020, 03:49:16 AM »
Both sides are the same.

You aren't paying enough attention

Socialist comunist left or trumps bigotry  yeah were fucked either way .

LOL how is Joe Biden a fucking communist
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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2020, 05:22:17 AM »
LOL @ Biden being a “socialist communist”. I wish Biden and  the Democratic Party was as radically left as Republicans think they are. A decade ago Biden would be considered center-right. The problem is the current Republican Party has gone off the rails these past 4 years into full blown Far-Right ideology, that Biden looks “liberal”.

Biden isn’t the ideal candidate (but then again there is no such thing as the perfect politician), but at least Biden is actually qualified for the job, and will appoint a qualified cabinet.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #84 on: November 01, 2020, 07:02:27 AM »
Socialist comunist left or trumps bigotry  yeah were fucked either way .

A lot of people who don’t really understand these -isms love to throw them around and conflate the two.

Living in a socialist democracy is a lot like living in America except wage disparity is low, healthcare is free for children and astonishingly affordable as an adult*, same for dental care, education is equitable and free, government corruption is kept in check, infrastructure is maintained, and overall quality of life is higher because everyone earns a comfortable living wage and no one gets kicked to the street if they lose their job.

Drawback: you will pay more in taxes, but the net gains on that compared with capitalism skew positive when you consider how much has to be paid out for education, healthcare, etc.


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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #85 on: November 01, 2020, 07:18:13 AM »
It's so amazing to me to still see such wacky opinions when there is a wealth of information literally at your fingertips.

You can learn critical thinking. Unbiased facts can be unearthed.

I know it's easy to look at a meme and believe it. Do you know what they were called when it was in a printed form? Propaganda. Just look at the posters from WWII.

It's much more difficult, but it is also your civic duty as a citizen of your respective country to be knowledgeable enough to know how to make an informed decision. Not uninformed. Not misinformed. From that truly informed opinion, vote for the candidate that aligns the closest.

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« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2020, 07:36:32 AM »
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Socialist comunist left or trumps bigotry  yeah were fucked either way .
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A lot of people who don’t really understand these -isms love to throw them around and conflate the two.

Living in a socialist democracy is a lot like living in America except wage disparity is low, healthcare is free for children and astonishingly affordable as an adult*, same for dental care, education is equitable and free, government corruption is kept in check, infrastructure is maintained, and overall quality of life is higher because everyone earns a comfortable living wage and no one gets kicked to the street if they lose their job.

Drawback: you will pay more in taxes, but the net gains on that compared with capitalism skew positive when you consider how much has to be paid out for education, healthcare, etc.


*No, lines aren’t long and you will get expedited depending on severity of your symptoms
Since most of us are below the $400,000 a year income that Biden is proposing to tax higher (and only the amount exceeding that would be taxed higher), we would not see any higher taxes. I know this is an op-ed piece, but there is a graph showing how much less the wealthiest have been paying less over time as they have gotten richer.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/income-tax-rate-wealthy.html

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Re: Biden vs Trump
« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2020, 07:48:56 AM »
what's almost hilarious about this election is that some basement dweller on 4chan who made up some pretty far out concepts is now basically a political force.

i doubt that this election will turn out good regardless of who wins. the 2 party system in the us really needs to change.

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Re: Biden vs Trump
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Re: Biden vs Trump
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