Richest and Poorest Pros

[Big_Dingus]

Mikey setting some goalz today! Wow, guys I'm inspired to start dressing shittier and hang out with people poorer than me!

This guy has made money his whole life/personality and thats just really gotta suck...like deep down inside. I feel bad for him.

[manysnakes]

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I just discovered Celebrity Net Worth dot com and some of the answers are interesting.

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One of my best friends is a fairly successful musician, and Celebrity Net Worth says he's worth like $2m last I checked. He's a bartender who gets $1.02 checks from Spotify. Nothing on that site should be taken seriously.

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I'm not doubting what you're saying, just genuinely curious: your friend is a successful musician in the sense of being signed with a major label and being a name people would recognize?  I'm just trying to gauge those $1.02 checks.

They’re not signed anymore, afaik. For his privacy and mine I won’t name the band, but they were pretty huge during the mid-aughts emo explosion and I suspect a significant number of people here know them from their teen years and because they had at least one song in a Tony Hawk game.

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I just discovered Celebrity Net Worth dot com and some of the answers are interesting.

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One of my best friends is a fairly successful musician, and Celebrity Net Worth says he's worth like $2m last I checked. He's a bartender who gets $1.02 checks from Spotify. Nothing on that site should be taken seriously.

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I'm not doubting what you're saying, just genuinely curious: your friend is a successful musician in the sense of being signed with a major label and being a name people would recognize?  I'm just trying to gauge those $1.02 checks.

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If you get half a million streams on Spotify the payout is $2k. Source:
https://dittomusic.com/en/blog/how-much-do-music-streaming-services-pay-musicians/
Depending on what your label deal is, and if you have a manager or not, you're maybe seeing 55% of that.
The only way to make money in music is playing shows.

Then split that between 3-5 band members, the label and management.

[DirtyCheddarKids]

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Being a Vans Euro TM must pay pretty well for Pfanner to support a family with a baller house and cars in Germany.

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It's Germany = housing and (German) cars are cheap, and to get a house loan you only need 10-20% of the total investment. Plus, kindergarten is mostly paid by taxes so his wife can be working 100% and contribute.

Germany has the second lowest share of homeowners of all OECD countries, so it depends. Renting can be pretty affordable compared to income and overall living expenses, but buying / building is a whole nother story. Stoked to see him doing so well.

[lemonchicken91]

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As has been said on here somewhere, a long time ago Dyrdek predicted that there would come a day when there would be a handful of pros making giant money, and everybody else would be working at the gas station yelling, "you have to pay first" at customers.  Mountain dew hats and red bull stickers became the only other way, which was still way better than just about any generation before them.  There was a sweet spot time for getting your own shoe instead of just a color way.  Birdman said the next collapse will never bring the skate economy as low as it used to be.  Is he right?

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The collapse was 2019 lol, do you know how bad skating was doing from like 2014ish-2019 lol? It was fucking brutal compared to the period prior. the Covid bubble and Dunk explosion revived the whole damn thing. Skateboarding is about to change like it did when Rocco took over. the cool guys became the monopolies, and now the market will organically correct itself like it always has. All the washed up 80s vert guys of yesteryear have now transformed into the bitter 90s and 2000s cool guys. Everyone always looked at those older dudes at the park with the pool boards as being out of place with today's times. Covid and shit has basically said hey nobody fucking currently is with today's times, we are about to enter the wild west again like the early to mid 90s from the collapse of the big 5. Now these companies can be bitter like George was in those days, or adapt and learn like how he did with all the ways he approached the market afterwards like bones wheels, and pricepoint stuff. Just wait, skateboarding from 2020-2025 will change more than it has in 30 years.

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I appreciate the insights Gregg.  I hadn't thought about some of that.

Interesting also that George is still here doing his company his way, apparently profitably (Skateone), while many of his early 90s detractors are gone, and some of those brands that buried Powell back then are today an even bigger joke than George ever was.

Many, not just collapsatarianists, have been rooting for Return of Rocco or some form of it, but if it's happened I slept through it.

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Exactly, It was bound to happen, but people thought it was like dill and shit in the early 2010s lol. Dill was just a rehash of what Rocco did. Rocco was a visionary, a true maverick who was not the best skateboarder ever, but changed the industry singlehandedly more than anyone has with a flick of his wrist because he knew the industry well enough, and he had perfect conditions to do it. Most people 1. aren't that much of a visionary or maverick, or 2. the circumstances are not correct. I'm gonna let Slap in on the know of something here, I'm gonna drop some real secretive knowledge a lot of people don't know right now. Before Rocco made world he approached George after getting fired by Dorfman, this is the untold part of the Rocco Story that is the most crucially missed piece in the history of skating outside of the origin of street because nobody wants this knowledge to be known. George would not take Rocco, and that right there changed history. You guys know that scene from the last dance where michael jordan says, "and then I took it personal"? Rocco took it personal and told George too his face "you know what, i'm going to run you and Dorfman out of fucking business then". George could have owned the 90s, but his hubris got the better of him. I think he realized not to be closed minded quite quickly after the collapse of the bones brigade to keep his company going and his employees employed. The next Rocco is whoever fucking capitalizes right here right now. If someone does not take the power during this window it will close, and either we run into full blown revive kookery or the cool guys die out in size with the strongest surviving but having to change to a more revive model. Again that can't be just anybody, but there is a select group of guys if they had a maverick guy like Rocco who could do it. I thought of this around 2010, and always figured skateboarding would hit a singularity where this occured, but I thought it was 50 years from now, Covid sped that shit up real fucking quick. Olympics is going to compound the corona bubble too, shits going to fucking change.

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And the nominees are...?

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Well around 2015-2016 I wanted to start a new board company, there was something extremely unique about it I'm not gonna reveal on here, but what I will tell you is the basis of what would be different not the secret sauce. My theory was what if you branded skateboarders like reality TV stars, but guys that were actually fucking interesting off the board. Then you say how you make that "cool" cuz u know it is skating. Well my thought was what if it was like a youtube/instagram channel/platform dedicated to like a GQ version of skating. Like pick interesting people, and not just document their skateboarding but also their lifestyle. Modern day animal fucking chin. Lifestyle is what sells because people want to be like that dude, not just skate like that dude. The idea was pick older guys unlike how Dill, Stacy, and Rocco did it. Like guys who were already developed at 18-20 nobody ever fucking heard of(cuz america is chock full of them). who are above and beyond FAR more interesting people than currently in skating, maybe not better skaters, but on par, who were so much more fucking interesting. You can see especially with different demographics it's easy to integrate this model for any type of motherfucking branding u want. that's the beauty. See I have been thinking about this problem since 2010, the day of the coyote and roadrunners has been on the horizon for a minute(that's a style of business model), just like it was in the rocco days. I have had discussions about these very things with industry people dating back to at least 2005. Reason I never started the company is because the market was saturated, and the conditions were not right. Now I make too much money to be bothered with skating unless someone threw something real in my face, so I have no idea to be honest with you.

I just DMed weck for you
And neen

We put them in charge. The ying and the yang

And mikey taylor and biebel will come in as life coaches

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I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere, it's a couple years old, but Mikey Taylor is loaded, and New Haven is a witness


https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/How-This-Professional-Skateboarder-Built-His-13597635.php

[Jud Nestorkins]

Jereme Rogers said that in his Prime he was getting 3k a month from girl and 10K a month from red bull.



Anyway, don't know if the Chief was mentioned but fuck he's loaded!


https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/skateboarders/jamie-thomas-net-worth/

[cky enthusiast]

I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere, it's a couple years old, but Mikey Taylor is loaded, and New Haven is a witness


https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/How-This-Professional-Skateboarder-Built-His-13597635.php

idk if it counts when the new haven local writes about how rich you are, my guess is he has as much money as a guy who owns a series of car dealerships because those are the richest people you can meet up there

[Swithflip]

Jereme Rogers said that in his Prime he was getting 3k a month from girl and 10K a month from red bull.



Anyway, don't know if the Chief was mentioned but fuck he's loaded!


https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/skateboarders/jamie-thomas-net-worth/

I wonder how much Torey and Felipe is making from redbull, if Jcass ws getting 10 1 decade ago.

[Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace]

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I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere, it's a couple years old, but Mikey Taylor is loaded, and New Haven is a witness


https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/How-This-Professional-Skateboarder-Built-His-13597635.php

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idk if it counts when the new haven local writes about how rich you are, my guess is he has as much money as a guy who owns a series of car dealerships because those are the richest people you can meet up there

These celebrity net worth pages are really inaccurate. However, I can see Jamie being wealthy as he's basically owned or had a heavy stake in every company he rode for and they all had pretty long runs of being successful. Zero has been around for nearly 30 years. Might also still be getting a few bucks from Toy Machine as well since he was one of the founders.

[excitableboy]

Surely the chief tithes so we must account for that also.

[SFblah]

Was Ramondetta mentioned for richest crew? He ghosted the industry after a return on a very good real estate investment.

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Puleo doesn't come across like he's rich, but if people buy his art for as much as he's charging for it, then he is not one of the poorest pros.

Plus he knows where the ark of the covenant is located, so that helps financially as well.

[cool spot]

Was Ramondetta mentioned for richest crew? He ghosted the industry after a return on a very good real estate investment.

I've never heard this and want to know more.

Seeing Double is the best video Real ever put out, fight me.

[Tear Up a Trick]

Skateboarding is a __________ billion dollar a year industry?  Anybody know?

According to this article the answer is less than two.

And that includes longboards?

https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/skateboard-market

[Pete]

Was Ramondetta mentioned for richest crew? He ghosted the industry after a return on a very good real estate investment.

is this true? if so then than good for him man dude was one of my favorites for a long time. always wondered why he straight ghosted after quitting/ retiring. i fuck with that




free max b

[Idk]

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Was Ramondetta mentioned for richest crew? He ghosted the industry after a return on a very good real estate investment.

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is this true? if so then than good for him man dude was one of my favorites for a long time. always wondered why he straight ghosted after quitting/ retiring. i fuck with that




free max b

He deserves it. But I did read he went back to Oklahoma.

[Lou Strux]

Rich-pro, poor-pro, beggar-pro, thief.

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After watching this I think Lutzka has got to be way higher up the list than I realized.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=JLEGznLCrb8

[Tear Up a Trick]

Finally, here is an article with the facts and documentation.  The 20 richest skateboarders in the world in 2021 are listed here.  Are you surprised by anybody on / of the list?  (Note: was updated in June 2021 from an original published in 2017).  These are facts people

https://www.slice.ca/the-20-wealthiest-skateboarders-in-the-world-2017-edition/

[radcunt]

Janoski

Fred Gall

[Grind King Rims]

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Was Ramondetta mentioned for richest crew? He ghosted the industry after a return on a very good real estate investment.

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I've never heard this and want to know more.

Seeing Double is the best video Real ever put out, fight me.

I'm very curious to find out if this is true.

I remember Ramondetta being very hyped around the time of Skate More and Roll Forever. He was on a tear.

Edit: Somehow convinced myself Ramondetta was in Skate More but I guess I was thinking of Circa It's Time

[lampshade]

Jereme Rogers said that in his Prime he was getting 3k a month from girl and 10K a month from red bull.

Then you have to add all that Magnum money to that. 

[manysnakes]

Finally, here is an article with the facts and documentation.  The 20 richest skateboarders in the world in 2021 are listed here.  Are you surprised by anybody on / of the list?  (Note: was updated in June 2021 from an original published in 2017).  These are facts people

https://www.slice.ca/the-20-wealthiest-skateboarders-in-the-world-2017-edition/

This list presents absolutely no facts or documentation. Whoever wrote this probably just aggregated the names of famous skaters from one of those celebrity net worth website in order to create a flimsy, clickbait article to drive traffic to whatever the hell “slice.ca” is (a listacle site, from the looks of it).

There’s nothing new here at all and no one should bother clicking that link.

[SR ACF]

Curren Caples has $$$$$$ his dad was a pro surfer and his mom still does porn I believe

That would've been so awesome if true. But alas

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Curren Caples has $$$$$$ his dad was a pro surfer and his mom still does porn I believe

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That would've been so awesome if true. But alas

Skateboarding is so weird.  Not a big Curren fan.  I know about his dad because I surf a bit, but not going to Google, "Curren Caples mom porn."  Is she hot?

[ChrisSennsGirlfriend]

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I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere, it's a couple years old, but Mikey Taylor is loaded, and New Haven is a witness


https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/How-This-Professional-Skateboarder-Built-His-13597635.php

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idk if it counts when the new haven local writes about how rich you are, my guess is he has as much money as a guy who owns a series of car dealerships because those are the richest people you can meet up there

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These celebrity net worth pages are really inaccurate. However, I can see Jamie being wealthy as he's basically owned or had a heavy stake in every company he rode for and they all had pretty long runs of being successful. Zero has been around for nearly 30 years. Might also still be getting a few bucks from Toy Machine as well since he was one of the founders.

he and his companies were looking great in like 2006 but didn't he completely eat shit by 1) not turning it into a payday by selling fallen for a substantial profit when still in a position to do so, and then 2) waiting too long to shut it down when it was no longer profitable?  i thought scenario went from a multi-million $ come up to 'we're just not going to do this anymore.. because we literally cannot.'

not trying to talk shit or pile on (not being sarcastic when i say i think it's cool he kept his stuff skater owned until it fizzled into oblivion! props.) but i thought the common knowledge/conventional wisdom was that there was a window where he had a chance to make janoski bucks for himself through the footwear market, but he kept repeatedly betting on himself until his brands all eventually either shut down completely or become palsied husks of their former selves - someone correct me if i'm wrong on any of this.

zero having to go to dwindle in 2014(?) seemed like the smoking gun that his house was very much not in order. then allll the well documented shady shit with the florida lawyer he clearly saw as a mark? i thought that, along with the fact he was selling off his personal collection in the first place, was the behavior of a dude who isn't exactly where he'd prefer to be financially.

[Lin Thizzy]

[ChrisSennsGirlfriend]

also: pretty sure jamie was no co-founder of toy machine. thought he was picked up as a rider between live! and heavy metal, and pretty quickly took on those 'unofficial team manager' and 'video director' duties simply because he's so type-A motivated and organized, and a 21/22 year old (?) ed was hopeless in terms of knowing how to run an actual company by himself.

[throwaway187]

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Anybody on Pizza. Dude...is that even a brand still?

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Dude, where is Pullizi?? That dude is dope. Hope he goes somewhere that he can get more exposure & $$$

  Enjoi. Soon.