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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #450 on: October 14, 2021, 08:23:31 AM »
lmao you mean Jason Adams^^^??

I can admit that fedora phase is rough but he is one of the best to ever step on a board

aight back to hot takes

I don't care much for Bob Dylan. I don't "hate" him and I can kinda respect how he is prolific but his music does nothin' for me
bob dylan johnny cash and tom waits. they do nothing for me

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« Reply #451 on: October 14, 2021, 01:16:09 PM »
Bob Dylan is probably the most overrated musician ever. He canít sing, his tunes are terrible, and every single one of them without exception is about 3 minutes longer than it needs to be. Heís definitely lucky he was ďof a certain time and placeĒ, because that shit is objectively terrible.

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« Reply #452 on: October 14, 2021, 01:26:09 PM »
Bad Brains are still terrible. The 311 of hardcore. I posted this in a UWTB thread, now itís time to post in it proper place. HR has one of the worst voices in hardcore, among other things. Also, keep your reggae outta my hardcore, forcing genres together is bad songwriting and impresses dorks who think playing different styles of music in one song automatically makes you a good musician.

All are better than the Descendents.

Crass is legitimately unlistenable garbage. Do you like hearing a cockney dude rant about politics over piss poorly played terrible even if played well music? Boy do I have the ďbandĒ for you.

EyeHateGod are also terrible. Great, letís have Mike IX screech over the same 3 downtuned guitar chords ringing out, letís do that every fucking song. Reminds me of that band Khanate and Burning Witch. You show me someone who says they sit through that shit when no one is watching, and Iíll show you a god damn liar.

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #453 on: October 15, 2021, 07:07:07 AM »
You donít like Bad Brains, Crass or Eyehategod but you listen to All?

I think you just have shitty taste in music.

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« Reply #454 on: October 15, 2021, 09:17:41 AM »
hahahaha^

@HeavyAndExpensive just showed their cards and now everything they say holds no weight

can't talk shit on eyehategod and be backing ALL

alright this one might ruffle a few feathers on here and i'll probably get kooked but MOST Propaghandi is terrible

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« Reply #455 on: October 15, 2021, 10:04:40 AM »
Bad Brains are still terrible. The 311 of hardcore. I posted this in a UWTB thread, now itís time to post in it proper place. HR has one of the worst voices in hardcore, among other things. Also, keep your reggae outta my hardcore, forcing genres together is bad songwriting and impresses dorks who think playing different styles of music in one song automatically makes you a good musician.

All are better than the Descendents.

Crass is legitimately unlistenable garbage. Do you like hearing a cockney dude rant about politics over piss poorly played terrible even if played well music? Boy do I have the ďbandĒ for you.

EyeHateGod are also terrible. Great, letís have Mike IX screech over the same 3 downtuned guitar chords ringing out, letís do that every fucking song. Reminds me of that band Khanate and Burning Witch. You show me someone who says they sit through that shit when no one is watching, and Iíll show you a god damn liar.


I think this is great. I love bad brains, but 100% get the 311 connection. I actually used to like 311 back in middle school. Honestly I think I just liked their logo, never truly loved the music. I found bad brains after I stopped listening to 311 and had to laugh like "311 stole their sound from bad brains, but the bad bad brains".

I personally think anything over 40 minutes is to long for an album. Anything over an hour can go fuck itself.

Also, I'm sure most people here will agree, but Pearl Jam fucking sucks with no redeeming qualities.

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« Reply #456 on: October 15, 2021, 11:29:15 AM »
Iím going to gnar anyone who critiques a band who put out at least a song this decade
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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #457 on: October 15, 2021, 12:35:13 PM »
i want to jump in on the bob dylan hating.

it's not that i hate the guy. but i for sure don't dig his music. what annoys me even more so are the bob dylan superfans that think he's like the best musician of all time. legit had several times people tell me bullshit like bob dylan actually invented rap, bob dylan actually invented this and wrote that, did you know this movie was inspired by this phrase allegedly said by bob dylan to some bum, bla bla bla. just total crap they pull out the air to legitimize their adoration. i get it, you love bob dylan. stop making up shit just to steamroll me into admitting any sort of respect for your opinion.

this goes for pretty much any type of obsessive superfan whatsoever, but there seem to be more bob dylan types out there than, say, david bowie obsessives.

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« Reply #458 on: October 15, 2021, 12:53:58 PM »
Bob Dylan is probably the most overrated musician ever. He canít sing, his tunes are terrible, and every single one of them without exception is about 3 minutes longer than it needs to be. Heís definitely lucky he was ďof a certain time and placeĒ, because that shit is objectively terrible.

Holy fuck finally. Dude sells himself as raw and authentic and sold out to any brand willing to give him money for crusty as placements. His singing is literally shaggy from scooby doo with unnecessary vocal cry to mask his nasal pitch. No wonder he was Steve Jobs favorite musician LOL

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #459 on: October 15, 2021, 01:01:47 PM »
Following the Bob Dylan myth deconstruction, Patti smith is a gender swapped Bob Dylan, why the hell is she admired by so many puzzles me.


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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #460 on: October 15, 2021, 02:24:30 PM »
hahahaha^

@HeavyAndExpensive just showed their cards and now everything they say holds no weight

can't talk shit on eyehategod and be backing ALL



EyeHateGod fucking sucks, I donít care. Shits terrible. For dudes that smell like sausages left in an ashtray with shitty facial hair.
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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #461 on: October 15, 2021, 02:27:31 PM »
You donít like Bad Brains, Crass or Eyehategod but you listen to All?

I think you just have shitty taste in music.

Have fun listening to Cockney spoken word over terribly played music

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #462 on: October 15, 2021, 03:26:48 PM »
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alright this one might ruffle a few feathers on here and i'll probably get kooked but MOST Propaghandi is terrible
woah, hold up there big boy! Is there a specific era of theirs you donít like? Or you just hate them in general?
They are, and have been, my fav band for over 20 years so I may be slightly biased and I wonít kook you for being honest but Iím trying to do the math on this one? Even Bill Stevenson thinks they are the best band ever and thatís a pretty big call from him!

Crass is more of a concept, than an actual band you listen to for the music. Sure they werenít great musicians (and even theyíll admit that), but their output and overall influence on punk/ diy is second to none!
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« Reply #463 on: October 15, 2021, 05:16:21 PM »

Crass is more of a concept, than an actual band you listen to for the music. Sure they werenít great musicians (and even theyíll admit that), but their output and overall influence on punk/ diy is second to none!

Not to jump on you - but thatís my entire point on the the crass sucks thing. The whole point of music is to listen to it. If youíre band is better as a concept than it is as a listening experience then it sucks. I listen to music, not concepts. Also - I listen to tons of bands that canít play music. The Replacements, they couldnít play and sometimes weíre too drunk to play, but you know what, they knew what sounded good. Thereís a difference between say, the Ramones, who canít ďplay wellĒ but know how to write a song people will want to listen to, and what Crass does. Crass canít play well - 75% of those older, mostly 80s bands, couldnít but what they could do was play something they knew what sounded good or was appealing in whatever respect. Crass doesnít know what sounds good and they canít play. You can be short or you can be fat -  you canít be both.

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #464 on: October 15, 2021, 10:26:20 PM »
↑ then crass as a band isnít for you; the message always came before the music, they believed in the power of punk as a movement, not making catchy tunes for the masses. Personally I think they have some great songs, but again Iím listening to them as a complete package (artwork and all) and as an ideology.
I would also argue that they have the greatest influence over punk culture in terms of sounds, ideas, aesthetic, ethics etc. and no band will ever match what they contributed.

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« Reply #465 on: October 15, 2021, 11:27:33 PM »
Bad Brains are still terrible. The 311 of hardcore. I posted this in a UWTB thread, now itís time to post in it proper place. HR has one of the worst voices in hardcore, among other things. Also, keep your reggae outta my hardcore, forcing genres together is bad songwriting and impresses dorks who think playing different styles of music in one song automatically makes you a good musician.

All are better than the Descendents.

Crass is legitimately unlistenable garbage. Do you like hearing a cockney dude rant about politics over piss poorly played terrible even if played well music? Boy do I have the ďbandĒ for you.

EyeHateGod are also terrible. Great, letís have Mike IX screech over the same 3 downtuned guitar chords ringing out, letís do that every fucking song. Reminds me of that band Khanate and Burning Witch. You show me someone who says they sit through that shit when no one is watching, and Iíll show you a god damn liar.

Come on man 50% of All's songs sound exactly the same
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« Reply #466 on: October 16, 2021, 04:22:16 AM »
What do you listen to when nobody is watching?  I guarantee itís not Crass. I feel like I take crazy pills when anybody pretends they like that cacophonous garbage. Theyíd rather be writing political manifestos than even attempt to write songs but we all pretend like we enjoy it cause ďtheyíre coolĒ and everyone forgets first and foremost theyíre supposed to be fcking band that you know, writes SONGS. The idea that they are special as a punk band because theyíre a package deal is laughable. Do you know how many punk bands managed to have a cool image without the terrible music? Itís like if they made Food Not Bombs a band, sounds great until you actually have to eat it

I mean, listen to this, itís fucking terrible!!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/QljX4OJQYZ4
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« Reply #467 on: October 16, 2021, 05:40:57 AM »
What do you listen to when nobody is watching?  I guarantee itís not Crass. I feel like I take crazy pills when anybody pretends they like that cacophonous garbage. Theyíd rather be writing political manifestos than even attempt to write songs but we all pretend like we enjoy it cause ďtheyíre coolĒ and everyone forgets first and foremost theyíre supposed to be fcking band that you know, writes SONGS. The idea that they are special as a punk band because theyíre a package deal is laughable. Do you know how many punk bands managed to have a cool image without the terrible music? Itís like if they made Food Not Bombs a band, sounds great until you actually have to eat it

I mean, listen to this, itís fucking terrible!!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/QljX4OJQYZ4

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #468 on: October 16, 2021, 06:43:31 AM »
I think the Descendents are easily one of the most overrated bands in punk/hardcore. Their first album is fine if not just for the nostalgia of the time when I first heard it. Beyond that I find them mostly horrible. They have the odd song here and there I won't ask to be turned off, but it feels like a broken clock situation. So much of it is pure incelcore and when I hear dudes over the age of like, 18, going on about how much "I'm The One" means to them it makes me skin crawl. Every single time I talk shit about this band people get up in a froth telling me how wrong I am.

ALL is terrible all around.

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« Reply #469 on: October 16, 2021, 07:27:16 AM »
I think the Descendents are easily one of the most overrated bands in punk/hardcore. Their first album is fine if not just for the nostalgia of the time when I first heard it. Beyond that I find them mostly horrible. They have the odd song here and there I won't ask to be turned off, but it feels like a broken clock situation. So much of it is pure incelcore and when I hear dudes over the age of like, 18, going on about how much "I'm The One" means to them it makes me skin crawl. Every single time I talk shit about this band people get up in a froth telling me how wrong I am.

ALL is terrible all around.

Oh man, Incelcore is a good one.  I once heard The Decendents described as ďnice guys finish last-coreĒ.  That first album isnít bad but the lyrics are so corny I canít do it. 

Crass rules, although I totally understand why people donít like it.  Itís super inept and Steve ignorantís voice can be super grating.  Personally I think musically it rulesÖ I love the military style drumming and spastic noisy guitar.  My favorite stuff is Penis Envy and anything Eve Libertine sings, but I like it all.

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #470 on: October 16, 2021, 07:43:22 AM »
All/ descendents is great when youíre pent up and in high school with relationship problems. Lyrics are pretty creepy if look at them as an adult though. Having said that, most of those songs were written when those guys were teenagers or in the their early 20s so of course it will get cringey. Hell, Iím thankful nothing I thought/ said during those years is recorded for the rest of the world to hear well beyond my grave. Those dudes were total outcasts too, even within the punk scene so in context and with some nostalgia-coloured glasses on I still get the appeal.

Much like propagandhi, you either hate or love Crass, maybe even more so. They blew my mind and opened me up to so many new ideas, so Iíll always have a soft spot for them even if Iím not blasting them on the daily! That military drumming is so central to their music, but they were also super experimental.
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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #471 on: October 16, 2021, 05:55:21 PM »
Iím going to gnar anyone who critiques a band who put out at least a song this decade

King gizzard, while I think they're a decent band, is one of the most gimmicky bands of the past decade. Not every album needs a half baked theme.

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #472 on: October 16, 2021, 09:20:09 PM »
I do still like Crass, but I like Zounds better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kLsDK19WM

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #473 on: October 17, 2021, 01:16:31 AM »
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King gizzard, while I think they're a decent band, is one of the most gimmicky bands of the past decade. Not every album needs a half baked theme.

Lots of people say id love them based on my love of spiritualized. But itís a hard no for me forever based on the name alone. Never even listened to a track just based on that fucking ridiculously stupid name. Can you imagine saying with a straight face to someone ďIím just really into king gizzard and the lizard wizard?Ē

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Re: unpopular opinions thread - music edition
« Reply #474 on: October 17, 2021, 10:56:02 AM »
This is what I think whenever someone says Radio Head is their favorite band


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« Reply #475 on: October 17, 2021, 08:50:43 PM »
lmao. nine inch nails is cringe. idk back in my younger days trent reznor was highly respected by many but in retrospect he just seems like some burberry erry type of shit from that era

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« Reply #476 on: October 18, 2021, 09:52:45 AM »
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alright this one might ruffle a few feathers on here and i'll probably get kooked but MOST Propaghandi is terrible
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woah, hold up there big boy! Is there a specific era of theirs you donít like? Or you just hate them in general?
They are, and have been, my fav band for over 20 years so I may be slightly biased and I wonít kook you for being honest but Iím trying to do the math on this one? Even Bill Stevenson thinks they are the best band ever and thatís a pretty big call from him!

Admittedly I did like a few songs off their first album in high school and I could probably listen those songs if they came on but, I am not going out of my way to listen to them

and for me personally Bill Stevenson is not someone I would consider an authority on music...

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« Reply #477 on: October 18, 2021, 08:38:07 PM »
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alright this one might ruffle a few feathers on here and i'll probably get kooked but MOST Propaghandi is terrible
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woah, hold up there big boy! Is there a specific era of theirs you donít like? Or you just hate them in general?
They are, and have been, my fav band for over 20 years so I may be slightly biased and I wonít kook you for being honest but Iím trying to do the math on this one? Even Bill Stevenson thinks they are the best band ever and thatís a pretty big call from him!
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Admittedly I did like a few songs off their first album in high school and I could probably listen those songs if they came on but, I am not going out of my way to listen to them

and for me personally Bill Stevenson is not someone I would consider an authority on music...

i love propagandhi, but absolutely we should not be taking advice from the guy responsible for iím the one

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« Reply #478 on: October 18, 2021, 10:23:48 PM »
Iím just saying that from black flag to present heís seen a shit tonne of bands come and go through the punk scene.
Hell, how many bands do their recordings at the blasting room? At this point you think a band like propagandhi wouldnít even register on his radar with all the shit he has to wade throughÖ

@Huell Howser they've definitely changed up their style from the old days, peep ďsupporting casteĒ and if you still canít stand them after listening to that then yeah, theyíll probably never win you back.

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« Reply #479 on: October 19, 2021, 06:57:17 AM »
having gotten into many smoke session debates over this hot take, i thought i would bring it on slap.

i personally, 100% believe, Oasis was a better band than The Beatles.

I really am opposed to whole the reasoning that one of the "first" to do it is the best. yes there is a myriad of things the Beatles were inspired by and ripped off, but general music culture seems to refer to them as the original and often "best" British rock band, so whenever i bring up my take, people get all up and arms about it.

I just think Oasis took the simplicity of and beauty of Beatles songwriting and put in a blender with some of the great British bands since; the working class ethos and intensity of bands like the Sex Pistols and Clash, rock star hooliganism of The Who, and the aesthetics of bands like The Smiths and Stone Roses.

Hell, they even made a Beatles song BETTER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GOctB63XMA&ab_channel=LuisGijon21

I do however acknowledge after the third album, Oasis' discography blows.



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