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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #360 on: January 14, 2021, 06:19:46 AM »
Good theory on the planning of the attack:

https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1349142068061478912?s=21

On a more serious note, this is some intense shit. I know it's mostly speculation, but I mean, it fits. The fact that panic buttons were removed from offices ahead of the insurrection is scary as hell. The guns, bombs, zip ties, etc. makes me believe that they legitimately planned on murdering members of Congress. The fact that Pence decided not to 25th orange fuhrer is bullshit.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #361 on: January 14, 2021, 06:40:04 AM »

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #362 on: January 14, 2021, 07:20:23 AM »
Is that Jamie Foy’s dad?
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #363 on: January 14, 2021, 07:22:41 AM »
lol read somewhere that Q-ers are now changing THE DATE to somewhere in March.

Breaking news, Millerites set new date for apocalypse, say last prediction was "fake news"
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #364 on: January 14, 2021, 07:43:35 AM »
Some really good jokes have come out of this epic failure ... some middle eaters guy tweeted that "due to covid restrictions, the usa had to stage a coup on domestic ground this year".

It really is amazing that a flaming geriatric narcissist was able to undermine democracy in just 4 years ... but maybe his own incompetence played into his favor since who could've predicted it would all end up like this. Imagine the shit show if this clown got assassinated.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #365 on: January 14, 2021, 08:44:46 AM »
he's just been a pawn for the extreme right wing that is too sacred to do the dirty work themselves. He's too toxic for the republicans now, and they will toss him aside now that he is of no use to them. They got their judges, they play the long game.
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #366 on: January 14, 2021, 11:38:18 AM »
Good theory on the planning of the attack:

https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1349142068061478912?s=21

I can already visualise this being re-enacted in the documentary
"Did you get him on the phone Rudy? This is very important..."

"No, but I left Mike a voicemail, I'm sure it's gonna be fine"

"Mike? ... WHO THE FUCK IS MIKE?!"


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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #367 on: January 14, 2021, 01:05:03 PM »
poor rudy, he destroyed his own legacy for the sake of a president who doesn't want to pay him for his services any longer.

What a dipshit. All he had to do was live a quiet life and he would have gone down in history a the mayor who brought NYC together... instead he goes down in history as the guy who rounded out his career subverting democracy with baseless lawsuits and jerking off for a girl he thought was 15.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #368 on: January 14, 2021, 01:28:33 PM »
Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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« Reply #369 on: January 14, 2021, 01:59:15 PM »
Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.

Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #370 on: January 14, 2021, 05:33:11 PM »
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Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.
this is true. the 5 states with the largest covid problems all coincidentally put sick people into old folk's homes. cuomo, whitmer, newsome and 2 others who's names escape me.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #371 on: January 14, 2021, 06:41:16 PM »

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #372 on: January 14, 2021, 06:44:26 PM »
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Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.
I don’t want to push this thread too off-topic, but make no mistake: Cuomo fucking sucks and New York’s overall response to the pandemic was an abject failure. I’m dreading his inevitable presidential run.
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #373 on: January 14, 2021, 08:47:25 PM »
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Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.
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I don’t want to push this thread too off-topic, but make no mistake: Cuomo fucking sucks and New York’s overall response to the pandemic was an abject failure. I’m dreading his inevitable presidential run.

Don't worry, other than Donald Trump, New York politicians universally eat shit because the rest of the world discovers what absolute dogshit humans they are. The moment Bloomberg opened his little freak mouth and started talking on the debate stage he immediately nose dived. The same thing happened with Rudy when he tried running in '08 because even fucking Republican primary voters got sick of him just saying "I was mayor during 9/11" over and over again
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #374 on: January 14, 2021, 10:31:17 PM »
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Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.
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Kooky bullshit
Here is the actual list of states by covid cases 1st per capita (the only fair way to compare) and second by raw number (hindering larger states, like ny, ca, fl, and tx)



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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #375 on: January 14, 2021, 11:38:07 PM »
Continuing off topic...

NY is a very strange state. I wonder what would have happened to NY if Spitzer hadn't resigned. (The documentary about his fall / the escort service he used is amazing.)

Before going to NY, I didn't realize how conservative rural NY was and how rust belt/fucked the non-NYC cities are. And, I don't understand how liberal NYC voted in Rudy and Bloomberg. How did that happen?

It seems NYC and Long Island do well and the rest of the state can't find it's footing. (The state's population is supposed to stay flat as people flee places like Binghamton and flock the greater NYC area). Buffalo is gentrifying with the huge state investment and property values soared in some neighborhoods there as well (but i still wonder if Buffalo can be saved), Albany has its charms, Saratoga Springs is nice and so is Ithaca, but Western NY and Upstate are pretty much just post-industrial nightmares (basically anything north of Poughkeepsie). It seems the only reason to go upstate is to go to prison, university, or... is there any other reason to go upstate?

As far as governing, I don't know how someone governs the right left divide in that state. NY really is two states jammed together (one hyper conservative mid-western rust belt and the other a global city-state).

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #376 on: January 15, 2021, 06:58:37 AM »
First off, NYC is huge and has a healthy conservative population in Staten Island, some parts of Brooklyn, and lots of Queens. I wasn't around at the time, but I also understand that Bloomberg did a lot for this city and many people I know speak highly of him (though I don't necessarily agree with their praise).

Second off, Rochester (and many other upstate towns and cities), for all its flaws, is still a tight-knit community in a beautiful region. They deal with the same red/blue divide that lots of other cities across the country encounter, not to mention the fact that the industry that sustained the town (Kodak) basically went up and under a few years ago. Of course they're struggling, just like any other post-industrial city in this nation. That doesn't mean upstate isn't worth "saving," whatever that means.

Also, it's very fair to point out that New York's death toll is unnecessarily high regardless of capita, which could have been avoided had Cuomo and Bill de Blasio (who is also an idiot) not engaged one another in a dick swinging competition for the majority of March instead of just closing everything down and encouraging people to stay home. Lots of outlets have written about it, this is a good summary of the first few months: https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

Obviously, other governors fucked up royally, but they're being held up as examples whereas Cuomo is getting Emmys and becoming an establishment hero.
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #377 on: January 15, 2021, 08:34:34 AM »
i’ve lived in NYC and been upstate a lot, upstate is sicker by a long shot.
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #378 on: January 15, 2021, 09:24:50 AM »
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Rudy was already pretty hated in New York well before he affiliated himself with Trump, he just rode the post-9/11 wave to his failed presidential campaign in 2008. Keep an eye out for Andrew Cuomo, he's about to do the same thing with the pandemic.
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Right or wrong I think of Cuomo as a senior killer now. From my understanding, which is limited mind you, he required nursing home to receive patients who were sick with Corona virus infecting large amounts of seniors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html

He’s a lot like Trump in terms of his unwillingness to admit fault. I think you are indicating that he will be as successful as Rudy in national politics and I agree with you.
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Kooky bullshit
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Here is the actual list of states by covid cases 1st per capita (the only fair way to compare) and second by raw number (hindering larger states, like ny, ca, fl, and tx)


now do deaths. upstate NY is awesome! outsourcing hurt all blue collar areas but you'll find better people there than the condescending people in the cities.

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #379 on: January 15, 2021, 09:33:33 AM »
now do deaths. upstate NY is awesome! outsourcing hurt all blue collar areas but you'll find better people there than the condescending people in the cities.

can you provide a statistic to back up that claim?

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #380 on: January 15, 2021, 10:01:51 AM »
Continuing off topic...

As far as governing, I don't know how someone governs the right left divide in that state. NY really is two states jammed together (one hyper conservative mid-western rust belt and the other a global city-state).

imagine governing California
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« Reply #381 on: January 15, 2021, 10:57:42 AM »
First off, NYC is huge and has a healthy conservative population in Staten Island, some parts of Brooklyn, and lots of Queens. I wasn't around at the time, but I also understand that Bloomberg did a lot for this city and many people I know speak highly of him (though I don't necessarily agree with their praise).

Second off, Rochester (and many other upstate towns and cities), for all its flaws, is still a tight-knit community in a beautiful region. They deal with the same red/blue divide that lots of other cities across the country encounter, not to mention the fact that the industry that sustained the town (Kodak) basically went up and under a few years ago. Of course they're struggling, just like any other post-industrial city in this nation. That doesn't mean upstate isn't worth "saving," whatever that means.

Also, it's very fair to point out that New York's death toll is unnecessarily high regardless of capita, which could have been avoided had Cuomo and Bill de Blasio (who is also an idiot) not engaged one another in a dick swinging competition for the majority of March instead of just closing everything down and encouraging people to stay home. Lots of outlets have written about it, this is a good summary of the first few months: https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

Obviously, other governors fucked up royally, but they're being held up as examples whereas Cuomo is getting Emmys and becoming an establishment hero.

Ok, Rudy and Bloomberg make a little more sense when we bring in Staten Island.

And, i think you misread my comment about Buffalo/WNY... It wasn't if it is worth saving but if it can be saved. I don't know a billion dollars is enough to turn the city around as it is still losing population even with the big state investment.

I think Cuomo gets praise not for the first month or two of the pandemic but for his press conferences where he said this is going to suck but we'll make it through, which is what a lot of people needed to hear opposed to Trump conjecturing about injecting bleach.

And, to each their own, but Upstate is losing people like crazy and there is probably a reason fully renovated houses go for less than 100K in Binghamton. (Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, and Albany have their appeal), but sadly the small towns are decaying. I lived in one for a few years for work and it was not an enjoyable experience. I took a big pay cut to just get out of there.

The reason it was a bummer relates back to the key theme of our thread... I saw tons of confederate flags in rural NY (multiple apartments on main street hung the flag in their windows, it was on the pick up trucks that would drive around to protest the pride parade, etc.). I know black dudes who are afraid to leave their university campus since they believe the local population doesn't want them around. And, they weren't necessarily wrong, I remember being at a cafe trying to shoot the shit with locals and owner of the building told me, "This place was great before the Blacks and Mexicans moved in." The anti-immigrant sentiment was so strong that people would tell me and my ex how immigrants are all terrible people and the cause of all of the problems in society (just not my ex she was ok...she was white). The drug problem in the small town was of the charts as well, which creates problems attracting new residents or keeping residents (the company I worked for can't keep anyone around and even the local hospitals struggle to recruit doctors...no doctors = terrible healthcare and just another reason to flee). My ex would come home pissed after being harassed on her walk home by dudes in trucks and I almost got ran over multiple times by the same people. Not to mention during my brief tenure living a small rural NY town, my landlord grilled me about my religion (she would only rent to Christians) being baptized Catholic assuaged her fears, but she also reminded me that satan was coming back as a Catholic and she constantly tried to convert me. She believed vitamin c cured cancer but the gov wouldn't tell us, the military was poisoning us with chemtrails, and she had a little following among the locals who believed this nonsense.

Small town NY was honestly the angriest most hateful place I ever lived. Many of the characters I had to interact with were the people who would have fit right in at this riot.

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"that guy is double parked."
"Who cares? there are people starving to death! besides, how does that affect you? does it lessen the joy of parking?

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #382 on: January 15, 2021, 04:49:20 PM »
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First off, NYC is huge and has a healthy conservative population in Staten Island, some parts of Brooklyn, and lots of Queens. I wasn't around at the time, but I also understand that Bloomberg did a lot for this city and many people I know speak highly of him (though I don't necessarily agree with their praise).

Second off, Rochester (and many other upstate towns and cities), for all its flaws, is still a tight-knit community in a beautiful region. They deal with the same red/blue divide that lots of other cities across the country encounter, not to mention the fact that the industry that sustained the town (Kodak) basically went up and under a few years ago. Of course they're struggling, just like any other post-industrial city in this nation. That doesn't mean upstate isn't worth "saving," whatever that means.

Also, it's very fair to point out that New York's death toll is unnecessarily high regardless of capita, which could have been avoided had Cuomo and Bill de Blasio (who is also an idiot) not engaged one another in a dick swinging competition for the majority of March instead of just closing everything down and encouraging people to stay home. Lots of outlets have written about it, this is a good summary of the first few months: https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

Obviously, other governors fucked up royally, but they're being held up as examples whereas Cuomo is getting Emmys and becoming an establishment hero.
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Ok, Rudy and Bloomberg make a little more sense when we bring in Staten Island.

And, i think you misread my comment about Buffalo/WNY... It wasn't if it is worth saving but if it can be saved. I don't know a billion dollars is enough to turn the city around as it is still losing population even with the big state investment.

I think Cuomo gets praise not for the first month or two of the pandemic but for his press conferences where he said this is going to suck but we'll make it through, which is what a lot of people needed to hear opposed to Trump conjecturing about injecting bleach.

And, to each their own, but Upstate is losing people like crazy and there is probably a reason fully renovated houses go for less than 100K in Binghamton. (Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, and Albany have their appeal), but sadly the small towns are decaying. I lived in one for a few years for work and it was not an enjoyable experience. I took a big pay cut to just get out of there.

The reason it was a bummer relates back to the key theme of our thread... I saw tons of confederate flags in rural NY (multiple apartments on main street hung the flag in their windows, it was on the pick up trucks that would drive around to protest the pride parade, etc.). I know black dudes who are afraid to leave their university campus since they believe the local population doesn't want them around. And, they weren't necessarily wrong, I remember being at a cafe trying to shoot the shit with locals and owner of the building told me, "This place was great before the Blacks and Mexicans moved in." The anti-immigrant sentiment was so strong that people would tell me and my ex how immigrants are all terrible people and the cause of all of the problems in society (just not my ex she was ok...she was white). The drug problem in the small town was of the charts as well, which creates problems attracting new residents or keeping residents (the company I worked for can't keep anyone around and even the local hospitals struggle to recruit doctors...no doctors = terrible healthcare and just another reason to flee). My ex would come home pissed after being harassed on her walk home by dudes in trucks and I almost got ran over multiple times by the same people. Not to mention during my brief tenure living a small rural NY town, my landlord grilled me about my religion (she would only rent to Christians) being baptized Catholic assuaged her fears, but she also reminded me that satan was coming back as a Catholic and she constantly tried to convert me. She believed vitamin c cured cancer but the gov wouldn't tell us, the military was poisoning us with chemtrails, and she had a little following among the locals who believed this nonsense.

Small town NY was honestly the angriest most hateful place I ever lived. Many of the characters I had to interact with were the people who would have fit right in at this riot.
a wise man once said 'we see upstate NY as we are, not as it is.'
why were you mad at upstate NY?

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #383 on: January 15, 2021, 06:26:26 PM »


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Location data gleaned from thousands of videos posted on the social network Parler and extracted in the days before Amazon restricted access to app this week, reveal its users included police officers around the U.S. and service members stationed on bases at home and abroad.

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https://gizmodo.com/leaked-parler-data-points-to-users-at-police-stations-1846059897

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #384 on: January 15, 2021, 06:29:21 PM »
Some really good jokes have come out of this epic failure ... some middle eaters guy tweeted that "due to covid restrictions, the usa had to stage a coup on domestic ground this year".


That is a good one!
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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #385 on: January 15, 2021, 09:21:17 PM »
my landlord grilled me about my religion (she would only rent to Christians)
Was she aware that that is an illegal practice?

 You and the D00D have turned this thread into a horrible head-on-collision between a short bus full of retarded kids and a van full of paraplegics.



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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #387 on: January 16, 2021, 12:19:37 PM »

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I love when people bring up world hunger. It makes everything meaningless.
"that guy is double parked."
"Who cares? there are people starving to death! besides, how does that affect you? does it lessen the joy of parking?

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #388 on: January 16, 2021, 03:25:24 PM »
It took about a week but the far right kooks finally found this thread.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/inside-the-epoch-times-a-mysterious-pro-trump-newspaper/617645/
i read that whole article and it was pretty interesting, if headache inducing, so thanks for sharing.

but i am amiss how it links to this thread here?

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Re: 1/6/2021
« Reply #389 on: January 16, 2021, 06:26:25 PM »
Ah, the poster I was indirectly responding to either deleted his comment or got booted.

Quote from: ChuckRamone
I love when people bring up world hunger. It makes everything meaningless.
"that guy is double parked."
"Who cares? there are people starving to death! besides, how does that affect you? does it lessen the joy of parking?