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WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« on: February 03, 2021, 04:24:55 PM »
Wide board + short WB skaters truly are the most oppressed minority

every couple days for the last year or so, i would open my skateshop bookmarks hoping on a new "unicorn", filter by width and wheelbase, and close my phone in disgust in that order.

"you want a small wheelbase? ride an 8, bigfoot!" i can hear these screams in ever waking nightmare.

this thread is for the dozens of us (as the industry sees it) to discuss the dozen of options that are left, experiences with said boards/setups, new developments for the cause, etc. most importantly to put our collective foot down in hopes for wheelbase equality.

(8.5 and up, 14.25 and below)
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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 05:05:54 PM »
starting things off with my current popsicle

scumco deep dish 8.5/31.5/14wb
venture 5.6 w/forged plates
f4 conical full 52mm 101a
swiss super 6
local allen hardware
mob
sb dunk low/adidas tyshawn

havent skated this much yet due to the storm but it might be the steepest shape i have ever owned, from the tail to the concave.

scumco has a 8.75/31.6/14wb as well. if its a deep dish it will be my next popsicle
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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2021, 05:19:41 PM »
Iíll be watching this thread.  My last deck was 8.5 with 14.25, currently on a 14.4wb.

I did skate 3 of the 9Ē Santa Cruz boat shape last year and they all had a 14.25wb.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2021, 05:24:31 PM »
starting things off with my current popsicle

scumco deep dish 8.5/31.5/14wb
venture 5.6 w/forged plates
f4 conical full 52mm 101a
swiss super 6
local allen hardware
mob
sb dunk low/adidas tyshawn

havent skated this much yet due to the storm but it might be the steepest shape i have ever owned, from the tail to the concave.

scumco has a 8.75/31.6/14wb as well. if its a deep dish it will be my next popsicle until

Oh my, that graphic.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2021, 05:30:49 PM »
Iíll be watching this thread.  My last deck was 8.5 with 14.25, currently on a 14.4wb.

I did skate 3 of the 9Ē Santa Cruz boat shape last year and they all had a 14.25wb.
are the boats the equivalent of the creature stumps? want to hear your experience if you remember


Oh my, that graphic.
have gold baseplates coming in the mail 8)

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2021, 05:39:04 PM »
Here's a quick info dump for the WBSWB-curious
for my purposes 14.25" is the cut off for a short wheel base and 8.625" is the cut off for a wide board

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Darkroom:
Torpedo (9.125" wide 14.25"WB)
Harlequin (8.75" wide 14" WB)
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Polar
Dane1 (9.125" wide 14.125" WB)
92 (9.125" wide 14.25" WB)
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Girl/Chocolate
Couch (9.25" wide 13.875" WB)
Loveseat (9" wide  13.875" WB)
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Creature
Stump (8.8" - 9" wide 14.25" WB)
Square Tail (8.59" wide 14.25" WB)
Tombstone (9.31" wide 14.1" WB)
Martinez (9" wide 14.25" WB)
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Misc. offerings
Anti Hero Brown Bomber (8.86" wide 14.125" WB)
Santa Cruz Boat (8.6" - 9" wide 14.25" WB)
Alien/Habitat (8.75" wide 14.25" WB)
Baker Creation (9.25" wide 14" WB)
5boro Shred (8.75" wide 13.75 WB)
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Honorable mentions (the 14.38" graveyard)
Heroin occasionally offers popsicles 8.75" - 9.25" with 14.38" WB
Polar Surf (8.75" wide 14.38" WB)
Polar 8.625" and 8.75" popsicles have 14.38" WBs
Polar Football (8.75" wide 14.375" WB)
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editor's note: fixing mistakes and adding things as I go, feel free to mention me if you have additions or corrections
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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 05:43:49 PM »
Here's a quick info dump for the WBSWB-curious
for my purposes 14.25" is the cut off for a short wheel base and 8.625" is the cut off for a wide board

Habitat and Alien offer an 8.75" popsicle with a 14.25" wheel base
https://www.habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/dela-eye-level-1-8-125-8-75-p-b
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/visitor-8-75-p-b

Darkroom offers short wheelbases on some of their shaped boards:
Torpedo (9.125" wide 14.25"WB)
https://www.tactics.com/darkroom/torpedo-9125-skateboard-deck
Harlequin (8.75" wide 14" WB)
https://www.tactics.com/darkroom/torpedo-9125-skateboard-deck

Polar's offerings are:
Football (8.75" wide 14" WB)
Dane1 (9.125" wide 14.125" WB)
92 (9.125" wide 14.25" WB)

Anti Hero Brown Bomber (8.86" wide 14.125" WB)

Honorable mentions (the 14.38" graveyard)
Heroin occasionally offers popsicles 8.75" - 9.25" with 14.38" WB
Polar Surf (8.75" wide 14.38" WB)
Polar 8.625" and 8.75" popsicles have 14.38" WBs
thought the polar football was listed as 14.4

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2021, 05:45:42 PM »
The Girl Loveseat and Couch shapes are the shit.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2021, 05:48:37 PM »
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Here's a quick info dump for the WBSWB-curious
for my purposes 14.25" is the cut off for a short wheel base and 8.625" is the cut off for a wide board

Habitat and Alien offer an 8.75" popsicle with a 14.25" wheel base
https://www.habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/dela-eye-level-1-8-125-8-75-p-b
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/visitor-8-75-p-b

Darkroom offers short wheelbases on some of their shaped boards:
Torpedo (9.125" wide 14.25"WB)
https://www.tactics.com/darkroom/torpedo-9125-skateboard-deck
Harlequin (8.75" wide 14" WB)
https://www.tactics.com/darkroom/torpedo-9125-skateboard-deck

Polar's offerings are:
Football (8.75" wide 14" WB)
Dane1 (9.125" wide 14.125" WB)
92 (9.125" wide 14.25" WB)

Anti Hero Brown Bomber (8.86" wide 14.125" WB)

Honorable mentions (the 14.38" graveyard)
Heroin occasionally offers popsicles 8.75" - 9.25" with 14.38" WB
Polar Surf (8.75" wide 14.38" WB)
Polar 8.625" and 8.75" popsicles have 14.38" WBs
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thought the polar football was listed as 14.4
You right, the shop site I was looking at was wrong. Updating my post accordingly

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2021, 05:59:39 PM »
creature stumps decks seem like they would be good for this thread.
https://creatureskateboards.com/shape-guide

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2021, 06:06:08 PM »
New GT 18 Lance guest art deck is an 8.5" with a 14.38WB

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2021, 06:14:25 PM »
starting things off with my current popsicle

scumco deep dish 8.5/31.5/14wb
venture 5.6 w/forged plates
f4 conical full 52mm 101a
swiss super 6
local allen hardware
mob
sb dunk low/adidas tyshawn

havent skated this much yet due to the storm but it might be the steepest shape i have ever owned, from the tail to the concave.

scumco has a 8.75/31.6/14wb as well. if its a deep dish it will be my next popsicle

Looks solid, hope it works out for ya! Glad it's gunna get thrashed and hopefully it's the unicorn shape.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2021, 06:16:09 PM »
Baker creation was 9.25Ē to 32Ē x 14Ē

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2021, 06:19:30 PM »


street plant barkyard
9.5 x 32, 14Ē wb
thunder 151
spitfire conical full 53mm 99a
bronson g3
random hardware
jessup

also have a set of 58mm conical fulls i might try with this deck.
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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2021, 06:29:02 PM »
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starting things off with my current popsicle

scumco deep dish 8.5/31.5/14wb
venture 5.6 w/forged plates
f4 conical full 52mm 101a
swiss super 6
local allen hardware
mob
sb dunk low/adidas tyshawn

havent skated this much yet due to the storm but it might be the steepest shape i have ever owned, from the tail to the concave.

scumco has a 8.75/31.6/14wb as well. if its a deep dish it will be my next popsicle until
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Oh my, that graphic.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2021, 07:14:00 PM »


street plant barkyard
9.5 x 32, 14Ē wb
thunder 151
spitfire conical full 53mm 99a
bronson g3
random hardware
jessup

also have a set of 58mm conical fulls i might try with this deck.
how are the kicks on it? steep like the og?

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2021, 07:23:17 PM »


street plant barkyard
9.5 x 32, 14Ē wb
thunder 151
spitfire conical full 53mm 99a
bronson g3
random hardware
jessup

also have a set of 58mm conical fulls i might try with this deck.

god i wish they made all decks like this, why you wasting all that wood anyways?
I wish I'd known that at best we only have 20 summers at a decent skate level.
From then on it's low impact skating and trying not to forget tricks. 20 summers. And then it's over.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2021, 08:12:08 PM »
Wknd Jordan Taylor
Width 8.5
WB 14.25
Indy 149 hollow (at 55mm)
54mm spits

Im not sure about length tail and nose, wknd has been all over the place at times with those depending on season.

While i thought i would have a hard time skating it, it actually feels balanced even with cupsole shoes. Concave is medium compared to my polar 8.25 which was longer and flatter.

Currently still in lockdown id report back when i put more miles with my skating.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2021, 08:52:24 PM »
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street plant barkyard
9.5 x 32, 14Ē wb
thunder 151
spitfire conical full 53mm 99a
bronson g3
random hardware
jessup

also have a set of 58mm conical fulls i might try with this deck.
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how are the kicks on it? steep like the og?

going by my totally unscientific eyeball test and single skate session i'd say yes.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2021, 08:53:19 PM »
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street plant barkyard
9.5 x 32, 14Ē wb
thunder 151
spitfire conical full 53mm 99a
bronson g3
random hardware
jessup

also have a set of 58mm conical fulls i might try with this deck.
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god i wish they made all decks like this, why you wasting all that wood anyways?

it has been insanely fun so far.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2021, 09:13:33 PM »
Early last year Primitive made a Spencer Hamilton 8.62 popsicle with a 14" wb.  I thought it was a typo/too good to be true but I gave it a gamble and bought one. To my surprise, it was a true 14"wb.  Great deck - big nose, big tail and pretty flat concave (it was like riding a late 90's girl deck on steroids).  I pair it with venture 6.1 trucks and bones 54 v1 wheels. During the time I was riding it, I kept scouring the internet for more of them but couldn't find any, so I rode it into the ground.  Then one day, shortly after the first wave of covid lockdowns (april/mayish?) lo and behold the primitive website restocked them and had a 20% off sale to boot, so I bought 4.  Haven't seen them around since but if I do, Im stocking up again. Until then, I got 2 left.

Here is what it looked like
https://shop.ccs.com/primitive-hamilton-dreams-skateboard-deck-8-625

If it doesn't ever come back, I'll probably end up getting a Polar popsicle 8.62 or 8.75.  The wb is longer than I'd prefer but those shapes are pretty good. Before the primitive hamilton, I rode two or three polar 8.75s and one 8.6.  I think the wb on those were 14.38 which was hefty to pop but manageable after getting used to it.  I was riding indy 159 and ace 55 on those.  But the Ventures I'm riding now and that polar 14.38 might be rough...

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2021, 09:17:10 PM »
It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2021, 09:52:12 PM »
It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.

If my order of uncut decks actually ship, I got this.

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2021, 09:58:39 PM »
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It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.
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If my order of uncut decks actually ship, I got this.
what are you thinking for tail length/steepness? would try one out as long as it isnt mellow with a long tail

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2021, 10:05:11 PM »
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It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.
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If my order of uncut decks actually ship, I got this.
Hell yeah when this happens and your interested in selling one..or two..or 15 please let me know!

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2021, 10:32:55 PM »
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It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.
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If my order of uncut decks actually ship, I got this.
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what are you thinking for tail length/steepness? would try one out as long as it isnt mellow with a long tail

Deck is definitely going to have a med/steep tail. For tail length probably around 6 5/8"? I don't know yet, gotta draft a shape.

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It can't be to hard to make a medium to steep deck that's..
8.75-9 inches wide
32 inches long
14-14.25 wb
Please and thank you.
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If my order of uncut decks actually ship, I got this.
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Hell yeah when this happens and your interested in selling one..or two..or 15 please let me know!

Will do!

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2021, 12:16:29 AM »
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Iíll be watching this thread.  My last deck was 8.5 with 14.25, currently on a 14.4wb.

I did skate 3 of the 9Ē Santa Cruz boat shape last year and they all had a 14.25wb.
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are the boats the equivalent of the creature stumps? want to hear your experience if you remember

I havenít skated any of the stumps decks but the Dante Cruz decks were great.  Slight taper.  Not full football, think rugby.  They were stiff and steep and skated like a smaller deck.    I skated them with 161s. I started going down in deck size and havenít bought one since but now Iím on my way back up and I would skate one again.


Anyone skate a short wheelbase with Aces?

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2021, 12:37:07 AM »
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Iíll be watching this thread.  My last deck was 8.5 with 14.25, currently on a 14.4wb.

I did skate 3 of the 9Ē Santa Cruz boat shape last year and they all had a 14.25wb.
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are the boats the equivalent of the creature stumps? want to hear your experience if you remember
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I havenít skated any of the stumps decks but the Dante Cruz decks were great.  Slight taper.  Not full football, think rugby.  They were stiff and steep and skated like a smaller deck.    I skated them with 161s. I started going down in deck size and havenít bought one since but now Iím on my way back up and I would skate one again.


Anyone skate a short wheelbase with Aces?
Yeah, 44s with a hockey or quasi is my default tech(see: kickflips) board

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Re: WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase)
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2021, 12:52:35 AM »
Santa Cruz boats

https://youtu.be/G42d4ylWOMQ

This sounds like a really sick shape, but something seems weird about skating a "santa cruz" board being from the opposite side of the country. Anyone else feel this way too?

It was cool that people like Damian Smith, Jake Rupp and Vanik Hacobian rode for them at times and they released some cool footage of them, but I always feel like it was weird that they skated for them in the first place.