^ I have low standards for counting people's stuff in games of SKATE because it's mostly kids who want to play me (when it's someone older who takes it overly seriously though, and has no class, I play mind games and troll them hard as fuck) but for real, some impossibles attempts I see are ridiculous and really just 360 shoves with barely any foot contact, so they look like the pizza dough styled 360 pop shoves just near the wrong foot, so it's really a different trick and I can see the dilemma - although to be honest, I find that grey area hilarious since that trick made a comeback. The proper technique is so different from what was trending before that (scraped trick vs. popped tricks), you can tell how some people struggle really hard to 'fit in' but in reality the trick is so unnatural to do for them, they just fail at getting there and it's on footage that gets used too. Kind of makes you think 'well, just keep doing 360 flips then, or did you sell your soul'.