Why were skate styles in the 90s so bad?

[Roger Mexico]

early 90's and late 90's are two totally different things

This. Maybe not totally different, but notably different. op's example is from 94, so it's the transition from super-tech sloppiness (There are many notable exceptions to the slop, most of them are the names people remember and who stuck around through the rest of the decade and longer) to cleaner and bigger skating. Nearly any major video from 96-99 could probably be held up as an example of good styles.

[Bigwheelbite]

*cough* Mike Carroll *cough cough* Tom Penny

TP 100% but defo not Mike Carroll - don't get why so many people rate him 
Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

[RickKane]

2007-2014 was the worst time period in skateboarding hands down

[Easy Slider]

Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

Never heard about that, care to elaborate? I mean dissing Penny, who in his right mind would do such a thing. 

[Alan]

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Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

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Never heard about that, care to elaborate? I mean dissing Penny, who in his right mind would do such a thing. 

IIRC, the story goes that a lot of the Americans dissed Penny (directly, behind his back?) at the Radlands contest in 94, only to suck the last drop of cum out of him the next year.

Edit: but Carroll is in the skate style Pantheon. There's pretty much a consensus on that.

[TheDraught]

Horrible oversized, baggy 'fits', ridiculous small wheels, (therefore) no speed, focus on progression (too many circus tricks) instead of speed and style.

Also video parts were often filmed in a few days instead of footage collected over months and from dedicated filming  trips. So footy was often "good enough".

Imho it was still a very important time in skateboarding, tricks that were invented then are now done very proper, take for instance front foot flips, switch tres, late shuvs, etc. etc.

[kid casserole]

I guess you skipped Quys part

[BugleBites]

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Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

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Never heard about that, care to elaborate? I mean dissing Penny, who in his right mind would do such a thing. 

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Edit: but Carroll is in the skate style Pantheon. There's pretty much a consensus on that.

Yeah, saying you don’t understand why other people praise Carroll’s style is the same as saying “I have bad taste.”. Probably just hates him cause Girl makes boards in China. 

[DannyDee]

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Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

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Never heard about that, care to elaborate? I mean dissing Penny, who in his right mind would do such a thing. 

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IIRC, the story goes that a lot of the Americans dissed Penny (directly, behind his back?) at the Radlands contest in 94, only to suck the last drop of cum out of him the next year.

Edit: but Carroll is in the skate style Pantheon. There's pretty much a consensus on that.

Yeah, their's stories of the Crailtap guys treating him bad, but I also don't think they ever really went full fanboy of him. They stayed within their pretty insular circle of LA and SF guys.

But, early-90's and late 90's are way different. I'd say a ton of the crailtap guys who were also ultra-tech helped push things in the right direction like Carroll, Howard, Guy, Gino, Scott Johnston,  etc. Although, I would think many would point to A Visual Sound as the turning point.

[Happy, sorry]

Thank you skate grawds

[brucewillis]

3 letters: H U F

[Fhk]

EE3 was 1996 so op is obviously just being silly

[blowjobtofakie]

Fred Durst wished he was Chad Muska so bad.

Prove me wrong.

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Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

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Never heard about that, care to elaborate? I mean dissing Penny, who in his right mind would do such a thing. 

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IIRC, the story goes that a lot of the Americans dissed Penny (directly, behind his back?) at the Radlands contest in 94, only to suck the last drop of cum out of him the next year.

I've heard a few versions of that story in which some of the guys were literally spitting on him, really in fear that someone from Europe might end up taking their jobs.

[Toadfish Rebecchi]

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*cough* Mike Carroll *cough cough* Tom Penny

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TP 100% but defo not Mike Carroll - don't get why so many people rate him 
Plus he tried to diss TP way back when then ended up worshipping him! Chump...

Mods, can someone ban this Bigwheelbite guy?

[baaaaaaguette]

When you think about it the 90's might possibly be the weirdest decade in human history lol.

[Mike]

When you think about it the 90's might possibly be the weirdest decade in human history lol.

Must say I enjoyed the hell out of the ‘90’s lol

[baaaaaaguette]

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When you think about it the 90's might possibly be the weirdest decade in human history lol.

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Must say I enjoyed the hell out of the ‘90’s lol

I would literally give anything to live one year in 1995 just to feel it y'know?

[Easy Slider]

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When you think about it the 90's might possibly be the weirdest decade in human history lol.

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Must say I enjoyed the hell out of the ‘90’s lol

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I would literally give anything to live one year in 1995 just to feel it y'know?

I wouldn't have minded if the time had stopped in 1995. I was 18 years old, at the peak of my skate-ability, did not have a worry in the world and Penny was setting new standards.

[Wheelbyte]

new school urethanes like f4
reduced drag from clothing weight and wind resistance
wider decks and trucks
bigger wheels
better cameras
more money and motivation
global acceleration - all sports / arts / disciplines are better
its called progression

in the future decks might be 3mm thick
lightweight cored wheels may be reinvented
bearings may be smaller and half the weight
new generation trucks with 50% weight reduction

everyone skates with an intravenous glucose drip
all cameras are 12K
skaters train like shaolin monks
city plaza surfaces are glass like smooth

covid sterilises the remaining population
and noone can achieve a boner anymore
and tv gets shittier
so everyone just skates more

[baaaaaaguette]

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When you think about it the 90's might possibly be the weirdest decade in human history lol.

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Must say I enjoyed the hell out of the ‘90’s lol

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I would literally give anything to live one year in 1995 just to feel it y'know?

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I wouldn't have minded if the time had stopped in 1995. I was 18 years old, at the peak of my skate-ability, did not have a worry in the world and Penny was setting new standards.

I feel like everyone took 20 years to catch up with Penny lmao, hard to believe he skated like he did back in 93

[LonleySk8er15]

in that vid lots of the dudes had sick style...until they pushed switch mongo.

[mtvic]

Guy Mariano “mouse”
Gino Iannucci: every part
Kareem Campbell “trinity”
Mike Carroll: everything
Tom Penny: everything
Fred Gall: subzero
Marc Johnson: “7 steps to heaven”


What the fuck is op smoking. Best styles were in the nineties and laid the foundation for everything.

[Swithflip]

cultural vanguards and technical pioneers are typically more raw and wildly styled than the followers who do more of the refining, polishing, and iteration.  something when it's just being invented underground is never going to look as clean or considered as something reprocessed a million times over decades with big corporate backing.

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