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Re: Hi!
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2021, 07:18:14 PM »
really stoked that yall are southern and are down with the guys at Faith. 
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Re: Hi!
« Reply #61 on: March 17, 2021, 07:38:04 PM »
us get a discount code or free ship or group buy or? What other place can garner this type of attention and interest and sales? Your IG isn’t reaching - on the contrary literally 3 people reading this thread right this second that could be converted to sales.
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Re: Hi!
« Reply #62 on: March 17, 2021, 07:52:33 PM »
Weíre actually getting hosed on shipping.  Weíre working that out with Ship Station but absorbing some of the cost right now.

I wish we could do a discount code but I think the discount is in the product.

Youíre right.  Weíre getting a lot of attention from this forum and itís highly appreciated.  And believe me when I say it wonít be forgotten. 

Weíre not doing this strictly to make money.  Iíll be more excited to hear about people using our bearings or to see our stickers on boards in the setup thread (my most frequented thread) than I will be about any monetary gain. 

First and foremost, weíre skaters.  One just happens to be a chemist.  Itís a dream to be able to use that to benefit skateboarding. 
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Re: Hi!
« Reply #63 on: March 17, 2021, 08:00:54 PM »
Also, what should I rename the thread.  I struggled with that for 10 minutes the first night.

And thanks for the gnar.  The negative rep was eating at me.
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Re: Hi!
« Reply #64 on: March 17, 2021, 08:06:16 PM »
Not hurting for bearings but just ordered a set, happy to spread that stimmy money and try something new

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Re: Hi!
« Reply #65 on: March 17, 2021, 08:10:32 PM »
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Personally it doesn't bother me that the bearings are from China, I would bet that 99% of company bearings come from there and if it's 1 thing China excels at it's mass manufacturing. The irony is that it's unfashionable to be remotely associated with the manufacturing juggernaut.

If he bearings are quality and hit the right price point then power to you.
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People should throw out all their Televisions, Video Cards, Motherboards, RAM, CPUs and Phones while they're at it.

I never understood this argument. With the products you mention, sure its hard to avoid Chinese made. However, with skateboarding products you sometimes still can and its nice to support those options when it makes sense.

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Re: Hi!
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2021, 08:22:57 PM »
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Personally it doesn't bother me that the bearings are from China, I would bet that 99% of company bearings come from there and if it's 1 thing China excels at it's mass manufacturing. The irony is that it's unfashionable to be remotely associated with the manufacturing juggernaut.

If he bearings are quality and hit the right price point then power to you.
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People should throw out all their Televisions, Video Cards, Motherboards, RAM, CPUs and Phones while they're at it.
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I never understood this argument. With the products you mention, sure its hard to avoid Chinese made. However, with skateboarding products you sometimes still can and its nice to support those options when it makes sense.

For boards, wheels and truck yes, but bearings? Can't think of a fully made in US bearing company.

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Re: Hi!
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2021, 08:28:39 PM »
Also, what should I rename the thread.  I struggled with that for 10 minutes the first night.

And thanks for the gnar.  The negative rep was eating at me.

Anything other than "Hi!" would be better.

"New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings" comes to mind.  Although at this point "Matrix Enhanced Ceramic Nanocomposite Coated Si3N4 Ceramic Bearings for $35.95, Lab Coats Sold Separately" might be more apt until someone starts reviewing these things.

That said I purchased some bearings and I'm interested in seeing how they perform. 

Aside: Any references available on the 30+ peer-reviewed studies?

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2021, 08:59:05 PM »
so I mean, I get what you're saying you're trying to do, and if it's legit right on. but what's up with your skating. you say you're a skater first and foremost, but all we're seeing here is business and manufacturing. people might be inclined to peep your goods if you came across as likable and relatable. otherwise it's a straight business pitch and I'd rather give money to someone I know or at least a distant shop that I know actively promotes small time, local skateboarding
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2021, 09:24:48 PM »
By all means, support your local shop.  These will be in shops soon enough. 

  Weíre only able to make about 250 sets a week, right now, so theyíre only getting to a few shops each week.  Several NC shops already have them. 
  Also, a lot of shops just want to go through distributors.  Thatís something we donít have at the moment.

And my skating wonít sell these.  Iím in my 40ís.  Iím good with just bombing a small parking deck these days.  If I land a trick, itís icing on the cake.
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2021, 09:48:26 PM »
By all means, support your local shop.  These will be in shops soon enough. 

  Weíre only able to make about 250 sets a week, right now, so theyíre only getting to a few shops each week.  Several NC shops already have them. 
  Also, a lot of shops just want to go through distributors.  Thatís something we donít have at the moment.

And my skating wonít sell these.  Iím in my 40ís.  Iím good with just bombing a small parking deck these days.  If I land a trick, itís icing on the cake.

no one's trying to see you skate. I skate parking lots too. Anyone can sell skate goods and claim legitimacy, look at braille. What makes you legit other than manufacturing technology? What I'm getting at is, why should anyone here go with you over another company?
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2021, 04:35:22 AM »
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By all means, support your local shop.  These will be in shops soon enough. 

  Weíre only able to make about 250 sets a week, right now, so theyíre only getting to a few shops each week.  Several NC shops already have them. 
  Also, a lot of shops just want to go through distributors.  Thatís something we donít have at the moment.

And my skating wonít sell these.  Iím in my 40ís.  Iím good with just bombing a small parking deck these days.  If I land a trick, itís icing on the cake.
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no one's trying to see you skate. I skate parking lots too. Anyone can sell skate goods and claim legitimacy, look at braille. What makes you legit other than manufacturing technology? What I'm getting at is, why should anyone here go with you over another company?

I mean. It seems like their whole pitch is quality bearings at a lower price. Reasonably that's why people would go with them if their product turns out to be good. You said what's up with their skating then that no one wants to see them skate. No ones forcing you to buy these man, I don't think they're trying to replace bones with these.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2021, 07:18:52 AM »
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By all means, support your local shop.  These will be in shops soon enough. 

  Weíre only able to make about 250 sets a week, right now, so theyíre only getting to a few shops each week.  Several NC shops already have them. 
  Also, a lot of shops just want to go through distributors.  Thatís something we donít have at the moment.

And my skating wonít sell these.  Iím in my 40ís.  Iím good with just bombing a small parking deck these days.  If I land a trick, itís icing on the cake.
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no one's trying to see you skate. I skate parking lots too. Anyone can sell skate goods and claim legitimacy, look at braille. What makes you legit other than manufacturing technology? What I'm getting at is, why should anyone here go with you over another company?
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I mean. It seems like their whole pitch is quality bearings at a lower price. Reasonably that's why people would go with them if their product turns out to be good. You said what's up with their skating then that no one wants to see them skate. No ones forcing you to buy these man, I don't think they're trying to replace bones with these.

Lol

Not even sure this guy knows why he has a problem with them yet.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2021, 07:30:09 AM »
I'd be interested in a link to a few of these peer-reviewed papers too, I'm in material science myself

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2021, 07:40:27 AM »
wow lotta science deniers in here


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Re: Hi!
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2021, 07:43:38 AM »
they are for sure that

Chinese for sure. Cant have real ceramics that cheap.

They prob are ok, 36$ is a fair price as well.

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Re: Hi!
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2021, 07:53:52 AM »
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they are for sure that
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Chinese for sure. Cant have real ceramics that cheap.

They prob are ok, 36$ is a fair price as well.

What qualifies as real ceramics? Are ceramic products made in China fake?
Genuinely asking since I just buy bearings, I don't the science or business behind it.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2021, 08:18:58 AM »
I'd be interested in a link to a few of these peer-reviewed papers too, I'm in material science myself

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« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2021, 08:30:21 AM »
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Hehehehehe pier reviewed.
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Fixed it.  Thanks. 

All those words...

You seem to be a good sport, and Iím genuinely interested in ordering a set sometime soon.
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2021, 09:25:56 AM »
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By all means, support your local shop.  These will be in shops soon enough. 

  Weíre only able to make about 250 sets a week, right now, so theyíre only getting to a few shops each week.  Several NC shops already have them. 
  Also, a lot of shops just want to go through distributors.  Thatís something we donít have at the moment.

And my skating wonít sell these.  Iím in my 40ís.  Iím good with just bombing a small parking deck these days.  If I land a trick, itís icing on the cake.
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no one's trying to see you skate. I skate parking lots too. Anyone can sell skate goods and claim legitimacy, look at braille. What makes you legit other than manufacturing technology? What I'm getting at is, why should anyone here go with you over another company?
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I mean. It seems like their whole pitch is quality bearings at a lower price. Reasonably that's why people would go with them if their product turns out to be good. You said what's up with their skating then that no one wants to see them skate. No ones forcing you to buy these man, I don't think they're trying to replace bones with these.

What's up with their skating ie do they actually skate? Are you a long board guy? Are they kooks like braille? What are you providing other than another product? Not "how" do you skate? What tricks do you do? What do you represent?

I haven't decided whether I would or wouldn't buy a set, but when it's a new, supposed cottage industry, there's nothing wrong with asking questions
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2021, 09:27:58 AM »
If James Hardy is willing to test them, I trust them.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2021, 10:45:03 AM »
It would reassure me if other bearing brands could now make it explicit they are NOT skater designed

(Joking, I wish your company all the best)

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2021, 10:46:04 AM »
Started skating in 1990.  You were lucky to find a ramp, in the south, then, so we skated street mostly.  As time went on we found a few people with minis.  Then parks started popping up but I was in my 30ís, by then, so my transition skills were limited.  But I like to ride transition too.  These days Iím happy to skate flat ground with my kids.

From the time I got my first board, at age 15, to now, Iíve never NOT had a skateboard to ride.  Iím a lifer.

Never had a longboard but have no issue with them.  I think a few of those guys have bought and liked our bearings.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2021, 01:16:57 PM »
Started skating in 1990.  You were lucky to find a ramp, in the south, then, so we skated street mostly.  As time went on we found a few people with minis.  Then parks started popping up but I was in my 30ís, by then, so my transition skills were limited.  But I like to ride transition too.  These days Iím happy to skate flat ground with my kids.

From the time I got my first board, at age 15, to now, Iíve never NOT had a skateboard to ride.  Iím a lifer.

Never had a longboard but have no issue with them.  I think a few of those guys have bought and liked our bearings.

Thanks for sharing your story, bud. Not too different than mine. I was skating in NC around 05-07. Only park I ended up skating was in Asheville. Shit was rugged and raw otherwise.
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Re: Hi!
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2021, 01:37:20 PM »
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Personally it doesn't bother me that the bearings are from China, I would bet that 99% of company bearings come from there and if it's 1 thing China excels at it's mass manufacturing. The irony is that it's unfashionable to be remotely associated with the manufacturing juggernaut.

If he bearings are quality and hit the right price point then power to you.
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People should throw out all their Televisions, Video Cards, Motherboards, RAM, CPUs and Phones while they're at it.

Can anyone point me to where in this thread it is stated or implied that there is something wrong with Chinese bearings?

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2021, 08:31:49 PM »
Started skating in 1990.  You were lucky to find a ramp, in the south, then, so we skated street mostly.  As time went on we found a few people with minis.  Then parks started popping up but I was in my 30ís, by then, so my transition skills were limited.  But I like to ride transition too.  These days Iím happy to skate flat ground with my kids.

From the time I got my first board, at age 15, to now, Iíve never NOT had a skateboard to ride.  Iím a lifer.

Never had a longboard but have no issue with them.  I think a few of those guys have bought and liked our bearings.

get a beer-run board its great - you only need some fat wheels and risers/hardware i think it warrants another quiver anyways
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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2021, 09:04:49 PM »
Quick piece of feedback: maybe mack a page on the site with a little infographic explaining the difference between the three models. A lot of the info in the product descriptions is a bit hard to digest as a layman. Thinking about picking up a set, can't be any worse than the bronsons I have in my cruiser.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2021, 09:35:54 PM »
Quick piece of feedback: maybe mack a page on the site with a little infographic explaining the difference between the three models. A lot of the info in the product descriptions is a bit hard to digest as a layman. Thinking about picking up a set, can't be any worse than the bronsons I have in my cruiser.
After talking with Jason from Quantum Bearing Science, the difference is in the material the balls are made from. From least expensive to most you have: carbon steel, ZrO2, and Si3N4.  The last two being ceramic, of which Si3N4 is the lightest. The lighter the material, the faster you can roll the bearings. Also, there's the whole GraphFlo SCIENCE, which from what I can tell is basically a solid lubricant coating that gets baked in.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2021, 08:40:24 AM »
while we're in here, what exactly makes a good bearing? as a kid i thought bearings were the most interesting part of the setup cause they seemed so technical and complex compared to other parts like a wooden deck, then it dawned on me they were mostly the same, some just lasted longer.

outer races, cages, balls, shields, lube, thats pretty much it.

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Re: "New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings"
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2021, 09:25:32 AM »
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Quick piece of feedback: maybe mack a page on the site with a little infographic explaining the difference between the three models. A lot of the info in the product descriptions is a bit hard to digest as a layman. Thinking about picking up a set, can't be any worse than the bronsons I have in my cruiser.
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After talking with Jason from Quantum Bearing Science, the difference is in the material the balls are made from. From least expensive to most you have: carbon steel, ZrO2, and Si3N4.  The last two being ceramic, of which Si3N4 is the lightest. The lighter the material, the faster you can roll the bearings. Also, there's the whole GraphFlo SCIENCE, which from what I can tell is basically a solid lubricant coating that gets baked in.
i agree with lovermangenius, outside of price theres nothing to show the average joe "good, better, best"
as a buyer for shops, i think marketing takes a huge step in this catagory outside of the sales person actually saying "buy reds, or if you want to go fast get swiss"
one thing i would critique would be the photos are a little dark and out of focus, that can go a long way on presentation for a new brand.