@useless_wooden_knowledge vs Evergreen Skateparks/Bad Park Design

[Nosferatu]

Thank you for bumping my thread. Worth shitting on these guys again.

[The real veganshawn]

Love evergreen parks

[sharkjumper]

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Wild to put an image from House Park in Austin in there and call it bad design. That’s one of the best “please everyone” parks I’ve been to. Has a bit of everything and some unique features too. I’d say it’s a good example to follow for park design.

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This photo does not make it look fun! The rest of the park is way cooler but I chose these images for the obstacles being showcased. I wanna skate the bank to ledge but then I'm in the way of someone hitting the 3 block, who's standing in front of the ledge up top waiting to throw down.

Have you been to House Park? It is very fun. And no design is perfect or going to please everyone. This second photo is only 1/3 of the park.

Was your original point that there shouldn’t be stairs? 

[sharkjumper]

Park builder here. IMO any small town park that doesn't have a decent ledge, flat bar and quarterpipe is a disservice to the community and disregards the skate culture.

We find ourselves squeezed between innovation and functionality. We try to please our construction crew by always building crazier, more unique shit that's gonna go viral on social media, while the users often want the most basic stuff that they understand and can see themselves skating. We often propose a flowy section with a mix of unique transition obstacles but you gotta deal with the users on the commitee/town etc. Those include the middle aged helmet dude who got back on board for his midlife crisis and wants his 2' mellow mini ramp because that's what he knows. These guys somehow always ends up being the shotcallers we gotta deal with and get stuck with their narrow vision of what the park could be.

Im not even a transition guy. If i was to design the parks for me it would be mellow, long street stuff but this is not where park builders get their satisfaction. The crew is obviously prouder to build a crazy moonscape that's super smooth than a basic set of stairs where you can't flex your concrete skills.

That being said, Evergreen truly blows with these unidimensional parks. Imagine how many kids could have got hooked on skating but instead got bored having only this. We're already competing with pumptracks that take up half of skatepark budgets nowadays, no need to do the same out of concrete.

Thank you for your service. I’m sure it gets frustrating dealing with the design process.
Glad you try to get the basic and fun obstacles into every park.

[A Not At All Naughty Chemist]

I don't like modern parks and I don't gain any satisfaction when skating one. I love the shitty older 'basic' parks where conditions are so bad that it's basically street skating, but i'm just weird like that.

Alas, I've come to the realisation that all the new parks are not for 'us' skateboarders. It's for scootering youth and little kids on bikes. New parks are filled to the brim with them and any government official walking by would see it and think 'It's being used and enjoyed, how swell!"

We have created a golem. Built our own demise bla bla etc, etc.


Lastly I'll share: I fucking hate the new style of 'floating' ledges. Fuck off with that shit. I want a box straight and simple. Where, if possible, one could wallride onto should one feel inclined to do so.