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Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« on: April 07, 2021, 07:03:55 PM »
Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 06:06:18 AM »
they also have a kingpin that rattles loose CONSTANTLY if you run your trucks loose
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 06:23:11 AM »
If everyone started skating ace or thunder/venture indy would become a tshirt company at pacsun like rip and dip or Hurley

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 06:31:46 AM »
Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?

I think it’s just that we choose to ignore it.

I don’t run indys, there for I don’t care.
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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 07:32:08 AM »
159/169/215 have always had six holes. You're late to the game with just figuring this out. Reissue/Collector/Shaped Deck market is huge so you need six hole trucks to set up a lot of these decks. Weird one to get your panties in a wad over.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 10:02:16 AM »
wow pretty damming evidence here

how will indy ever recovery?

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 10:29:04 AM »
I don't really see what the big deal is, they make the trucks lighter which is a plus in my book. If you really don't want them and don't want to switch to any other truck company just swap out the baseplates for ones from Indys size 149 and smaller

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 10:34:49 AM »
If everyone started skating ace or thunder/venture indy would become a tshirt company at pacsun like rip and dip or Hurley

But Indy makes better trucks than all of the above.

Venture makes better soft goods than trucks.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 11:26:50 AM »
Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?

retro stuff is huge

get a clue

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 12:00:13 PM »
On the bright side it’s a tiny bit of weight reduction

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 01:19:00 PM »
If everyone started skating ace or thunder/venture indy would become a tshirt company at pacsun like rip and dip or Hurley

My understanding about the recent shake-ups with long-time pros at Indy is that, amongst other things, the new ownership of Independent wanted to turn the whole thing into a "lifestyle" brand in the same way Thrasher had managed to become *haute couture*.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 02:18:08 PM »
Most of truck brands that were around when they used the wide holes on decks still have six holes on some models; Gullwing, indy, tracker. Kinda wish venture had a six hole plate like they used to.

ill take all the holes i can get



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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 05:49:22 PM »
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Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?
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retro stuff is huge

get a clue

Yeah I know, but I don't understand why anyone would continue to use the old bolt pattern on a reissued or old school style board. What's the advantage? The only thing I could think of is that having the bolts spaced slightly further apart makes for a more stable truck interface, but it seems like it would be pretty minimal. And I guess you could use old trucks with the old bolt pattern, but it seems like very few people would be doing that.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 06:37:28 PM »
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Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?
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retro stuff is huge

get a clue
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Yeah I know, but I don't understand why anyone would continue to use the old bolt pattern on a reissued or old school style board. What's the advantage? The only thing I could think of is that having the bolts spaced slightly further apart makes for a more stable truck interface, but it seems like it would be pretty minimal. And I guess you could use old trucks with the old bolt pattern, but it seems like very few people would be doing that.

Makes it an exact replica of the original

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2021, 06:39:03 PM »
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ill take all the holes i can get
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8 hole.



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Haha the pivot looks like someone fucked up the loft feature when they were designing these on solidworks.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2021, 07:23:30 PM »
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Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?
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retro stuff is huge

get a clue
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Yeah I know, but I don't understand why anyone would continue to use the old bolt pattern on a reissued or old school style board. What's the advantage? The only thing I could think of is that having the bolts spaced slightly further apart makes for a more stable truck interface, but it seems like it would be pretty minimal. And I guess you could use old trucks with the old bolt pattern, but it seems like very few people would be doing that.
You're at the mercy of manufacturers if you're into retro gear. Most of them use the current hole pattern but every once in a while somebody uses the old school pattern. Boom you just bought a wall hanger even if you didn't mean to. With 6 holes, your covered. It's been pointed out but it's not an accident that they come on trucks 159 and up in size. For the record, I bought 169 Tits and was bummed that forged plates only have current bolt hole patterns.
Also if i thought a mob of yewwing sweaty californians were about to wrap me up in a pabst-scented covid group hug I'd start pushing the fuck out of there too

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2021, 07:45:52 PM »
less weight yo.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2021, 08:56:35 PM »
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Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?
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retro stuff is huge

get a clue
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Yeah I know, but I don't understand why anyone would continue to use the old bolt pattern on a reissued or old school style board. What's the advantage? The only thing I could think of is that having the bolts spaced slightly further apart makes for a more stable truck interface, but it seems like it would be pretty minimal. And I guess you could use old trucks with the old bolt pattern, but it seems like very few people would be doing that.

there is no advantage. but the retro guys are crazy and basically demand the stuff is all exact OG replica. if you check out their forums (don't) half the old posts are about "why can't I get trucks with the old hole pattern??" most of the reissues are with the new hole pattern but sometimes the manufacturers are like "here's the REAL OG sims hang 10 cement surfer with the old holes " and charge more for it...   but also there is (or was) a surprising amount of NOS or hardly used old boards out there with the old holes. like a real, 40 year old board will have the old holes

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2021, 12:06:17 AM »
I tried drilling old style front holes on modern Indys using old Stage 7 baseplates as a jig. It's more difficult than it seems, especially if you're using a hand drill. In hindsight, drilling new school holes in the deck would have been easier.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2021, 04:38:43 AM »
Just ride Aces.
feels like shitting backwards

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2021, 09:49:46 PM »
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If everyone started skating ace or thunder/venture indy would become a tshirt company at pacsun like rip and dip or Hurley
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My understanding about the recent shake-ups with long-time pros at Indy is that, amongst other things, the new ownership of Independent wanted to turn the whole thing into a "lifestyle" brand in the same way Thrasher had managed to become *haute couture*.
I might be wrong, but last time I checked Indy was still owned by Novak, Haut, & Shuirman Inc.
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Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?
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retro stuff is huge

get a clue
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Yeah I know, but I don't understand why anyone would continue to use the old bolt pattern on a reissued or old school style board. What's the advantage? The only thing I could think of is that having the bolts spaced slightly further apart makes for a more stable truck interface, but it seems like it would be pretty minimal. And I guess you could use old trucks with the old bolt pattern, but it seems like very few people would be doing that.
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Makes it an exact replica of the original
I mean... not really.
The original (whatever they’re repro-ing this month) set ups were not likely running Indy stage 11s, but at least with those 215s, you can nail down a certain chunk of the mid 80s fairly well.
Still, I take your point. And at least from the top, you can get that look/feel.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2021, 11:57:35 PM »

Haha the pivot looks like someone fucked up the loft feature when they were designing these on solidworks.
Hahahaha I didn't ever think I'd read a Solidworks feature on slap. Would gnar. They probably mirrored the holes.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2021, 12:11:14 AM »
I forgot all about that time when boards came with 12 holes instead of six. Cant find a picture so I will leave this here instead. I was the only skateboarder in my high school and had a Frankie Hill sweater with the dog.


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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2021, 02:26:15 AM »
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Haha the pivot looks like someone fucked up the loft feature when they were designing these on solidworks.
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Hahahaha I didn't ever think I'd read a Solidworks feature on slap. Would gnar. They probably mirrored the holes.

8 holes actually make sense, because you can adjust your wheelbase with 8 holes.

6 holes makes no sense to me.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2021, 08:43:15 AM »
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Makes it an exact replica of the original
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I mean... not really.
The original (whatever they’re repro-ing this month) set ups were not likely running Indy stage 11s, but at least with those 215s, you can nail down a certain chunk of the mid 80s fairly well.
Still, I take your point. And at least from the top, you can get that look/feel.

I run all my reissues with NOS Gullwings and Trackers that are still floating around in shops and online. I think there are enough reissues with original 2.5 inch truck holes to answer OP's question, though.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2021, 08:45:15 AM »
8 holes actually make sense, because you can adjust your wheelbase with 8 holes.

6 holes makes no sense to me.

Trucks usually outlast boards, and you can use a 6 hole baseplate on both old and new school truck holes.

You don't need extra holes in your baseplate for decks with adjustable wheelbases. If you were just using different holes, the baseplate wouldn't move and your wheelbase wouldn't change.

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Re: Why are they making six hole trucks again?
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2021, 09:35:12 AM »
Indy currently has a couple trucks that have both the standard and old school drillings (6 holes total). Why? Didn't we figure it out in the 90s that if you drill the holes back further you won't ruin your bolts on nose slides? Are there really that many people setting up old school boards with the old bolt pattern that require 6 hole baseplates? Does anybody actually care about nerdy shit like this other than me?

Some reissuse decks like Powell Peralta only come with the old school bolt patterns. This is why Indy 109/159/169/215s come with a 6 hole baseplate while the other ones only come with 4 holes.