Thanks for the feedback everybody! Sometimes a little lift can help, especially on a taller Slappy crook, or when learning feebles, but not necessary. But I’m definitely not a gatekeeper of it, like how some people say it doesn’t count if you do any lift whatsoever. Once you learn a trick your technique will naturally refine over time. And the moderate speed thing is more an encouragement to not go slow, I see people trying to learn them while going slow and it just makes everything about it way harder. Once you get them down you can start going faster and faster, nothing like a fast, controlled Slappy. I’m thinking about doing a video on the basic Slappy bs 5050 cause a few people asked me. Thanks again yall!