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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #240 on: May 04, 2021, 04:44:24 PM »
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Do you want your money going to this guy



or this guy?



I couldn't care less that Mike Carroll is not down at the orphanage feeding hungry infants. He's a skateboarder and the other guy is some fucking rich yuppie who can't ollie.
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Mike Carroll's history in skateboarding: (born August 24, 1975) is a professional skateboarder from Daly City, California, United States. He is the co-founder and vice-president of Girl Skateboards and the co-founder of Lakai Limited Footwear.[2] He was also instrumental in the creation of the Chocolate Skateboards subdivision of Girl. Furthermore, Carroll is known for being in the vanguard of innovative, technical, and stylish street skateboarding in the early 1990s and beyond. The success of skateboarding videos like Hokus Pokus, Ban This! and Video Days firmly ensconced street as the premier variation of skating (a position formally held by freestyle and especially vert skateboarding).[3]

Nike CEO, John Donahoe's history in skateboarding:  (born April 30, 1960)[1] is an American businessman who is the CEO of Nike. Early in his career he worked for Bain & Company, becoming the firm's president and CEO in 1999.[2] He is on the board of directors at Nike,[3] The Bridgespan Group [4] and is chairman of PayPal. Donahoe was named president and CEO of ServiceNow, a cloud company, in February 2017.[5][6] He served on the Board of Trustees of Dartmouth College from 2003 to 2012.[7] On January 13, 2020, Donahoe became president and CEO of Nike.

You decide, who probably deserves to sell skate shoes
the idea that someone DESERVES to sell the byproduct of slave labor is fucking hysterical

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #241 on: May 04, 2021, 05:40:20 PM »
Y’all might want to change Mike Carrol’s picture to which ever suit wearing old white man’s venture capital firm owns Lakai this week
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #242 on: May 04, 2021, 11:21:30 PM »
Y’all might want to change Mike Carrol’s picture to which ever suit wearing old white man’s venture capital firm owns Lakai this week

Lakai is part of Huf Worldwide which is owned by TSI Holdings which is run by Shinichi Uetadani
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #243 on: May 04, 2021, 11:53:56 PM »
Lakai hasn't been skated owned for years. Someone with better google skills, find the interview with Huf where he says that skater owned is basically bullshit.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #244 on: May 05, 2021, 12:03:31 AM »
It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #245 on: May 05, 2021, 12:18:00 AM »
“Skater-owned” should generally be seen as “skater-started” these days ... almost none are still owned by skaters.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #246 on: May 05, 2021, 02:10:00 AM »
It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.


Do you close your eyes when someone in Nike SB's is on the screen in the video you're watching?

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #247 on: May 05, 2021, 02:27:02 AM »
It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.


the best choice would be to just lay down on the grass and and stand up to eat food while being naked. that would be the smartest form of human kind and the least destructive.

incredible how stupid people are to be interested in design. all these sheeps with their pea brains that buy marketed products.

seems like they fired you because you are unable to work with a huge brain like yours.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #248 on: May 05, 2021, 07:38:04 AM »
I can’t believe it’s 2021 and the grown-ass adults on Slap are still complaining about “trends”, like you’re an 8th grade skater mad at a cheerleader for wearing a Thrasher hoodie.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #249 on: May 05, 2021, 07:42:58 AM »
I can’t believe it’s 2021 and the grown-ass adults on Slap are still complaining about “trends”, like you’re an 8th grade skater mad at a cheerleader for wearing a Thrasher hoodie.
yeah, i am. fuck her. that’s the bible. she doesn’t even know who fucking spider is. yeeeewwwww

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #250 on: May 05, 2021, 08:37:05 AM »
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I can’t believe it’s 2021 and the grown-ass adults on Slap are still complaining about “trends”, like you’re an 8th grade skater mad at a cheerleader for wearing a Thrasher hoodie.
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Its attitudes like this that got us to the point now that we have no diversity in shoe or soft good brands.

You mean you don’t love that skateboarding is so diluted from going mainstream we have an increasing number of skate parents forcing kids to get all hell ride at the park?

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #251 on: May 05, 2021, 08:52:20 AM »
It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.

This is basically what hating Nike in skateboarding comes down to. 

“Nike is jocks and jocks were mean to me so Nike is bad”. 

Seems like a pretty well adjusted, not at all childish, “adult human in 2021” opinion to have
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #252 on: May 05, 2021, 09:15:11 AM »
I don’t like Nike because I can’t buy dunks anymore.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #253 on: May 05, 2021, 09:41:31 AM »
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Do you want your money going to this guy

or this guy?



I couldn't care less that Mike Carroll is not down at the orphanage feeding hungry infants. He's a skateboarder and the other guy is some fucking rich yuppie who can't ollie.
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thread finished. nuff said
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Mike Carroll's history in skateboarding: (born August 24, 1975) is a professional skateboarder from Daly City, California, United States. He is the co-founder and vice-president of Girl Skateboards and the co-founder of Lakai Limited Footwear.[2] He was also instrumental in the creation of the Chocolate Skateboards subdivision of Girl. Furthermore, Carroll is known for being in the vanguard of innovative, technical, and stylish street skateboarding in the early 1990s and beyond. The success of skateboarding videos like Hokus Pokus, Ban This! and Video Days firmly ensconced street as the premier variation of skating (a position formally held by freestyle and especially vert skateboarding).[3]

Nike CEO, John Donahoe's history in skateboarding:  (born April 30, 1960)[1] is an American businessman who is the CEO of Nike. Early in his career he worked for Bain & Company, becoming the firm's president and CEO in 1999.[2] He is on the board of directors at Nike,[3] The Bridgespan Group [4] and is chairman of PayPal. Donahoe was named president and CEO of ServiceNow, a cloud company, in February 2017.[5][6] He served on the Board of Trustees of Dartmouth College from 2003 to 2012.[7] On January 13, 2020, Donahoe became president and CEO of Nike.

You decide, who probably deserves to sell skate shoes

seems like a tie to me

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #254 on: May 05, 2021, 09:53:27 AM »
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It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.
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This is basically what hating Nike in skateboarding comes down to. 

“Nike is jocks and jocks were mean to me so Nike is bad”. 

Seems like a pretty well adjusted, not at all childish, “adult human in 2021” opinion to have

I've been trying to avoid this going-nowhere debate, but come on, this is a reductionist misrepresentation of what backside_reacharound said.

His words are not what "hating Nike in skateboarding" comes down to, in fact, they seem to be applied to Nike as a whole, not the SB program. There are several takes on why the check sucks, this is just one of them.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #255 on: May 05, 2021, 01:19:07 PM »
Haha, this really is amazing. Imagine riding a corporations dick, what brain space must you have to be in for that to seem even remotely reasonable? Shouts out to Adam Smith though I guess, hey?


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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #256 on: May 05, 2021, 01:33:32 PM »
Kinda weird seeing people passionately defend multibillion corporations as if they’re an extension of themselves. It would be like seeing someone with a Unilever tattoo.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #257 on: May 05, 2021, 01:56:44 PM »
Kinda weird seeing people passionately defend multibillion corporations as if they’re an extension of themselves. It would be like seeing someone with a Unilever tattoo.

Lol

So true

People view these things as an extension of themselves.

I think it's largely an American phenomenon arising in the last few decades.



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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #258 on: May 05, 2021, 02:14:56 PM »
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Kinda weird seeing people passionately defend multibillion corporations as if they’re an extension of themselves. It would be like seeing someone with a Unilever tattoo.
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Lol

So true

People view these things as an extension of themselves.

I think it's largely an American phenomenon arising in the last few decades.

My general take is that Americans have become so politically disempowered over the past half century that the only sense of autonomy they experience arises in the consumer sphere.  Thus, the only meaningful choices they sense are available to them are in what products they choose to buy, and finding a genuinely enjoyable product to buy is so rare that it often gets incorporated into certain people's identities. This is why the fleeting, symbolic boycotts of certain companies in the wake of public controversies is the only "political act" for which large numbers of Americans have the capacity.

This country is terrible and the brains of most people in it are too ruined for them to even be able to realize the truth of that statement.  Almost all of my days are a see-saw between gnawing despair and attempts at stoical detachment.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #259 on: May 05, 2021, 02:27:58 PM »
The whole problem is that Nike is simply too powerful and too entrenched in the global economy to change without wanting to first.  And changes in consumer's buying habits will likely never amount to as much as it would take to get Nike to want to change

This is why people should shelve their "I buy core" BS in circumstances where they should be talking about stricter antitrust and labor regulations. Those who don't believe in a real political solution, i.e. Nike (as what it currently is) being more or less regulated out of existence, should just settle for the nice feeling it gives them to traffic in more authentic and personally nostalgic commodities, and not take the unnecessarily self-important step of imagining this has any objective standing or real significance outside their head/parts of their cultural cohort

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You decide, who probably deserves to sell skate shoes
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the idea that someone DESERVES to sell the byproduct of slave labor is fucking hysterical

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #260 on: May 05, 2021, 02:37:56 PM »
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Kinda weird seeing people passionately defend multibillion corporations as if they’re an extension of themselves. It would be like seeing someone with a Unilever tattoo.
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Lol

So true

People view these things as an extension of themselves.

I think it's largely an American phenomenon arising in the last few decades.
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My general take is that Americans have become so politically disempowered over the past half century that the only sense of autonomy they experience arises in the consumer sphere.  Thus, the only meaningful choices they sense are available to them are in what products they choose to buy, and finding a genuinely enjoyable product to buy is so rare that it often gets incorporated into certain people's identities. This is why the fleeting, symbolic boycotts of certain companies in the wake of public controversies is the only "political act" for which large numbers of Americans have the capacity.

This country is terrible and the brains of most people in it are too ruined for them to even be able to realize the truth of that statement.  Almost all of my days are a see-saw between gnawing despair and attempts at stoical detachment.

Lol Americans will defend billionaires for no reason other than "capitalism good. Socialism bad". Let's not forget that millions of Americans wanted Trump back in office for a second term. LOL Murca!

Silly Americans.

Edit: Am American.

 I meet up with her and I'm like wtf and she's got a baby stroller with her pushing it and she's pretty fat now


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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #261 on: May 05, 2021, 03:23:38 PM »
It's 2021 and there are adult humans that defend Nike? A company that prefers to hire former college athletes and has a the ultimate jock-bro culture? Have any of you even been on their campus? I worked there and it's absolute trash.

If you buy that shit you're literally handing over money to 1) show everyone that fashion trends and simple marketing work wonders on your pea brain, and 2) to line the pockets of Nike business bros that probably spent their younger days yelling "skater fag!" at any skateboarder they saw.

Wearing Nikes shows you're completely braindead, and spending money on them is completely indefensible.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #262 on: May 05, 2021, 03:24:38 PM »
tyson Peterson riding a suv in la traffic while having dreadlocks and saying fuck the police is the american way of saying fuck capitalism


i don't need to defend nike they win against every shitty company that made shitty skate shoes over the years and will because of that succeed at what they are doing.

doing sports and training to be an athlete is something you should be proud of.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #263 on: May 05, 2021, 03:27:51 PM »
tyson Peterson riding a suv in la traffic while having dreadlocks and saying fuck the police is the american way of saying fuck capitalism


i don't need to defend nike they win against every shitty company that made shitty skate shoes over the years and will because of that succeed at what they are doing.

doing sports and training to be an athlete is something you should be proud of.

The American way of saying fuck capitalism is generally to do more capitalism, idk what you're talking about and you sound deranged.

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« Reply #264 on: May 05, 2021, 03:38:09 PM »
Reading through this thread through my naturally occurring and hardly-alterable Leftist lens has me shaking my head.

If you're going to buy Nike, just own up to their business practices not being problematic for you. I have zero reason to think Converse, Adidas, NB etc are much different. These companies all fucking suck for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality and skatability of the shoes they produce. Sorry to be the one to tell you.

I am not saying Lakai is any better or worse - I dont know/understand their supply chain, labor policies, or sustainability practices. Stuff that's kind of well-documented for Nike, but I am willing to bet it isn't great and is rooted in profit first over anything else, including Slap Pal's perspective on what's core or not.

As far as what's core, that ship sailed a long time ago in shoes. You can be angry about it, but this is the result of Nike's very successful strategy of infiltrating the market when and how it did and how all the other corps followed suit.

I said it in the other thread - Consolidated warned people. As corny as it was, and as corny as Consolidated is/was - they were still right. Vans might be the worst offender. Yeah, we all love Love Letters, yeah, they've done a lot of cool shit, built some rad parks etc etc but VF is interested in what's core as long as it supports the bottom line.

I guess supporting Sole Tech is an option that feels better, but I'd be interested in seeing their books and understanding how leveraged they are and how that position may have improved after the financial crisis in 2008.

Bottom line: shoes are fucked. Nike is the worst option (as well as the worst thing in skateboarding) for lots and lots of reasons that I dont need to rehash.

Now excuse me while I go put my Last Resort's on to go skate.



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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #265 on: May 05, 2021, 03:41:24 PM »
tyson Peterson riding a suv in la traffic while having dreadlocks and saying fuck the police is the american way of saying fuck capitalism


i don't need to defend nike they win against every shitty company that made shitty skate shoes over the years and will because of that succeed at what they are doing.

doing sports and training to be an athlete is something you should be proud of.


Seek help.
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #266 on: May 05, 2021, 04:21:56 PM »
I had a shower thought this morning that I thought was funny. If Nike did shut down the SB program then the Terp shoe curse will finally be complete. Kevin Terpening will have proven that he is truly the grim reaper of shoe companies. eS, Gravis, Huf, and soon Nike SB

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #267 on: May 05, 2021, 04:30:42 PM »
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Kinda weird seeing people passionately defend multibillion corporations as if they’re an extension of themselves. It would be like seeing someone with a Unilever tattoo.
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Lol

So true

People view these things as an extension of themselves.

I think it's largely an American phenomenon arising in the last few decades.

they're really trynna connect us to our purchases nowadays, its like a new form of religion

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #268 on: May 05, 2021, 04:38:46 PM »
I miss the days when skate shoe brands were built around a group of skaters who were friends. The Nike team is just a pile of skaters with no personal cohesion. Sure, there are people who are friends within the team, but the team is built around the brand and that rings hollow to me.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #269 on: May 05, 2021, 04:42:43 PM »
I would love to see Nike go under, I would miss blazers mids tho.