The Official SLAP Propagandhi Thread

[JRF]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNLY_sR1xs


This interview with Chris Hannah is pretty good.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

updated my criteria for top ten songs and have a rough draft of my picks.

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1. You must choose one song from each album (for the sake of convenience, you can just class the quality double 7” and flag burning as the “where quantity is job #1” CD if you like, so 8 albums in total. (HTCE, Quantity(and/ or IRBFB ), LTMR, TETA, PCL, SC, FS, VL)

2. You must choose at least one John K Samson track (Gifts, Anchorless, Showdown, letter or resignation), or at least one song where you can hear him audibly on backups I.e. the state lottery.)

3. You must choose at least one Todd song (duh).

4. One track from each release means you’ll cover The Beave and Sulynn eras.

5. You can only choose a maximum of 3 opening tracks.

6. You can only choose a maximum of 3 closing tracks

7. No more than 3 songs off of any one album.

8 You must include at least one deep cut (bonus/ demo/ live/ alternative track, a cover (either a cover they did or a propagandhi cover done by another band e.g. Nasum, the weakerthans), or a song not released on any of the 8 albums album listed above e.g. letter of resignation, homophobes are just pissed, oka everywhere acoustic etc.)
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I think it's a bit more well-rounded and challenging now

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I actually audition for the back guitarist job.

wait, what?
and yes, that interview is great, re-watching it for the 3rd or so time

[JRF]

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I actually audition for the back guitarist job.

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wait, what?
and yes, that interview is great, re-watching it for the 3rd or so time

Yeah, it was the open audition you could send in to the band,, sorry if it sounded like I meant that I auditioned with the band (that was not the case and im sorry if what I wrote sounded misleading), what I meant is I sent in the tracks they asked for (at least 2 out of the 3 or 4 and also 2 tracks I chose (rock for sustainable capitalism and sandor katze if I remember correctly)

[JRF]

updated my criteria for top ten songs and have a rough draft of my picks.

***
1. You must choose one song from each album (for the sake of convenience, you can just class the quality double 7” and flag burning as the “where quantity is job #1” CD if you like, so 8 albums in total. (HTCE, Quantity(and/ or IRBFB ), LTMR, TETA, PCL, SC, FS, VL)

2. You must choose at least one John K Samson track (Gifts, Anchorless, Showdown, letter or resignation), or at least one song where you can hear him audibly on backups I.e. the state lottery.)

3. You must choose at least one Todd song (duh).

4. One track from each release means you’ll cover The Beave and Sulynn eras.

5. You can only choose a maximum of 3 opening tracks.

6. You can only choose a maximum of 3 closing tracks

7. No more than 3 songs off of any one album.

8 You must include at least one deep cut (bonus/ demo/ live/ alternative track, a cover (either a cover they did or a propagandhi cover done by another band e.g. Nasum, the weakerthans), or a song not released on any of the 8 albums album listed above e.g. letter of resignation, homophobes are just pissed, oka everywhere acoustic etc.)
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I think it's a bit more well-rounded and challenging now

For question #8

“Contest song” from “where quantity is Job 1.

And for the cover song? I gotta go with shai hulud‘a cover of “hate myth muscle etiquette” due to how awesome the guitar track is during the lyric verse breaks (the guitar part right after the lyrics “I/you need a good kick in the ass, even tough they play a couple of the notes wrong)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsf2-66RKpU

[JRF]

Bonus question #9

Favorite propagandhi cameo on another band’s album.

I’ll have to go with protest the hero’s song “sex tapes” where Chris Hannah sings a verse from 1:02 to 1:13



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Quv-Y5um4Ic

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

@JRF nerd status achieved! never heard that hate, myth, muscle, etiquette cover. hell, you hardly hear any HTCE covers in general, that's the only one I can think of!
I used to think the only person qualified to cover their songs was Jenn so I'll dedicate this one to you because I know you said this track was one of your faves off of PCL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKfJkpukYU
(she also does a great purina hall of fame cover)

Your bonus question is super hard, because there is only like 3 songs that exist right lol?
here's mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLWmmczxk0
never thought I'd ever hear Chris sing about skateboarding, but I guess he could draw some similarities to hockey too?

[JRF]

@JRF nerd status achieved! never heard that hate, myth, muscle, etiquette cover. hell, you hardly hear any HTCE covers in general, that's the only one I can think of!
I used to think the only person qualified to cover their songs was Jenn so I'll dedicate this one to you because I know you said this track was one of your faves off of PCL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKfJkpukYU
(she also does a great purina hall of fame cover)

Your bonus question is super hard, because there is only like 3 songs that exist right lol?
here's mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLWmmczxk0
never thought I'd ever hear Chris sing about skateboarding, but I guess he could draw some similarities to hockey too?

Damn! That cover was fucking beautiful! And that’s the first time I’ve ever heard “antillectual” and that song was amazing, I had to look up the lyrics for that song and I gotta say that this lyrics are amazing and Chris Hannah singing on it was fucking amazing.. I saw propagandhi in the early to mid 90’s live and chris and Jord wore skateboarding t-shirts often, but they were always shirts from small (and sometimes long gone) skateboarding companies (I.E companies like “small room” and adrenaline) also, propagandhi sent out plenty of “cease and desist” orders on there songs being used in snow and skateboarding videos, my part with “showdown G.E.P” was never hit with a cease and desist, but I think that it’s more because it flew under the radar than the band approving of the song being used…

[JRF]

Another protest the hero song, the lyrics for the song are all about how propagandhi changed there lives, it’s basically a song of praise for propagandhi.. the lyrics are pretty awesome. I guess this could be another bonus question of “Bands writing song lyrics about propagandhi” but I think that’s an even shorter list and the only other  2 songs written about them by other bands are “nofx” single cell organism” (i think that’s the name) and lagwagon’s song “rifle”… but both of those song’s lyrics are about talking bad about Chris Hannah, so they’re not exactly good examples since they are ant-Chris Hannah songs…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jFDfmw1N4w

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Yeah that’s protest the hero’s version of the bangers embrace huh? (Confession time: I don’t really like protest the hero to be honest)
Good call on one-called organism, it’s not a bad song per se, but propagandhi and nofx were so over each other at that point it was kinda bound to happen, and Mike was hardly going to let them get away with rock for sustainable capitalism without a rebuttal. The Marxist brothers also references “eBay bidding on TETA on Soviet red vinyl” in the lyrics, but that’s not a direct diss track as far as I know!
Chris’ response on the old G7 podcast is kinda hilarious too!

I initially thought this big wig track was a jab at them, but it seems it was more like a jab at propgandhi fans who couldn’t understand or relate with their message(s), or at least I read that in an interview somewhere.
https://youtu.be/gSON7_q41Rc

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

P.s. this is my rough draft (in chronological order)

Chronological order/ rough cut：

Showdown (HTCE, John Track)
Oka everywhere (IRBFB)
Nailing Descartes (LTMR)
Mate ka moris (TETA, opening track #1)
Speculative fiction (PCL, opening track #2)
Night letters (SC, Todd track #1, opening track #3)
Supporting Caste (SC)
Duplicate Keys Icaro (FS, closing track #1)
The days you hate yourself (FS, Todd track #2, deep cut)
Zoochosis (VL, closing track #2)

But it’s still a work in process … and I wanted to include note to self and rattan came somewhere

@cucktard where you at?

Edit: duplicate keys is a failed states track

[JRF]

P.s. this is my rough draft (in chronicle order)

Chronological order/ rough cut：

Showdown (HTCE, John Track)
Oka everywhere (IRBFB)
Nailing Descartes (LTMR)
Mate ka moris (TETA, opening track #1)
Speculative fiction (PCL, opening track #2)
Night letters (SC, Todd track #1, opening track #3)
Supporting Caste (SC)
Duplicate Keys Icaro (SC, closing track #1)
The days you hate yourself (FS, Todd track #2, deep cut)
Zoochosis (VL, closing track #2)

But it’s still a work in process … and I wanted to include note to self and rattan came somewhere

@cucktard where you at?

That’s a proper list right there. Something I often think about is what if Todd played and sung John K propagandhi songs? I can only imagine what “anchorless” would sound like! Haha!

[JRF]

Yeah that’s protest the hero’s version of the bangers embrace huh? (Confession time: I don’t really like protest the hero to be honest)
Good call on one-called organism, it’s not a bad song per se, but propagandhi and nofx were so over each other at that point it was kinda bound to happen, and Mike was hardly going to let them get away with rock for sustainable capitalism without a rebuttal. The Marxist brothers also references “eBay bidding on TETA on Soviet red vinyl” in the lyrics, but that’s not a direct diss track as far as I know!
Chris’ response on the old G7 podcast is kinda hilarious too!

I initially thought this big wig track was a jab at them, but it seems it was more like a jab at propgandhi fans who couldn’t understand or relate with their message(s), or at least I read that in an interview somewhere.
https://youtu.be/gSON7_q41Rc

Yeah man, I read interview with them talking about how it wasn’t intended to be a diss at propagandhi at all and how they played shows with them in the early days and were big fans and friends with the band. Later bigwig albums are straight fucking fire! This song is definitely in my top five favorite thrash metal/punk post hardcore songs ever written, such a fucking masterpiece!


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TpXcdMiPtao

Bigwig is another band that the lead singer is also the lead guitarist that can shred some. crazy fast guitar solos while singing. Got to see them play live back in ‘03, or ‘04 iirc, they were super fucking good live.

I’m not a huge protest the hero fan either, I like the album “fortress” and respect the fact that the guitarists are ridiculously talented. And they both Thor guitarists did write all the propagandhi guitar tablature books, but I’m not a big fan of the majority of their music, I like some of it, but not that much of it..

[JRF]

That song “owned and operated” is fucking super fucking hard to play on the guitar “the picking rhythm” during the chorus parts of the song (disarm, and put away your pride, one patriotic ego yet we struggle to survive) is so tight and has so much groove to it, and really fucking hard to play correctly too..

[JRF]

Unless, one day they decide to play “hate myth muscle etiquette” live, this is probably my favorite live performance of them right now

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--BMNVwSYlQ

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I'm on a comply/ resist trip at the moment actually! SHREDS!!!!

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Too hard to chose a fave live track(s) (because I love the old footage with John at gilman etc.)
but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH16PE-_Dlw
the longer/ louder intro on that is divine! “Lick my bag” hahahaha

and since you mentioned different members singing different songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e846wK8vo1s
Chris singing a Todd track is a nice switch up!

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

@cucktard messaged me yesterday but a vinyl reissue of supporting caste is coming out and I’ve already copped a pre-order:
https://propagandhi.bandcamp.com/album/supporting-caste

Also, have a recent interview with them in a Japanese hardcore zine and they talk a lot about having a tonne of new songs and an album in the works!!!

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

any of you gandhi heads cops this?
https://kingsroadmerch.com/propagandhi/product/23008/failed-states-lp-electric-blue

[cucktard]

Nope. I got the original in red

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Nope. I got the original in red

lucky you! I have the remastered one on black but this one was just too good to pass up. Only 9 days left for the supporting caste reissue which is the real winner here, that thing is so hard to get on any vinyl these days…

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Relevant:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cmb5jB3r1sv/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=