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Both are used, pics here: https://www.depop.com/ballintoohard/ will sell to Slap pals via Paypal off Depop, but no Venmo.Venture 5.6 cast plates Ti hangers. Used for a week. Stock white bushings I believe these were frankentruck'd from some P Rod Forged TiIndy 144 Forged Ti Hollows. Used for about 2 weeks. Aftermarket Indy 90a barrel bushings. Still have a lot of life left.