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97A Conical Full
« on: August 18, 2021, 05:26:03 AM »
Thinking of picking up some 97a conical fulls for indoor park skating this winter. Are they worth it, how much of a difference do they make?

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2021, 02:42:09 PM »
I have these and honestly, if you’re talking wooden indoor park this is about the only place they actually felt slow.... they roll everywhere else amazingly well.

Same rule of thumb with smooth indoors to smooth outdoor parks I think, harder will always feel faster

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2021, 03:22:38 PM »
I am a 97a devotee, but yeah, skateparks are where these wheels perform their absolute worst, though I suppose it depends on what type of park we are talking about. On a bunch of wood ramps in the basement of the YMCA, maybe they're great. They're definitely a little slower than a 101 on the glass-smooth concrete of a modern skatepark, but they roll incredibly in my local parking garage, asphalt slappy spots, and around the weather-damaged streets and sidewalks.
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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2021, 04:11:25 PM »
These keep their speed everywhere. Just a hair softer to keep the grimy spots at bay and hard enough to slide proper. Nose, tail, and lip slides are good to go. Best ATV wheels without giving up speed or sacrificing durability.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2021, 04:39:54 PM »
These are some of the best wheels I've ever used. I skate a lot of crusty easy coast spots. They're great. They're good at the concrete park too. Grippy but still slide.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2021, 05:57:42 PM »
Skated these since April in 54 mm.  I think they’re great. They somehow simultaneously grip the ground well riding fast and turning but also slide well on noseslides/tailslides/etc. on ledges.  They also don’t feel bouncy like some soft wheels do when popping and landing.  I mostly skate crustier spots but I could see where they would feel a bit slow from the handful of concrete parks I’ve skated.  If you’re skating all terrain they might be the best overall option. 

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2021, 08:39:55 PM »
I skated a set this summer. Best street wheels by far IMO. The streets around here are rather crusty. Pebbles also are way less of an issue with these than 99A F4s. There aren’t that many smooth parks around here but I skated one concrete park this summer with them and they felt pretty damn slow compared to 99A F4s. In my opinion the 97A and 99A slide pretty much exactly the same so getting these for more grip isn’t gonna help. I’ll be going with 99A for the indoor season myself for more speed. I hate the sluggish feel of a softer wheel on a really smooth surface.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2021, 09:04:31 PM »
95 & 97 are the best! It blows my mind there are so few options.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2021, 06:42:48 AM »
theyre great for weathered skateparks too, been only on these since moving up to the PNW

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2021, 09:57:51 AM »
I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 10:08:19 AM »
I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.

I am mostly thinking about getting them for more grip, since my local indoor is so slippery on 99s

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2021, 10:16:01 AM »
Radials or tablets 97 would be sweet

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2021, 10:30:36 AM »
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I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.
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I am mostly thinking about getting them for more grip, since my local indoor is so slippery on 99s

They will help with that, for sure.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2021, 11:35:55 AM »
I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.

I've definitely noticed that they're wearing quicker, but this doesn't bother me. Only than their speed on super smooth skatepark concrete, my biggest knock against them would be that they seem to get damp pretty quickly, I presume due to the more porous nature of the compound. I left them in a hot car and they were unskateable for ~10 minutes while they adjusted to the outside air temperature, and after I ride through a puddle, they will clearly by "soft" for a while. Neither of these are real problems, though. Not things that occur regularly.

I will agree that they're ideal for the PNW, or any place where you get the freeze/thaw cycle and the concrete is busted up. I imagine this sort of things ends up being a minorly hard sell to the skateboard industry of California, land of glass-smooth pavement stretching as far as the eye can see.
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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2021, 11:43:52 AM »
95/97a performs wonderfully at crusty ass parks; okay/sluggish at smooth parks.

99/101 perform wonderfully super smooth wood/concrete parks; rough on crusty parks.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2021, 06:24:28 PM »
I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks.  I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2021, 06:30:28 PM »
I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks.  I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2021, 06:48:13 PM »
Excited to hear so many people like them since I basically only skate on shitty ground.  I have some waiting to be set up once my collarbone heals.
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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2021, 09:10:39 AM »
I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks.  I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.

I like em.  Obviously softer than the 99s and harder than a 95, but they didn't feel slow - just a little grippier.  Definitely a noticeable difference on rough asphalt too, they take the edge off just enough.  I think I'll stick with these for a while now.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2021, 01:34:06 PM »
I went back to an identical 101a Spitfire wheel and I felt like I was being punished. I can ride the 101s in a skatepark, but just pushing around at the asphalt slappy spot, my teeth and bones were rattled.
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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2021, 12:34:03 PM »
how do they perform compared to 97A slimeballs ? i have had two sets of slimeballs and loved them for asphalt, they are less good on new concrete parks but if you take them big enough they still can take a lot of speed in my opinion

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2021, 04:45:40 PM »
Just came in to say the conical full 97a are way better than the classic shape 97a. The slightly softer duro seems to complement the full square shape nicely. Just skated a pretty rugged spot and they felt way better than the classics I had on before (same size)

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2021, 07:08:39 PM »
I love my 97a formula 4s for street and the local concrete park. I think they are actually more slippery than the 99a spitfires that I skated before, and definately more slippery than the bones 99 afts that I have on another setup. I like how slick they are, but definately skid out quite a bit with them

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2021, 07:27:10 PM »
Excited to hear so many people like them since I basically only skate on shitty ground.  I have some waiting to be set up once my collarbone heals.

That prefab park has the worst ground. It's such a bummer because I love the flatbar, ledges, planters, and pole jam there, but the ground just isn't worth it.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2021, 08:54:19 AM »
Just came in to say the conical full 97a are way better than the classic shape 97a. The slightly softer duro seems to complement the full square shape nicely. Just skated a pretty rugged spot and they felt way better than the classics I had on before (same size)

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I’ve done both and honestly I can’t say that I notice a difference between them. My preference generally is for conical full wheels, though.
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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2021, 09:05:55 AM »
Love my 97a classics.
I really don’t like conical fulls, I just cannot flip em.
I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx: overheard a few comments on wheels at a local, the consensus was, overwhelmingly, that street skating, needed (if not required) 55+ mm wheels.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2021, 09:27:32 AM »
95 & 97 are the best! It blows my mind there are so few options.

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2021, 09:44:43 AM »
Had some bad wipeouts on F4 99A Classics at the indoor skatepark (mix of concrete and wood) on dusty concrete, but also some fresh Skatelite that was super clean. Really messed with my confidence. Switched to F4 97A Classics and it made a huge difference. They are fast and slide but grip just enough to prevent losing too much traction in sketchy situations.

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2021, 09:47:35 AM »

I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:

Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...

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Re: 97A Conical Full
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2021, 09:51:39 AM »
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I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:
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Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...

Yeah that makes sense. I’m one of like 50 people that favors lo trucks, and wants to skate actual streets.