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You are correct Lou. Although, you don't see many vert riders these days on Ventures. You used to.
It would be interesting to really take a look at how much Thunder and Venture have changed since their inception.
Also, why I think Thunder should really celebrate its history and come up with slightly higher, turnier truck again.
Having skating both Thunder and Venture since their inception and many interations..it was purley follks wanting a peice of the pie and marketing 'street' trucks. They both turned more traditionally than than they do now (obvioulsy it's tough to remember a feel from decades ago). Hell Ventures were supposed to be a Tracker alternative (and thunder to indy) that was lighter and turned faster (hence the street marketing).
OG thunder plates were so cool, heavy goth architecture vibe+all the skulls and shit.

Ads were super raw/punk rock too. This was the first pool (pool, not bowl and a shitty one) I skated (we used to hitch hike ot it). He's going over the light on a wall that was just straight ass vert in the deep end with minimal (and steep/quick) tranny.

Thunders were the OG hesh truck.
Damn this is epic! I remember getting Thunders mostly because Marc Johnson and a lot of riders I liked did too. Gino rode them in Trilogy I think? I loved em and learned almost everything on them. Eventually I skated a lot of Ventures and I'm not sure when it was but I accidentally bought Venturr highs at some point and that's when I finally loosened my trucks past 90's tight.
Weren't Venture originally an Indy alternative? I thought I remember reading somewhere, maybe Feedback Ted posted it, that the first versions had the same geometry and they just put the wing shape in the middle to differentiate them in ads. IIRC their first ad was with Gonz? I'm likely wrong, but I had thought Venture and Thunder were marketed as the street alternatives to Indy, Tracker, and transition trucks.
While we're at it anyone remember Orion? I had quite a few sets of those too because I went through a Kalis worship phase.
Out of curiosity has anyone ever compared the olde Thunder or Venture geo with the new ones? That would be really interesting.
gino was on thunders pre trilogy, and maybe a few clips in there too.
he does a pupecki (maybe switch?) at some point, possibly in af1s and on a board with indy’s. i can’t remember, my mind is fuzzy.
the thunder team always made me want to ride them, way more than indy. lots of dudes, mj, ellington, herman, wade, ishod, nate jones, dennis b, lots of folks.
i had one set of orions, and they were kinda sick. weird time in my life, i want to say very early 2000s. i’d try anything (same as now), and got some orions to go on an aesthetics board. the bushings were kinda fucked, from me cranking them straight away like a kook, and the bushings were small. had to get bones bushings to replace em. off track but there was like three or four skateshops in the city at that time, now there’s one, sorta two.
i’d be very interested in how the trucks, both venture and thunder, have changed over time.