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A friend is having an issue with his Indy mids so just putting it out there to see if any other people have had similar problems before I help him tackle the return process.

The specific issue is the inverted nut arrangement in the baseplate is coming loose, not falling out loose, but has started to move side to side in more than one set of trucks he has set up, all of which are still fairly new and in fairly untouched condition.

When the inverted kingpin is fully down in the baseplate (which is usually where he has them done up to) the kingpin can be moved side to side which means the baseplate area round the nut shaft is widening out, in much the same way that when deck bolts are not done up tight enough, it ovals the mounting holes in a truck baseplate.

He bought more than one set when he got them, so when it started happening on the first set, he put on another pair, but it is also happening on the fresh set he just put on.  Then he asked me about it, after which he messaged the shop he bought them from, didn't get a very helpful response and so is a bit stuck right now.

Before I start sending emails with pics and video to the shop in question, the distributor here in AU or even to NHS, has anyone else had this issue before or had similar things happen with Indy mids, or any other truck for that matter?



* Thought I should add a pic (from the brand new ones I had a while back) so you know exactly what is going on


« Last Edit: September 10, 2021, 05:52:47 AM by Mbrimson88 »
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Re: Indy mid baseplate issue (inverted nut coming loose)
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2021, 04:44:48 AM »
Yes, not with Indy mids, but Tensor Maglights with an inverted kingpin. Sleeved bottom bushing washers prevented the slop caused by the stock washer cups. Theyre by MCB Skate and were 5 dollars.
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Re: Indy mid baseplate issue (inverted nut coming loose)
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2021, 04:46:40 AM »
Saw one over here at my local park. Just one truck was loose. Told the kid to bring his board to my office and I'd take it apart and have a look underneath. If it was dodge I'd warrantee it but I haven't seen him since.

edit: the kids known as a bit of a "chancer" so might not of been what you're describing here but as I never got to asses it, I can't really confirm/deny.
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Re: Indy mid baseplate issue (inverted nut coming loose)
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2021, 05:50:13 AM »
Yes, not with Indy mids, but Tensor Maglights with an inverted kingpin. Sleeved bottom bushing washers prevented the slop caused by the stock washer cups. Theyre by MCB Skate and were 5 dollars.

Saw one over here at my local park. Just one truck was loose. Told the kid to bring his board to my office and I'd take it apart and have a look underneath. If it was dodge I'd warrantee it but I haven't seen him since.

edit: the kids known as a bit of a "chancer" so might not of been what you're describing here but as I never got to asses it, I can't really confirm/deny.


Thank you both for the replies so far.


Seeing 100+ views, I also wonder how many people actually have the Indy mids, or just the inverted baseplates, even if they are not having any issues with them, I am curious to know.

Anyone already skated some to death, or they lasted long enough to be out of warranty?



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I've distro'ed a good couple hundred pairs across all sizes since they came out. I've only heard of this one I mentioned earlier.
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I don't think it is very widespread and almost wonder if it is not a product of the type of skateboarding - this guy I know does go pretty hard and goes through stuff fairly quickly - but as it seemed to happen to the almost brand new set as well as the set he had on for a month, I was wondering.

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Iíve got two sets of these on their way to me, Iíll report back if I experience anything similar. I really hope not.

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YUP. Just realized it. One of the kingpins wiggles side to side even when cranked totally down   :-\  I love those baseplates and will be buying another set. It's disappointing but that's what happens when you have Chinese manufacturing.

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that's what happens when you have Chinese manufacturing.
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I havenít had any issues and Iíve been skating them for 6 months. Lots of slappies.  Havenít heard of this from my friends that are skating them either.

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This happens to ace classic baseplates very regularly.

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YUP. Just realized it. One of the kingpins wiggles side to side even when cranked totally down   :-\  I love those baseplates and will be buying another set. It's disappointing but that's what happens when you have Chinese manufacturing.


I think this is a more common thing with any brand of truck with inverted kingpin, but the technology was always fairly limited with other brands, or was more just DIY with people converting them from regular kingpins.

I know a lot of people instantly jump on the wagon of where things are made, but it is the same process as older Indy baseplates which still have USA under them which have widened out over time as well, even with a regular kingpin on one set I had come back as a warranty.


Regardless of where these are made, I do think some - maybe a very small percentage - will have this issue, in the same way as everything else somewhere sooner or later will have a fault or issue.



Thanks for all who have responded so far too.


It is appreciated.


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Re: Indy mid baseplate issue (inverted nut coming loose) Anyone had this happen?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2022, 10:02:51 AM »
Any long-term reports on these? They holding up? Thinking about getting the replacement baseplates.

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Re: Indy mid baseplate issue (inverted nut coming loose) Anyone had this happen?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2022, 04:26:24 PM »
Any long-term reports on these? They holding up? Thinking about getting the replacement baseplates.


I don't have any updates as the people who tried them and didn't like them have gone back to older options / moved on to other options.

I also did see there was a specific warranty option for the inverted kingpin baseplates from the NHS site, but I think that was more related to the kingpin nut coming loose.

On the minimally used set I still have on a board, they are fine, but I think tightening the inverted kingpin down to as far as it would go was the best option.  With stock 90 duro bushings they are still turny loose without a lot of wheelbite, so that worked well enough.

The guys that did destroy them were very hard on their gear, so any normal person skating shouldn't have too many issues with the kingpin down as far as it can go with whatever bushing options you prefer to keep them at that point.

The tops of them still sit about medium height too, so not as much clearance as some other options, but still enough that they don't catch as much on most things.


The set of inverted kingpin baseplates I have are being used with some spare standard hangers and they work fine too.


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