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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2021, 03:41:41 AM »
TMZ got nothing on Slap. This forum is supposed to be about skateboarding, and every other week there is a new more crazy story then the last one. Some with clear evidence, other stories where people's careers ends or reputations are for ever destroyed with out any proof.

I am not commenting on this particular story since I don't know what's true. It just amazes me that there is a crazy story about so and so so often. Shit is fucked!

Iíll admit it does seem like skateboarding is becoming quite drama filled as of the last year. However I think more than enough of these idiots have been getting their just deserts for some valid reasons, which wouldnít happen otherwise.

Posting on social is a definitely a bold move and can carry huge burdens if not true, but itís sort of a catch 22 really. A lot of the time weíve seen this stuff spread over social media and what do you know? Fragments of proof, other witnesses and receipts come from all sorts of places. Not saying that this will happen in this exact situation but I just donít see what else LK is gaining from this.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2021, 03:51:19 AM »
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In regards to reporting it, he clearly says the cops came and nobody pressed charges.Maybe he called the cops, maybe another neighbor did, who knows. But he claims the authorities were contacted and nothing followed up.
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Unfortunately I think that happens more often than we'd like to think, and it's a terrible and complicated thing because families love each other, even when someone is being abusive. It could take years for anything to change or any legal intervention to happen. Still no reason to post it on Instagram. That shit is not tight.
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If this has an inkling of truth to it and the woman didn't want to press charges - publicly calling him out is a way to bring light/attention to the situation. Many people in an abusive relationships won't act and/or do anything until the bad gets worse (e.g. severe physical abuse - worse, death even). And even then, there are those that still won't do anything for fear of making the abuser even more angry.

Going back to KA as an example, how many times do you think he abused that woman who called him out before she finally broke it off with him?
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There's a very real chance that still nothing will change due to the insta post other than making making abuser more angry and putting the victims in a dangerous position. Would have a problem at all with this if the victims had posted/consented to the post.
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It also can stop abuser from any violent actions cause if something will happen everybody will know who did it

If JT is engaging in this type of behavior, the posts help establish a timeline and pattern of behavior. If this is real and the cops have showed up and done nothing, then nothing will probably change until someone gets hurt. By then, at least the posts will prove that itís not an isolated incident.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2021, 05:23:06 AM »
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Racism has entered the chat.
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We are not in a post racial america

I got kooked 8 times for suggesting a black man should recieve the same benefit of the doubt anyone else would, let that marinate.

Iím not necessarily disagreeing with you. I was stoned in bed and thought I was funny. I tried to think of a counter-example, but the closest I got was Ethan Fowler after that Palace ad.
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2021, 05:34:10 AM »
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We are not in a post racial america

I got kooked 8 times for suggesting a black man should recieve the same benefit of the doubt anyone else would, let that marinate.

you got kook'd for suggesting everyone here would be on his side if he was white

when in reality slap has cancelled tons of white skaters for being shitty people


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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2021, 05:38:01 AM »
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Imagine telling someone 5 years ago that LK would be getting JT cancelled.
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Don't agree with airing it out on social. But my first thought was "when did Liz get all responsible like"
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Probably when he first learned he was gonna have a kid. Itís crazy (in an amazing way) what becoming a parent does to some people.

Itís even crazier how it does nothing to others. My first born saved my life!

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2021, 05:40:22 AM »
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Racism has entered the chat.
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We are not in a post racial america

I got kooked 8 times for suggesting a black man should recieve the same benefit of the doubt anyone else would, let that marinate.
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you got kook'd for suggesting everyone here would be on his side if he was white

when in reality slap has cancelled tons of white skaters for being shitty people

Marinate on that for a little while
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2021, 05:44:41 AM »
Does anyone have the video? Is it lizard just talking or actually footage of said incident? Sorry Iím late to the dance here

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2021, 06:30:28 AM »

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2021, 06:30:52 AM »
It was just a post/poll on his story.

Also, for what itís worth, I was at work when I made my post, and went back and edited in ď*alleged*Ē, but my service is shitty there and apparently it didnít take.
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2021, 06:45:27 AM »
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Its too heavy for instagram polls, thats where im at.

Black men specifically have a history of getting railroaded by white people for crimes they've never committed in this country, the last couple of years should have made people more sensitive to this, I guess it really hasnt tho

White slap favorites wouldnt be guilty til proven innocent like this
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Get the fuck out of here with that race-baiting nonsense. People getting crucified left and right on here regardless of skin color. Nobody gives a fuck if JT is black or not. The allegations are heavy and Iím inclined to believe a sober Lizard who has nothing to gain from this and obviously has multiple incidents to go off.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2021, 06:56:01 AM »
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Imagine telling someone 5 years ago that LK would be getting JT cancelled.
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Don't agree with airing it out on social. But my first thought was "when did Liz get all responsible like"
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Probably when he first learned he was gonna have a kid. Itís crazy (in an amazing way) what becoming a parent does to some people.
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Itís even crazier how it does nothing to others. My first born saved my life!

Why I said ďsome.Ē But hey, Iím glad your kid saved your life. Sounds like that kid has someone down for them for life.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2021, 08:02:44 AM »
Of course itís true. Donít know why there is speculation. What does LK have to gain by sharing this? Why would he bother with it unless it was affecting his life in a uncontrollable negative way?
Unless itís revealed that he himself is a wife beating, sexual assaulting, neo nazi,Scientologist like every other pro from the 90ís I will have to believe it. For now.
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2021, 08:17:27 AM »
If it's true I hope JV gets help. I would hope Lizard tried to handle privately and didn't rush to throw this out there. We are all removed from this and don't know what exactly is going down. In todays culture of public shaming/canceling would be way more beneficial if people tried to reach out/help rather than pile on.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2021, 08:23:13 AM »
If it's getting rowdy enough that neighbors are aware(happening in the yard) its not private anymore

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2021, 08:25:19 AM »
If it's true I hope JV gets help. I would hope Lizard tried to handle privately and didn't rush to throw this out there. We are all removed from this and don't know what exactly is going down. In todays culture of public shaming/canceling would be way more beneficial if people tried to reach out/help rather than pile on.
I 100% agree with this sentiment.
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #105 on: September 14, 2021, 08:28:30 AM »
Of course itís true. Donít know why there is speculation. What does LK have to gain by sharing this? Why would he bother with it unless it was affecting his life in a uncontrollable negative way?
Unless itís revealed that he himself is a wife beating, sexual assaulting, neo nazi,Scientologist like every other pro from the 90ís I will have to believe it. For now.

right??? with all the kooky/bummy shit lizard has sure to have done in his tenure in the industry I'm sure he knows when a dude is being more than a shitty loud neighbor that keeps your kids up on friday nights... the with the amount of OG's getting dogged and kook'd these days I think There's an apatite for getting these lames out of the spot light/known to the rest of the community how shitty of people they really are (especially when young kids grow up idolizing these guys Ex. Oyola & Fowler... fuck look at markovich dude is skating better than ever and is a full blown kook) ... I think for the longest time in the industry older pros/dudes with some lame ass views were able to stay relevant and connected to/on the top brands because no consumers actually knew what kooks these dudes were, whjat they were about & stayed supporting them.... Look at DP & 1010 recently lol... 
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2021, 08:35:46 AM »
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Its too heavy for instagram polls, thats where im at.

Black men specifically have a history of getting railroaded by white people for crimes they've never committed in this country, the last couple of years should have made people more sensitive to this, I guess it really hasnt tho

White slap favorites wouldnt be guilty til proven innocent like this
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I hear this 100%, but still think you need to ask yourself: what does he have to gain. Didnt mention this in my earlier post, but I certainly do think racial bias could be lurking beneath Lizard's outrage at the alleged violence. I don't think that Lizard is so racist that he'd fabricate a story like this out of thin air, but it's not a real big stretch to think that he may have handled it a bit differently if his neighbor looked more like him.

If Lizard cared about JT's family, he wouldn't have aired their dirty laundry publicly. I think that's incredibly fucked up. He could have reported it and respected their privacy.
Some unbelievably corny takes in this thread. Lizards racist now? Give me a fucking break.
This is why people donít take real race issues seriously.  Because you mouthbreathers have to constantly water it down with dumbass shit like this.
If I knew my neighbor was beating his wife and was trying to hurt me, while being respected around the community, Iíd gladly call that shit out too. It sounds like his wife needs help, not ignoring because we wouldnít want to ďair anybodyís dirty laundryĒ. Beating women is way more than dirty laundry.
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2021, 08:40:44 AM »
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Of course itís true. Donít know why there is speculation. What does LK have to gain by sharing this? Why would he bother with it unless it was affecting his life in a uncontrollable negative way?
Unless itís revealed that he himself is a wife beating, sexual assaulting, neo nazi,Scientologist like every other pro from the 90ís I will have to believe it. For now.
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right??? with all the kooky/bummy shit lizard has sure to have done in his tenure in the industry I'm sure he knows when a dude is being more than a shitty loud neighbor that keeps your kids up on friday nights... the with the amount of OG's getting dogged and kook'd these days I think There's an apatite for getting these lames out of the spot light/known to the rest of the community how shitty of people they really are (especially when young kids grow up idolizing these guys Ex. Oyola & Fowler... fuck look at markovich dude is skating better than ever and is a full blown kook) ... I think for the longest time in the industry older pros/dudes with some lame ass views were able to stay relevant and connected to/on the top brands because no consumers actually knew what kooks these dudes were, whjat they were about & stayed supporting them.... Look at DP & 1010 recently lol...


 Yes, exactly in the 90ís there was no social media and cameras in everyoneís pockets so a lot stuff never saw the light of day. But now these options are here and make it easy so people are getting called out, as they mostly should be. 
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2021, 08:51:03 AM »
As a first responder, I see domestic violence against women more than I want too.   It's almost as common as drug abuse these days.   Unfortunately the majority of victims stay with the abuser because he's a "good guy" 90 percent of the time.  Not saying JT is guilty,  but if he is,  fuck him !!

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2021, 10:03:39 AM »
It was just a post/poll on his story.

Also, for what itís worth, I was at work when I made my post, and went back and edited in ď*alleged*Ē, but my service is shitty there and apparently it didnít take.

"Oh my god guys he is such an *alleged*Ē garbage person"
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2021, 10:05:44 AM »
As a first responder, I see domestic violence against women more than I want too.   It's almost as common as drug abuse these days.   Unfortunately the majority of victims stay with the abuser because he's a "good guy" 90 percent of the time.  Not saying JT is guilty,  but if he is,  fuck him !!

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
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As a first responder, I see domestic violence against women more than I want too.   It's almost as common as drug abuse these days.   Unfortunately the majority of victims stay with the abuser because he's a "good guy" 90 percent of the time.  Not saying JT is guilty,  but if he is,  fuck him !!
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Cop on the bloards???

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #112 on: September 14, 2021, 10:17:02 AM »
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Racism has entered the chat.
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We are not in a post racial america

I got kooked 8 times for suggesting a black man should recieve the same benefit of the doubt anyone else would, let that marinate.
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you got kook'd for suggesting everyone here would be on his side if he was white

when in reality slap has cancelled tons of white skaters for being shitty people
no dude he is a victim because people lowered his slap rep

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #113 on: September 14, 2021, 10:18:14 AM »
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As a first responder, I see domestic violence against women more than I want too.   It's almost as common as drug abuse these days.   Unfortunately the majority of victims stay with the abuser because he's a "good guy" 90 percent of the time.  Not saying JT is guilty,  but if he is,  fuck him !!
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Cop on the bloards???
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 Lol...Medic.... I only help people!!!

No worries, i thought the Canadian bacon handle was an impulse to tell on yourself haha
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2021, 10:19:54 AM »
Obviously jovantae unless lizard king shows up with the ring of the eye of the Mormon

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2021, 10:40:24 AM »
Isnít the recidivism rate for domestic violence extremely high especially since most of it doesnít result in any charges let alone mandated counseling or jail time?

Itís not as simple as dude hits wife, gets a therapist, hella nice guy now. It has nothing to do with JT being a former pro, his race, or socioeconomic status: domestic violence pervades across classes and racial lines but has a distinct bias in reporting. Sadly LKís story is about the best help his wife will get and maybe someone will actually reach out to her directly.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2021, 11:04:04 AM »
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Didn't Rudy fight jovantae on an early girl tour because he stole from him?

Also I've probably never heard a story about a 90s pro that makes them sound like a half decent person
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Karl Watson. Your argument is invalid.

That being said, fuck Tae if this is true. Makes me sad, he was a favorite of mine.
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There are many stories of Karl being an annoying dick teenager who blossomed into a humble incredible man.
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To be fair - most teenagers are dicks at some point, that and the man is probably mid 40s or so, thatís a looong time ago.

Also - Iíve always had a soft spot for Lizard for some reason, I think heís natural love of skating shines through in his parts / interviews etc. Heís just a skate rat and I love that.

hes only 36 homey lol
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2021, 11:06:31 AM »
Isnít the recidivism rate for domestic violence extremely high especially since most of it doesnít result in any charges let alone mandated counseling or jail time?

Itís not as simple as dude hits wife, gets a therapist, hella nice guy now. It has nothing to do with JT being a former pro, his race, or socioeconomic status: domestic violence pervades across classes and racial lines but has a distinct bias in reporting. Sadly LKís story is about the best help his wife will get and maybe someone will actually reach out to her directly.

Facts. At the end of the day, unless the victim seeks help willingly, nothing will come of interventions. This is unfortunately how some women meet their deaths at the hands of their significant other. Too blinded by love, helplessness, or brainwashed into the routine of abuse.

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Didn't Rudy fight jovantae on an early girl tour because he stole from him?

Also I've probably never heard a story about a 90s pro that makes them sound like a half decent person
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Karl Watson. Your argument is invalid.

That being said, fuck Tae if this is true. Makes me sad, he was a favorite of mine.
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There are many stories of Karl being an annoying dick teenager who blossomed into a humble incredible man.
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To be fair - most teenagers are dicks at some point, that and the man is probably mid 40s or so, thatís a looong time ago.

Also - Iíve always had a soft spot for Lizard for some reason, I think heís natural love of skating shines through in his parts / interviews etc. Heís just a skate rat and I love that.
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hes only 36 homey lol

They were talking about Karl being in his mid 40s.

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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2021, 11:09:32 AM »
doh!
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Re: Lizard King vs Jovantae Turner
« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2021, 11:16:39 AM »
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As a first responder, I see domestic violence against women more than I want too.   It's almost as common as drug abuse these days.   Unfortunately the majority of victims stay with the abuser because he's a "good guy" 90 percent of the time.  Not saying JT is guilty,  but if he is,  fuck him !!
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Cop on the bloards???
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No worries, i thought the Canadian bacon handle was an impulse to tell on yourself haha
Lol I actually had the same thought about my username as soon as you asked !!!!