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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2021, 07:05:39 AM »
I only had a chance to watch the Chima part so far (getting old and losing time sucks) but I can vividly remember a really fucking wicked switch tre and also not understanding how the ender worked.

It's hard to talk stand-outs with a packed part like that, but the Switch 360 Flip also struck me as special. Usually people seem to catch late when throwing them down stuff, but this was popped and caught with so much power.

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« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2021, 07:06:59 AM »
Chima is in his own league. Incredible part.Cant see anyone topping that this year.
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2021, 07:14:38 AM »
Nick Michel is the chosen one

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2021, 07:19:45 AM »
So rad to listen to SDRE in a part - especially when they didn't choose the two most obvious songs (In Circles, Seven). Still want to see someone skating to Grendel or Tearing in My Heart though.
Tearing in my heart was used in a tws video montage. Forget which video

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« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2021, 07:24:48 AM »
I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

Maybe my attention span has shrunk too at this point but this should have been two or a few videos instead. Breana, Ronnie, Dustin and Chima parts together as a pro vid, with the obligatory am montage of course; then a separate video or videos focusing on the skaters/scenes around the globe.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2021, 07:43:28 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CcloyO2mE&ab_channel=Vans

Looks like a full length that will premiere later today.
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Description has Chima with last part(!)

Is the the part showing the ollie that got SLAP in a tizzy a few weeks ago?

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In the latest Thrasher they say that the new Chima part will have the footage for a couple of his photos from his recent Thrasher interview. So it must be in there.

Can't wait to see it. Chima's been so consistent for so long, I feel like this might be his defining part.
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a defining part at 32? im not sayin he has to pack it up but i definitely believe he has already hit his peak. Dont get me wrong I loved the footage he put out back in 2008 in that Killself video and Let's Live but everything after that has just been kinda meh. I couldnt tell you one trick from the last Vans video he had last part in. Maybe this part will do it for me? Maybe he will get SOTY? doubtful. also arent chima and his brother slightly racist?
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Concerning the Chima's brother is racist thing I think it's more Americans not understanding just because USA and Aus both speak English doesn't mean it's the same English and words mean different things.
I think the story is some Americans were being dickheads and Chima's brother called them out on it and one said something like why don't you have my back were both black to which Chima's brother replied "I'm not black, im Australian!"
For people born before this millenium in Aus black generally means African American. I don't know Chima or his brother but my friends in high school would get really bothered by people calling them black they said it was like just calling any Asian person Chinese
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Nah you're trippin. Indigenous people refer to themselves as black. As do the majority of Somalians and Sudanese people I know regardless of whether they were born here or moved here. Generally people prefer to be noted for their nationality rather than skin colour of course. I'm mixed, volunteer in community services, and I hear it all the time.
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Hmm weird these friends were mostly Aboriginal and Sudanese. Guess I'm from some strange bubble.
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Not saying you're wrong btw. We've both just had different experiences.

chima and his brother slightly racist?
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I think they are slightly colored.

why don't you have my back were both black to which Chima's brother replied "I'm not black, im Australian!"
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if he don't define about the color of the skin - it doesn't make him a racist.

Racism is a global problem - but the issue in this case is that if you grow up in the US
as an young male with darker skin color then the majority of the people you face different kind of Racism then
people growing up in Australia, France, Germany etc. etc.  for sure you face racism there too - but different.
So you have a different point of view.

His point of view is - he is Australian first - and he did not care that much about the color of your skin.
He care more about your behavior in interaction with him or other people.

Because everyone in Australia is an immigrant  (ok Koori / Anangu arrived already 50.000years ago -but this is 1% of the people) - and half of the nations arrived the last 60years.


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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2021, 07:53:38 AM »
Surprisingly classic, reminding me of those Volcom edits
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2021, 07:55:33 AM »
what an emo ass soundtrack. Glad to see everyone liked it.

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« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2021, 07:59:41 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CcloyO2mE&ab_channel=Vans

Looks like a full length that will premiere later today.
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Description has Chima with last part(!)

Is the the part showing the ollie that got SLAP in a tizzy a few weeks ago?

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In the latest Thrasher they say that the new Chima part will have the footage for a couple of his photos from his recent Thrasher interview. So it must be in there.

Can't wait to see it. Chima's been so consistent for so long, I feel like this might be his defining part.
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a defining part at 32? im not sayin he has to pack it up but i definitely believe he has already hit his peak. Dont get me wrong I loved the footage he put out back in 2008 in that Killself video and Let's Live but everything after that has just been kinda meh. I couldnt tell you one trick from the last Vans video he had last part in. Maybe this part will do it for me? Maybe he will get SOTY? doubtful. also arent chima and his brother slightly racist?
Bumping just to make sure this awful take isn't forgotten

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #99 on: October 14, 2021, 08:01:20 AM »
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So rad to listen to SDRE in a part - especially when they didn't choose the two most obvious songs (In Circles, Seven). Still want to see someone skating to Grendel or Tearing in My Heart though.
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Tearing in my heart was used in a tws video montage. Forget which video

I didn't know that, found now. Transworld I.E, "16mm Part".

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2021, 08:03:53 AM »
was really digging the soundtrack right up until Chima's part. dont know wtf they were thinking with those 2. not sure who they are appealing to with that... way to absolutely kill the vibe of the video and the best footage. jesus. absolutely amazing footage ruined with that song. hopefully someone does a remix of that part. the only worse song i can think of on an ending part is lennie kirk on timecode
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« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2021, 08:03:58 AM »
I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.
Interesting analysis. I partially agree, but I don't think it has to be framed as a negative. From my vantage point it appears that Gen Z's consumer preferences are different than previous generations.

These shifting consumer tastes are largely driving this phenomenon of moving away from "skill" and adherence to group norms with a much larger emphasis on friendship, creative expression, and diversity than in the past.

Skateboarding is a really cool blend of art and sport, and that tension of style (how you do things) vs. skill (what you can do) has always existed. Think Hosoi vs. Hawk in the 80s. 

The formula is imprecise, but it seems that to succeed in the skate industry brands have to walk that line with who they pick and choose to represent their products and how they market themselves.

Gen Z seems to be the first generation to be true digital natives in the sense that (with the exception of the oldest of their cohort) they cannot remember a time in which social media didn't exist. They tend to be a lot more accepting of people's differences, which I think can be attributed to growing up in hyper-fractured online spaces with hundreds, if not thousands, of cultural niches to mix and match at will.

Millennials accelerated this phenomenon, but the world was still physical enough that a more standard set of tastes and values emerged.   

The defining feature of Gen Z seems to be embracing "corny" stuff like Y2K fashion, emo and post-grunge music, and looking at skateboarding as a way to express themselves and meet people. Not taking it as seriously. Having fun with it and caring a lot less about what is "cool." Being anti-cool is cool now or something haha.

I think these changes can lead to a lot of positives! I came up on the tail end of a much harsher, judgmental, white-and-male-dominated subculture. A lot of the hand-wringing I see from older skaters I think is fundamentally rooted in existential anxiety as they are slowly being pushed aside for a new paradigm.

The kids at skateparks nowadays seem a lot nicer, friendlier, and hyped on most things as opposed to when I was their age. They are the most diverse generation in US history, and are more aware of social issues and current events than their predecessors. 

I'm sure the bean counters at VF Corp ran the numbers and realized that in addition to being a "good look," moving away from the industry formula of taking skinny, primarily caucasian skaters and convincing them the only way to succeed in skateboarding was to move to California and jump down as many stairs/grind the biggest rails possible doesn't translate to dollars as much as it used to.

The teens and twenty-somethings of today are more diverse, and they want to see themselves represented in their subcultures. While reactionaries in the community rant and rave about the latest shoe company ad featuring a woman doing a "sub-par" trick, tens of thousands of girls see that ad on Instagram and get inspired to go out and push their own boundaries.

This only gets more women and girls in skateboarding and elevates the talent pool as a whole. It's crazy to see footage from women's contests even a decade ago vs. now. The skill differential is insane, and women are only continuing to get better and catch up to their male counterparts. This is a HUGE positive.

Let's see the bigger picture here. It's a balance, and there will always be a welcome spot in skateboarding for people who rip and push the discipline to new heights.

I'm very stoked overall on the new, more inclusive and welcoming direction skateboarding has been going for some time now. Sorry for the rant lol.

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2021, 08:08:47 AM »
His eyes say it all.


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« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2021, 08:09:41 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CcloyO2mE&ab_channel=Vans

Looks like a full length that will premiere later today.
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Description has Chima with last part(!)

Is the the part showing the ollie that got SLAP in a tizzy a few weeks ago?

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In the latest Thrasher they say that the new Chima part will have the footage for a couple of his photos from his recent Thrasher interview. So it must be in there.

Can't wait to see it. Chima's been so consistent for so long, I feel like this might be his defining part.
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a defining part at 32? im not sayin he has to pack it up but i definitely believe he has already hit his peak. Dont get me wrong I loved the footage he put out back in 2008 in that Killself video and Let's Live but everything after that has just been kinda meh. I couldnt tell you one trick from the last Vans video he had last part in. Maybe this part will do it for me? Maybe he will get SOTY? doubtful. also arent chima and his brother slightly racist?
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Bumping just to make sure this awful take isn't forgotten

Bumping as well to drop the reminder that Reynolds dropped his Stay Gold part when he was 32. Never say never.

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« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2021, 08:20:22 AM »
nick michel is a god. pedro deserves better than deathwish. chima fucking dropped. whole part was heavy no filler whatsoever. that alley oop back 3 over the rail was jaw dropping
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« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2021, 08:27:27 AM »
His eyes say it all.



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« Reply #106 on: October 14, 2021, 08:29:24 AM »
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I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.
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Interesting analysis. I partially agree, but I don't think it has to be framed as a negative. From my vantage point it appears that Gen Z's consumer preferences are different than previous generations.

These shifting consumer tastes are largely driving this phenomenon of moving away from "skill" and adherence to group norms with a much larger emphasis on friendship, creative expression, and diversity than in the past.

Skateboarding is a really cool blend of art and sport, and that tension of style (how you do things) vs. skill (what you can do) has always existed. Think Hosoi vs. Hawk in the 80s. 

The formula is imprecise, but it seems that to succeed in the skate industry brands have to walk that line with who they pick and choose to represent their products and how they market themselves.

Gen Z seems to be the first generation to be true digital natives in the sense that (with the exception of the oldest of their cohort) they cannot remember a time in which social media didn't exist. They tend to be a lot more accepting of people's differences, which I think can be attributed to growing up in hyper-fractured online spaces with hundreds, if not thousands, of cultural niches to mix and match at will.

Millennials accelerated this phenomenon, but the world was still physical enough that a more standard set of tastes and values emerged.   

The defining feature of Gen Z seems to be embracing "corny" stuff like Y2K fashion, emo and post-grunge music, and looking at skateboarding as a way to express themselves and meet people. Not taking it as seriously. Having fun with it and caring a lot less about what is "cool." Being anti-cool is cool now or something haha.

I think these changes can lead to a lot of positives! I came up on the tail end of a much harsher, judgmental, white-and-male-dominated subculture. A lot of the hand-wringing I see from older skaters I think is fundamentally rooted in existential anxiety as they are slowly being pushed aside for a new paradigm.

The kids at skateparks nowadays seem a lot nicer, friendlier, and hyped on most things as opposed to when I was their age. They are the most diverse generation in US history, and are more aware of social issues and current events than their predecessors. 

I'm sure the bean counters at VF Corp ran the numbers and realized that in addition to being a "good look," moving away from the industry formula of taking skinny, primarily caucasian skaters and convincing them the only way to succeed in skateboarding was to move to California and jump down as many stairs/grind the biggest rails possible doesn't translate to dollars as much as it used to.

The teens and twenty-somethings of today are more diverse, and they want to see themselves represented in their subcultures. While reactionaries in the community rant and rave about the latest shoe company ad featuring a woman doing a "sub-par" trick, tens of thousands of girls see that ad on Instagram and get inspired to go out and push their own boundaries.

This only gets more women and girls in skateboarding and elevates the talent pool as a whole. It's crazy to see footage from women's contests even a decade ago vs. now. The skill differential is insane, and women are only continuing to get better and catch up to their male counterparts. This is a HUGE positive.

Let's see the bigger picture here. It's a balance, and there will always be a welcome spot in skateboarding for people who rip and push the discipline to new heights.

I'm very stoked overall on the new, more inclusive and welcoming direction skateboarding has been going for some time now. Sorry for the rant lol.

Personally I don't care that the tricks women do are "sub par" but it's a bit unappealing when the trick is at an already blown out spot/abd or just a boring spot. If all you can do is a Manny then fuck it find a weird Manny pad and film from an interesting perspective. Just put in effort to make something interesting in another way. This goes for everyone tho Bobby puleo might not have the biggest bag of tricks but his parts are good because he Ollied some random thing nobody has seen before not just some gap we've seen a hundred times already.

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« Reply #107 on: October 14, 2021, 08:45:33 AM »
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I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.
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Interesting analysis. I partially agree, but I don't think it has to be framed as a negative. From my vantage point it appears that Gen Z's consumer preferences are different than previous generations.

These shifting consumer tastes are largely driving this phenomenon of moving away from "skill" and adherence to group norms with a much larger emphasis on friendship, creative expression, and diversity than in the past.

Skateboarding is a really cool blend of art and sport, and that tension of style (how you do things) vs. skill (what you can do) has always existed. Think Hosoi vs. Hawk in the 80s. 

The formula is imprecise, but it seems that to succeed in the skate industry brands have to walk that line with who they pick and choose to represent their products and how they market themselves.

Gen Z seems to be the first generation to be true digital natives in the sense that (with the exception of the oldest of their cohort) they cannot remember a time in which social media didn't exist. They tend to be a lot more accepting of people's differences, which I think can be attributed to growing up in hyper-fractured online spaces with hundreds, if not thousands, of cultural niches to mix and match at will.

Millennials accelerated this phenomenon, but the world was still physical enough that a more standard set of tastes and values emerged.   

The defining feature of Gen Z seems to be embracing "corny" stuff like Y2K fashion, emo and post-grunge music, and looking at skateboarding as a way to express themselves and meet people. Not taking it as seriously. Having fun with it and caring a lot less about what is "cool." Being anti-cool is cool now or something haha.

I think these changes can lead to a lot of positives! I came up on the tail end of a much harsher, judgmental, white-and-male-dominated subculture. A lot of the hand-wringing I see from older skaters I think is fundamentally rooted in existential anxiety as they are slowly being pushed aside for a new paradigm.

The kids at skateparks nowadays seem a lot nicer, friendlier, and hyped on most things as opposed to when I was their age. They are the most diverse generation in US history, and are more aware of social issues and current events than their predecessors. 

I'm sure the bean counters at VF Corp ran the numbers and realized that in addition to being a "good look," moving away from the industry formula of taking skinny, primarily caucasian skaters and convincing them the only way to succeed in skateboarding was to move to California and jump down as many stairs/grind the biggest rails possible doesn't translate to dollars as much as it used to.

The teens and twenty-somethings of today are more diverse, and they want to see themselves represented in their subcultures. While reactionaries in the community rant and rave about the latest shoe company ad featuring a woman doing a "sub-par" trick, tens of thousands of girls see that ad on Instagram and get inspired to go out and push their own boundaries.

This only gets more women and girls in skateboarding and elevates the talent pool as a whole. It's crazy to see footage from women's contests even a decade ago vs. now. The skill differential is insane, and women are only continuing to get better and catch up to their male counterparts. This is a HUGE positive.

Let's see the bigger picture here. It's a balance, and there will always be a welcome spot in skateboarding for people who rip and push the discipline to new heights.

I'm very stoked overall on the new, more inclusive and welcoming direction skateboarding has been going for some time now. Sorry for the rant lol.
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Personally I don't care that the tricks women do are "sub par" but it's a bit unappealing when the trick is at an already blown out spot/abd or just a boring spot.


Weird how this is brought up for women and not Ronnie Sandoval  ???

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« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2021, 08:55:41 AM »
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I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.
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Interesting analysis. I partially agree, but I don't think it has to be framed as a negative. From my vantage point it appears that Gen Z's consumer preferences are different than previous generations.

These shifting consumer tastes are largely driving this phenomenon of moving away from "skill" and adherence to group norms with a much larger emphasis on friendship, creative expression, and diversity than in the past.

Skateboarding is a really cool blend of art and sport, and that tension of style (how you do things) vs. skill (what you can do) has always existed. Think Hosoi vs. Hawk in the 80s. 

The formula is imprecise, but it seems that to succeed in the skate industry brands have to walk that line with who they pick and choose to represent their products and how they market themselves.

Gen Z seems to be the first generation to be true digital natives in the sense that (with the exception of the oldest of their cohort) they cannot remember a time in which social media didn't exist. They tend to be a lot more accepting of people's differences, which I think can be attributed to growing up in hyper-fractured online spaces with hundreds, if not thousands, of cultural niches to mix and match at will.

Millennials accelerated this phenomenon, but the world was still physical enough that a more standard set of tastes and values emerged.   

The defining feature of Gen Z seems to be embracing "corny" stuff like Y2K fashion, emo and post-grunge music, and looking at skateboarding as a way to express themselves and meet people. Not taking it as seriously. Having fun with it and caring a lot less about what is "cool." Being anti-cool is cool now or something haha.

I think these changes can lead to a lot of positives! I came up on the tail end of a much harsher, judgmental, white-and-male-dominated subculture. A lot of the hand-wringing I see from older skaters I think is fundamentally rooted in existential anxiety as they are slowly being pushed aside for a new paradigm.

The kids at skateparks nowadays seem a lot nicer, friendlier, and hyped on most things as opposed to when I was their age. They are the most diverse generation in US history, and are more aware of social issues and current events than their predecessors. 

I'm sure the bean counters at VF Corp ran the numbers and realized that in addition to being a "good look," moving away from the industry formula of taking skinny, primarily caucasian skaters and convincing them the only way to succeed in skateboarding was to move to California and jump down as many stairs/grind the biggest rails possible doesn't translate to dollars as much as it used to.

The teens and twenty-somethings of today are more diverse, and they want to see themselves represented in their subcultures. While reactionaries in the community rant and rave about the latest shoe company ad featuring a woman doing a "sub-par" trick, tens of thousands of girls see that ad on Instagram and get inspired to go out and push their own boundaries.

This only gets more women and girls in skateboarding and elevates the talent pool as a whole. It's crazy to see footage from women's contests even a decade ago vs. now. The skill differential is insane, and women are only continuing to get better and catch up to their male counterparts. This is a HUGE positive.

Let's see the bigger picture here. It's a balance, and there will always be a welcome spot in skateboarding for people who rip and push the discipline to new heights.

I'm very stoked overall on the new, more inclusive and welcoming direction skateboarding has been going for some time now. Sorry for the rant lol.
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Personally I don't care that the tricks women do are "sub par" but it's a bit unappealing when the trick is at an already blown out spot/abd or just a boring spot.
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Weird how this is brought up for women and not Ronnie Sandoval  ???

Weird how you cut out the sentence "this goes for everyone tho"

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2021, 08:58:30 AM »
I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

Maybe my attention span has shrunk too at this point but this should have been two or a few videos instead. Breana, Ronnie, Dustin and Chima parts together as a pro vid, with the obligatory am montage of course; then a separate video or videos focusing on the skaters/scenes around the globe.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.


I noted that, filming and editing were very different in every part, but as you can see on credits, everything was filmed / edited by different people so make sense. If not its hard to be on all those places as unique filmer in COVID times.



For me I liked the whole thing, in general. Rewatch material. But in some cases I though they cut the landing too quick for some reason, you can see on ronnie sandoval drop, breeana trick of the cover, and some more (maybe Im confused just saw it once)

Also the music in some cases was too long for the part, the china part and don't remember the other, but felt like I was watching Thrill of it all when they used the intro of the song because the part was really short.

Also I dont like this trend(?) where they film the skater long lens pushing to the ledge, bank, rail whatever. the filmer liked that pushing to use it but is not a make, then they put together that approaching with the make, but the make is filmed from a slightly different angle, (not a b roll form a way different angle), is very similar but you just can see like a little cut, jump that is really disturbing.  I don't know if I'm explaining wel, but I dont like that.


 


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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2021, 09:00:31 AM »
So much heavy stuff in there. Nick Michel's part was incredible. his nosegrind at 1:40 is amongst the most proper i have ever seen.

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2021, 09:03:13 AM »
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I must be out of step but I just thought it was ok. Filming was very uneven, espically the first half. I can't stand emo music so you can guess my opinion of the soundtrack.

In this format it felt a bit cobbled together, also a bit bloated. At times I felt like I was stuck toughing out yet another kid nosesliding a knee high ledge in order to get to the good stuff.

 I feel like all Vans full lengths disappoint me a bit though. With the ridiculous amount of talent that team has they oughtta be putting out the best vid of the year every time they do a full length. Hell they oughtta be able to put one out every year too, considering the team.
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Interesting analysis. I partially agree, but I don't think it has to be framed as a negative. From my vantage point it appears that Gen Z's consumer preferences are different than previous generations.

These shifting consumer tastes are largely driving this phenomenon of moving away from "skill" and adherence to group norms with a much larger emphasis on friendship, creative expression, and diversity than in the past.

Skateboarding is a really cool blend of art and sport, and that tension of style (how you do things) vs. skill (what you can do) has always existed. Think Hosoi vs. Hawk in the 80s. 

The formula is imprecise, but it seems that to succeed in the skate industry brands have to walk that line with who they pick and choose to represent their products and how they market themselves.

Gen Z seems to be the first generation to be true digital natives in the sense that (with the exception of the oldest of their cohort) they cannot remember a time in which social media didn't exist. They tend to be a lot more accepting of people's differences, which I think can be attributed to growing up in hyper-fractured online spaces with hundreds, if not thousands, of cultural niches to mix and match at will.

Millennials accelerated this phenomenon, but the world was still physical enough that a more standard set of tastes and values emerged.   

The defining feature of Gen Z seems to be embracing "corny" stuff like Y2K fashion, emo and post-grunge music, and looking at skateboarding as a way to express themselves and meet people. Not taking it as seriously. Having fun with it and caring a lot less about what is "cool." Being anti-cool is cool now or something haha.

I think these changes can lead to a lot of positives! I came up on the tail end of a much harsher, judgmental, white-and-male-dominated subculture. A lot of the hand-wringing I see from older skaters I think is fundamentally rooted in existential anxiety as they are slowly being pushed aside for a new paradigm.

The kids at skateparks nowadays seem a lot nicer, friendlier, and hyped on most things as opposed to when I was their age. They are the most diverse generation in US history, and are more aware of social issues and current events than their predecessors. 

I'm sure the bean counters at VF Corp ran the numbers and realized that in addition to being a "good look," moving away from the industry formula of taking skinny, primarily caucasian skaters and convincing them the only way to succeed in skateboarding was to move to California and jump down as many stairs/grind the biggest rails possible doesn't translate to dollars as much as it used to.

The teens and twenty-somethings of today are more diverse, and they want to see themselves represented in their subcultures. While reactionaries in the community rant and rave about the latest shoe company ad featuring a woman doing a "sub-par" trick, tens of thousands of girls see that ad on Instagram and get inspired to go out and push their own boundaries.

This only gets more women and girls in skateboarding and elevates the talent pool as a whole. It's crazy to see footage from women's contests even a decade ago vs. now. The skill differential is insane, and women are only continuing to get better and catch up to their male counterparts. This is a HUGE positive.

Let's see the bigger picture here. It's a balance, and there will always be a welcome spot in skateboarding for people who rip and push the discipline to new heights.

I'm very stoked overall on the new, more inclusive and welcoming direction skateboarding has been going for some time now. Sorry for the rant lol.
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Personally I don't care that the tricks women do are "sub par" but it's a bit unappealing when the trick is at an already blown out spot/abd or just a boring spot.
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Weird how this is brought up for women and not Ronnie Sandoval  ???
well ronnie sandoval is a more transition dominant skater. imagine if reynolds started skating vert for whatever reason. you wouldnt expect him to be an A tier vert skater would you?
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2021, 09:34:42 AM »

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2021, 09:45:25 AM »
I'm so very happy I waited until I could watch this on my big living room tv with proper sound instead of just slipping on my headphones and watching it from my computer or worse phone.

Everything clicked for me and this might possibly be my favorite vans video and washed the gross taste of Alright ok off of my tongue.

Chima lands and does everything with absolute razor precision and subtle power. The second song's all too familiar opening almost had me disappointed at first (being a huge oldies fan), but it actually ended up going with the scope of that section with the surround sound system I've got. It takes a powerful song to go with that powerful section.
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #114 on: October 14, 2021, 09:47:51 AM »
great video with high rewatch value, particularly nick, dustin, notis, and of course chima. between his part in spinning away and this one, in my mind he's up there alongside geoff/arto/heath in that he does truly insane yet tasteful shit, elegantly, to songs that level up the emotion and drama. i think that's why watching him skate triggers an instant feeling of nostalgia for me, just feels like a throwback to some of the best, most classic parts from my youth.

and kinda off topic, but seeing notis skate made me remember how much i love this greek scene video from 2015. good watch if you like hyperlocal vids and want to see how he's progressed:
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #115 on: October 14, 2021, 09:56:23 AM »
Song About An Angel is my favorite SDRE song of all time. Stoked (and surprised) that it was finally used in a skate part.

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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #116 on: October 14, 2021, 09:57:44 AM »
This has gotta be my favorite Chima Part. It reminds me of when I saw one of his very first video parts, when he was kickflipping and ollying huge shit.
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #117 on: October 14, 2021, 10:01:26 AM »
Every Portland skaters jaws are still on the floor after seeing that Pedro ride on grind. Shit is madness. Felt like that dad in the Baker has a Deathwish video, been waiting a loooong time to see this
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #118 on: October 14, 2021, 10:07:30 AM »

looks like an ollie on the out ledge thing
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Re: Vans Nice To See You
« Reply #119 on: October 14, 2021, 10:11:30 AM »
Chima's part should have been it's own video
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