New royal trucks

[yourbreakfsat]

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I know they make a downlow version but they didn’t send me those. These were much tougher to pop out vs a standard cast baseplate.

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Looks almost like a Venture baseplate.

Really rough casting on these, does it say what alloy they use?

Yeah honestly that metal finish reminds me of trucks you'd find on a cheap complete.

[FatGuy92]

Damn kind of tempted to try these out. If anyone who has their can comment on how much it pushes out the WB it would be much appreciated

[Xen]

The whole truck has venture vibes for sure.

As for casting, I'm seen some pretty rough ass Thunder teams in my time and FWIW they look just like Theeves, being more pitted...but honestly, out of the gate casting, as long as the truck is durable, doesn't mean anything to me anymore since I'm going to trash them in the first 5min of use.

My set shipped out this morning (go Skate Warehouse working on Sundays, get them dollas boys!).

35th ave. dude, do you have any shots of the IKP plate bottom? Assuming it's Film/Krux style and not some elaborate Indy plate method.

Theeve pic
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1955/1231/products/TE-9347798002580_1400x.jpg?v=1575497222

[JugeL]

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I know they make a downlow version but they didn’t send me those. These were much tougher to pop out vs a standard cast baseplate.

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Looks almost like a Venture baseplate.

Really rough casting on these, does it say what alloy they use?

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Yeah honestly that metal finish reminds me of trucks you'd find on a cheap complete.

Reminds me of the Mike Mo setup video where his baseplate is cracked

Kept me away from Royals since then

[Beeker]

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I know they make a downlow version but they didn’t send me those. These were much tougher to pop out vs a standard cast baseplate.

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Looks almost like a Venture baseplate.

Really rough casting on these, does it say what alloy they use?

Oh man, it does look like Venture with the hole placement way back.

Does a skate tool work on these?

If so, then we can assume the wheelbase is less than Venture so it looks like the clearance will be solid. I love the looks of these as well, raw silver has always been my favorite.

[Xen]

I skated them a few times now and posted a video a few pages back of the turn.
I’m a fan. Great turn and in the realm of Indy/ace.

How is the:

Wheelbite?
Pop feel?
The Grind? What brand do they grind similar too?
Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over?
Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?

Sheesh, man, fervent OCD truck nerd minds need to know!

(I'm just messing with you

[144p]

How is the:

Wheelbite? I switched from 52 to 54 today, some wheelbite but wasn’t bad

Pop feel? I really like it, super responsive and my shuvs felt better than ever
The Grind? Initially I was skeptical but since these are a raw truck meaning no polish it took a little bit to wear off that semi rough surface and now they grind like a champ.

 What brand do they grind similar too? I skated a curb today and went back and forth between my Indus and these and there was no difference

Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
I had no issues fitting a skate tool in, definitely not the same axle placement as venture. The axle seems farther back like Indy. Also no issues loosening or tightening the kingpin as well

Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over? I had zero issues with any of this, the bushings felt great out of the gate, no squeaks or anything.

Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily.

I filmed a few grinds, the turn was even better today, the trucks really performed well. I have no plans of taking them off or going back to Indy. Today I skated a park and did lots of manuals and all my normal flip tricks felt great.

[rocklobster]

Damn that curb look so fun!

The whole truck has venture vibes for sure.

As for casting, I'm seen some pretty rough ass Thunder teams in my time and FWIW they look just like Theeves, being more pitted...but honestly, out of the gate casting, as long as the truck is durable, doesn't mean anything to me anymore since I'm going to trash them in the first 5min of use.

My set shipped out this morning (go Skate Warehouse working on Sundays, get them dollas boys!).

35th ave. dude, do you have any shots of the IKP plate bottom? Assuming it's Film/Krux style and not some elaborate Indy plate method.

Theeve pic
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1955/1231/products/TE-9347798002580_1400x.jpg?v=1575497222

You know the drill, wheelbase measurements!

[jsettle]

How is the:

Wheelbite? I switched from 52 to 54 today, some wheelbite but wasn’t bad

Pop feel? I really like it, super responsive and my shuvs felt better than ever
The Grind? Initially I was skeptical but since these are a raw truck meaning no polish it took a little bit to wear off that semi rough surface and now they grind like a champ.

 What brand do they grind similar too? I skated a curb today and went back and forth between my Indus and these and there was no difference

Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
I had no issues fitting a skate tool in, definitely not the same axle placement as venture. The axle seems farther back like Indy. Also no issues loosening or tightening the kingpin as well

Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over? I had zero issues with any of this, the bushings felt great out of the gate, no squeaks or anything.

Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily.

I filmed a few grinds, the turn was even better today, the trucks really performed well. I have no plans of taking them off or going back to Indy. Today I skated a park and did lots of manuals and all my normal flip tricks felt great.

Curb Clips were so sick! that curb spot looks amazing to skate from the angle of the curb to the train in the background...Always a fan of some good slappies! Making me want the royals more now

[144p]

I’ve never measured the true wb, is this center of axle to center of axle?

[GBLange]

curbs super buttery..awesome..

[Xen]

How is the:

Wheelbite? I switched from 52 to 54 today, some wheelbite but wasn’t bad

Pop feel? I really like it, super responsive and my shuvs felt better than ever
The Grind? Initially I was skeptical but since these are a raw truck meaning no polish it took a little bit to wear off that semi rough surface and now they grind like a champ.

 What brand do they grind similar too? I skated a curb today and went back and forth between my Indus and these and there was no difference

Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
I had no issues fitting a skate tool in, definitely not the same axle placement as venture. The axle seems farther back like Indy. Also no issues loosening or tightening the kingpin as well

Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over? I had zero issues with any of this, the bushings felt great out of the gate, no squeaks or anything.

Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily.

I filmed a few grinds, the turn was even better today, the trucks really performed well. I have no plans of taking them off or going back to Indy. Today I skated a park and did lots of manuals and all my normal flip tricks felt great.

MVP! I didn't expect you to answer, but thanks man! G'nard.

Sick clips man, jealous of that spot. The look like they grind just fine, good pinch too.

"Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily."

I was asking if they had some special setup like the indy mids or just a hex shaped hole like the films.

[144p]

I put my krux kingpins in these, haven’t seen their version yet but assuming it’s no different than what I did.

[144p]

I’m riding a habitat board with 14.25 wb and from center of axle to center of axle is 17 3/8.
Truck nerds please decipher this.

[rocklobster]

I’m riding a habitat board with 14.25 wb and from center of axle to center of axle is 17 3/8.
Truck nerds please decipher this.

Thanks for entertaining the request!

+3.125" - so somewhere like a Indy Forged or Thunder Team Standard

[Xen]

I’ve never measured the true wb, is this center of axle to center of axle?

Yep.

My guess is that if they turn like an Indy (ACE/ML/Theeve and to a lesser extent, Tensor) they they'll be a tighter / pulled in WB vs the Thunder/Venture extended WB...unless Crail worked some voodoo.

I spent the week on 148 thunder teams, Saturday on 149 ti forged indys and today on 149 Tenosr ATGs getting ready for some comparisons come monday or tuesday.

[144p]

It’s a quick but very stable turn, after a full day on them I really like the feel a lot.

[rocklobster]

If anyone can confirm the height that would be rad, I can feel the money loosening from my wallet already

[Xen]

If anyone can confirm the height that would be rad, I can feel the money loosening from my wallet already

I believe it was said they are 52mm (re-read that, not sure anyone has confirmed yet).

[144p]

I measured from the middle of the axle to my deck and it looks to be about 53mm or 2.125 inches

[rocklobster]

https://www.tactics.com/thunder/polished-skateboard-trucks/polished-147

Sounds similar to a Thunder Team Standard. Still hoping the smaller 8.0 - 8.25 variant come in a little lower.

[Beeker]

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I’ve never measured the true wb, is this center of axle to center of axle?

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Yep.

My guess is that if they turn like an Indy (ACE/ML/Theeve and to a lesser extent, Tensor) they they'll be a tighter / pulled in WB vs the Thunder/Venture extended WB...unless Crail worked some voodoo.

I spent the week on 148 thunder teams, Saturday on 149 ti forged indys and today on 149 Tenosr ATGs getting ready for some comparisons come monday or tuesday.

Did you get the inverted kingpin? I'm curious to know if it's a loose nut, or if it's 'built in'.

[SharkJohnson]

tactics has the height of the new royals at 55mm, can anyone confirm or deny?

[rocklobster]

tactics has the height of the new royals at 55mm, can anyone confirm or deny?

https://www.tactics.com/royal/skateboard-trucks

Where are you seeing 55mm? The specs for the new trucks haven't been updated.

Tactics used to be the gold standard for measurements, but they've been slipping recently.
https://www.tactics.com/venture/og-v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/polished-green-wings-56-hi

Measurements on the Ventures are all over the place.

[SharkJohnson]

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tactics has the height of the new royals at 55mm, can anyone confirm or deny?

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https://www.tactics.com/royal/skateboard-trucks

Where are you seeing 55mm? The specs for the new trucks haven't been updated.

Tactics used to be the gold standard for measurements, but they've been slipping recently.
https://www.tactics.com/venture/og-v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/polished-green-wings-56-hi

Measurements on the Ventures are all over the place.

ok you got me i made the tactics part up...... anyone know the height of these trucks though?

[El Freegano]

How is the:

Wheelbite? I switched from 52 to 54 today, some wheelbite but wasn’t bad

Pop feel? I really like it, super responsive and my shuvs felt better than ever
The Grind? Initially I was skeptical but since these are a raw truck meaning no polish it took a little bit to wear off that semi rough surface and now they grind like a champ.

 What brand do they grind similar too? I skated a curb today and went back and forth between my Indus and these and there was no difference

Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
I had no issues fitting a skate tool in, definitely not the same axle placement as venture. The axle seems farther back like Indy. Also no issues loosening or tightening the kingpin as well

Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over? I had zero issues with any of this, the bushings felt great out of the gate, no squeaks or anything.

Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily.

I filmed a few grinds, the turn was even better today, the trucks really performed well. I have no plans of taking them off or going back to Indy. Today I skated a park and did lots of manuals and all my normal flip tricks felt great.

Thanx for the answers and the rad video. You rock and the spot is dope. The trucks seem to grind way better than the old models (i have a pair of royal lows that are good only for flatground flip tricks and some crooks)

[RichardBarkley]

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How is the:

Wheelbite? I switched from 52 to 54 today, some wheelbite but wasn’t bad

Pop feel? I really like it, super responsive and my shuvs felt better than ever
The Grind? Initially I was skeptical but since these are a raw truck meaning no polish it took a little bit to wear off that semi rough surface and now they grind like a champ.

 What brand do they grind similar too? I skated a curb today and went back and forth between my Indus and these and there was no difference

Clearance for mounting hardware or kingpin?
I had no issues fitting a skate tool in, definitely not the same axle placement as venture. The axle seems farther back like Indy. Also no issues loosening or tightening the kingpin as well

Washer situation? Top Washer Binding? Any bushing spill over? I had zero issues with any of this, the bushings felt great out of the gate, no squeaks or anything.

Is there a special plate design or just shaped like regular [deez] nuts?
I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily.

I filmed a few grinds, the turn was even better today, the trucks really performed well. I have no plans of taking them off or going back to Indy. Today I skated a park and did lots of manuals and all my normal flip tricks felt great.

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Thanx for the answers and the rad video. You rock and the spot is dope. The trucks seem to grind way better than the old models (i have a pair of royal lows that are good only for flatground flip tricks and some crooks)

Agreed that first slappy crook was extremely satisfying.

[Xen]

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I’ve never measured the true wb, is this center of axle to center of axle?

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Yep.

My guess is that if they turn like an Indy (ACE/ML/Theeve and to a lesser extent, Tensor) they they'll be a tighter / pulled in WB vs the Thunder/Venture extended WB...unless Crail worked some voodoo.

I spent the week on 148 thunder teams, Saturday on 149 ti forged indys and today on 149 Tenosr ATGs getting ready for some comparisons come monday or tuesday.

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Did you get the inverted kingpin? I'm curious to know if it's a loose nut, or if it's 'built in'.

He did and replaced it with the krux downlow (old hollow one, not the new indy style) I asked the same question the response was "I’m not sure what you’re referencing but the opening where the kingpin goes secures a nut for the down low kingpin easily." So 'm guessing the plate design hold it (like Krux) vs a hex head like film or indy's heavy and elaborate threaded plug style setup.

[manysnakes]

I never anticipated riding Royals, but if there's a stock truck that turns like an Indy or Ace and accepts a standard Nylock nut on the baseplate without modification, I am very interested.

[rocklobster]

Hell now I'm curious how bad the original ones were that any improvement is considered monumental. I would like to try a pair of the old Lows or ones with hex head.