New Ace AF1 *Low* announced

[Texas_Tone]

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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

I’m not sure in reality man, lower center of gravitymaybe? I just was just kinda talking out my ass

[manysnakes]

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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

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i learned frontside slappies on 49mm trucks (thunder 147 lights are around that height i think). the old royals are like 50mm and i can slappy those fine too. not sure if a lower trucks is better at all, but eh once you know how to do them anything works imo.

i'll probably grab the 44s when they come out. anyone have an idea on a release date?

Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to learn them on any truck. I just mean that I've not heard anyone in the slappy crowd say "gotta get those lows!"

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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

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i learned frontside slappies on 49mm trucks (thunder 147 lights are around that height i think). the old royals are like 50mm and i can slappy those fine too. not sure if a lower trucks is better at all, but eh once you know how to do them anything works imo.

i'll probably grab the 44s when they come out. anyone have an idea on a release date?

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Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to learn them on any truck. I just mean that I've not heard anyone in the slappy crowd say "gotta get those lows!"

I’m a slappy dude and skate thunders but do so simply because I like being lower to the ground, not because I think they make slappys easier.

[Texas_Tone]

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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

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i learned frontside slappies on 49mm trucks (thunder 147 lights are around that height i think). the old royals are like 50mm and i can slappy those fine too. not sure if a lower trucks is better at all, but eh once you know how to do them anything works imo.

i'll probably grab the 44s when they come out. anyone have an idea on a release date?

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Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to learn them on any truck. I just mean that I've not heard anyone in the slappy crowd say "gotta get those lows!"

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I’m a slappy dude and skate thunders but do so simply because I like being lower to the ground, not because I think they make slappys easier.

Makes sense, you gonna get these?

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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

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i learned frontside slappies on 49mm trucks (thunder 147 lights are around that height i think). the old royals are like 50mm and i can slappy those fine too. not sure if a lower trucks is better at all, but eh once you know how to do them anything works imo.

i'll probably grab the 44s when they come out. anyone have an idea on a release date?

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Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to learn them on any truck. I just mean that I've not heard anyone in the slappy crowd say "gotta get those lows!"

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I’m a slappy dude and skate thunders but do so simply because I like being lower to the ground, not because I think they make slappys easier.

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Makes sense, you gonna get these?

Considering it. I think I’ll just chill for a bit until I see what other people think before I buy. If I hear good things and my local has the 22s I’ll probably try out.

[Xen]

As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

[rocklobster]

As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

They beat Venture to the punch by releasing a low truck in larger sizes.

And I concur on the Royals, those rock and I foresee myself sticking on them for the next few decks. Gradually shifting my stack to decks with 14.25 WB, maybe 14.38.

[munchbox]

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As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

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They beat Venture to the punch by releasing a low truck in larger sizes.

id say guinea pigged if anything
talked to a dlxsf rep 1yr ago and they couldnt properly gauge the interest in low ventures over 5.2 (even tho i want em)
id assume if the af1 low does well they might go for it

[pops]

Honestly I'd just be happy with an Ace classic in 8.75. Don't need low, hollow or even AF1. Just a bog standard 60 Classic.

If anything, I'd also be happy even with classic 8.75. What would be it called, Ace 50s? Even better if they made those Af1 60's, hollow or not.

[j....soy.....]

Like venture going high, I suspect it came from feedback of riders and market demand.  It ticks a lot of boxes.  Lighter, shrinks the wheel base, low but the geo will likely be set back a bit for a balanced pop….decent clearance.  Better marketing than a lot of newer trucks. 

[Sativa Lung]

Now THIS is what I've been waiting for. I will definitely be grabbing these as soon as humanly possible.

[Mean salto]

What turns a lot of people off aces is the fear of wobblyness so making lows might get a different range of customers. (I assume lows are still considered to be more stable)

Also I see these being popular in japan

[chris.]

I'm here for this.

I've gone back and forth between Venture and Ace for a few years now, currently fully Awake, but these will be purchased no doubt. I love how low and wide feels.

[logjammin]

But you can't turn....

[LebowskisRug]

Like venture going high, I suspect it came from feedback of riders and market demand.  It ticks a lot of boxes.  Lighter, shrinks the wheel base, low but the geo will likely be set back a bit for a balanced pop….decent clearance.  Better marketing than a lot of newer trucks.

Venture went to the low end of high since high trucks are like 98% of the market. I could see these maybe competing with Thunder 147s tho.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

So 2022 is going to be even weirder than 2021 then yeah?

Honestly surprised they didn’t try to first work on some improvements on the AF1 or at least some products (I.e. pivot cups) that would solve some of the issues people are having with them.

[Carter]

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Anybody else sees how deep the top bushing is sitting or do I see that wrong?
If it is anywhere near the thunder 147 pop feel, turns and has some kingpin clearance that would be great.

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just based off where the axles sit i doubt they pop like thunders despite the height difference

my thunder lights are 49mm axle clearing so im guessing they would feel the same

[rocklobster]

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As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

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They beat Venture to the punch by releasing a low truck in larger sizes.

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id say guinea pigged if anything
talked to a dlxsf rep 1yr ago and they couldnt properly gauge the interest in low ventures over 5.2 (even tho i want em)
id assume if the af1 low does well they might go for it

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As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

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They beat Venture to the punch by releasing a low truck in larger sizes.

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id say guinea pigged if anything
talked to a dlxsf rep 1yr ago and they couldnt properly gauge the interest in low ventures over 5.2 (even tho i want em)
id assume if the af1 low does well they might go for it

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Haahaha
Perfect.
5.2 lo’s the goat
Young person at the skate shop was aghast: ‘we skate a lot of street, so I need like minimum, 55-56mm wheels’.

[palelight]

So would these be the trucks Christian Maalouf posted on his stories last month? Doesn't strike me as a low trucks kind of guy but who knows.

Christian Maalouf posted the hollows today

[Lou Strux]

My’pologies if anybody’s already asked  this, but how would these low baseplates interface with standard AF1 or even Classic geos?
Asking with a mind toward a) potentially reducing kingpin height/grind clearance w/o having to deal w/ the usual IKP issues, and b) getting a hollow pin out the deal while we’re at it.
If Ace sells replacement plates for these like they have with the Classics, AND they work together with their other hangers, AND I can run standard bottom bush w/ low tops to keep the nut’s threads engaged, well… what’s to keep me from Frankentrucking my way to a better Ace?
I’ve got to be missing something here, right?
Help me out with this, y’all.

[palelight]

My’pologies if anybody’s already asked  this, but how would these low baseplates interface with standard AF1 or even Classic geos?
Asking with a mind toward a) potentially reducing kingpin height/grind clearance w/o having to deal w/ the usual IKP issues, and b) getting a hollow pin out the deal while we’re at it.
If Ace sells replacement plates for these like they have with the Classics, AND they work together with their other hangers, AND I can run standard bottom bush w/ low tops to keep the nut’s threads engaged, well… what’s to keep me from Frankentrucking my way to a better Ace?
I’ve got to be missing something here, right?
Help me out with this, y’all.

Probably have to wait until they're in hands to get a definitive answer, but the previous lows were not interchangeable with standards. I'm pretty sure on that, but I'm willing to be wrong. I think with the completely different bushings between standards and lows there's incompatibility in the geometry. Definitely not like newer Indy's where things can be swapped.

edit: just talking about Classics.

[Mcidraque]

according to euro distributor this lows are pretty much:

- hollow kingping
- af1 hangers
- height reduction comes from baseplate (so throwing an 1/8 riser would make them more or less your current ace height)

beign an ace classic aficionado if they made a classic 60 i would cop no doubt

[Xen]

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As a fan of the ACE03, the draw here is that you get a carvey low truck (like Mini Logo...but better ) but with less wheelbite than other low trucks, that's the beauty of the ACE geo; I ran them with Bones Hards and they were fucking amazing.

I'm in deep with the Royals at 52mm, not sure I *need* to go any lower tho.

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They beat Venture to the punch by releasing a low truck in larger sizes.

And I concur on the Royals, those rock and I foresee myself sticking on them for the next few decks. Gradually shifting my stack to decks with 14.25 WB, maybe 14.38.

I'm still running the royals in a 14.33ish WB and it's great, tho I think that's more me needing a longer wb rather than the Royals. Great combo tho.

[Mbrimson88]

My’pologies if anybody’s already asked  this, but how would these low baseplates interface with standard AF1 or even Classic geos?
Asking with a mind toward a) potentially reducing kingpin height/grind clearance w/o having to deal w/ the usual IKP issues, and b) getting a hollow pin out the deal while we’re at it.
If Ace sells replacement plates for these like they have with the Classics, AND they work together with their other hangers, AND I can run standard bottom bush w/ low tops to keep the nut’s threads engaged, well… what’s to keep me from Frankentrucking my way to a better Ace?
I’ve got to be missing something here, right?
Help me out with this, y’all.

I think you would have to check pics but they look comparable so could easily play mix and match, as I have done with all versions of Indy trucks, when I had them to try.


Looking for spec pics I know I have seen before, but even just looking at the Classics, I would say you could possibly interchange them, but would have to wait until you have the product in your hands to get the true assessment.

Should have just cropped out the side view, but it is easy enough to open in a separate window and compare pics on a computer.


https://i.imgur.com/BWnIk3l.jpeg



EDIT - Found a better pic of the classics but still looking for a good profile pic of the normal AF1 trucks:






EDIT 2 - found a good AF1 pic:





Pic from first page:


https://i.imgur.com/6yanbCk.jpeg

[chihuahuadad2000]

I got Ace’s last year after a decade plus of riding Indy and Thunders. I fucking love them, and the difference is huge imo. I'm gonna ride those Ace’s right into the pearly gates, they’re that fucking good. The turning on them is unfuckwithable. They’ve changed my skating for good, wish I had tried them years ago. Can’t wait to try the lows but still don’t really understand the difference its going to make skating… so lows mean less pop but more stable? And higher chance of wheelbite? So would they be good for a bowl setup then? 

[newspaperparty]

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Ridiculous, 49mm is for kids. Ace, release the standard Af1 hollows in 8.75.

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Exactly! I don’t have any need for a low truck (that I know of at least) but an 8.75” AF1 I’d buy immediately.

Adding my desire for a 8.75 standard AF1. Someone from Ace please view this thread and let your people know what the people actually want

[kenjiro]

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Ridiculous, 49mm is for kids. Ace, release the standard Af1 hollows in 8.75.

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Exactly! I don’t have any need for a low truck (that I know of at least) but an 8.75” AF1 I’d buy immediately.

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Adding my desire for a 8.75 standard AF1. Someone from Ace please view this thread and let your people know what the people actually want

Yeah… 49mm is a lil insane imo. I really just want a less
heavy ace. strongly considering just getting risers when these are released

[Frank and Fred]

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Ridiculous, 49mm is for kids. Ace, release the standard Af1 hollows in 8.75.

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Exactly! I don’t have any need for a low truck (that I know of at least) but an 8.75” AF1 I’d buy immediately.

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Adding my desire for a 8.75 standard AF1. Someone from Ace please view this thread and let your people know what the people actually want

Pretty sure its on the way based on some of the comments on their insta. So is an 88 big boy truck.

[GBLange]

pair with 40-48mm wheels, this could be fun..