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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".
I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.
lmao what the hell is this
People that hate on Andy (yourself included) are doing so based on his character and his actions/behavior. That's like, pretty much the only reasonable basis to dislike someone. Comparing that to how minorities are treated is sus as hell.
Wait wut?
Hating on an individual for the way they behave does not conflict with thinking that skateboarding should be inclusive to minorities/sub-groups.
Let me clarify:
I don't like hearing about his shape. His style of skating doesn't appeal to me. I think he gets more scrutiny for doing tricks that don't look good/traditional than people from other areas of skating do. Any time he puts out anything at all he gets dragged through the mud here.
Andy is clearly a white dude and not from the LGBTQ+ community, so he is from a highly represented demographic. It's not a 1:1 comparison. In terms of skateboarding, he does tricks from a weird realm that isn't considered common and mixes it with stuff that sorta is. He surrounds himself with people that are not "cool". I wasn't clear on that as it was a morning shit post.
Simply put I just wish people would make it less of a point contributing to toxic dialogue about the things they dislike, whatever that may be. Endless circle jerks hating on && (or whatever) are just karma-farming opportunities none of the actual dialogue does anything positive. I am definitely guilty of this myself and often think back to how when I was a kid getting into skating there wasn't space to like things that were not considered cool or normal, which extended to styles and disciplines of skating. It was this immature, exclusive dialogue that has gotten far better over time, but still pops up and I wish it didn't.
Just quickly giving my 2 cents, as an '&& hater':
If anything I got some minuses for hating on the guy. I couldn't resist cause for a while I thought everyone loved him, so reading some of those threads was refreshing.
What I posted was some random weak hate too, I checked back and I just said I dislike how he gets so much extra attention for doing common freestyle stuff.
But I can see it getting weird when the hate is towards his appearance and how some minorities can end up in a similar spot.
And as for my unpopular entry:
Pressure flip is an underrated trick. You can actually pop and catch it high, it has that cool inward motion and it doesn't even destroy your shoe.