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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3090 on: December 05, 2022, 08:58:11 AM »
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Fat Bills videos are often filmed terribly but are more memorable and impactful than 90% of the edits that go up on thrasher or anything else from the past ten years. He’s also one of the only “brands” consistently doing full lengths
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It's the skaters/locations/songs more than his filming style.

Johnny Wilson would make a better supreme vid than Billy the Fatty.

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Agreed on both points. I actually found the use of Deftones' - Change and Metallica's One pretty tasteful.

Maybe unpopular opinion, I actually didn't love the use of One. I just don't think it pairs well with a relatively low impact part with a lot of manuals. I could see it working well with a Milton part or something gnarlier.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3091 on: December 05, 2022, 08:59:59 AM »
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Not sure if this is unpopular or just an issue for just a few folks, but I don’t fully understand why people get bent out of shape over people dropping parts for a “SOTY run”.
I’m just stoked to see so much crazy ass footage.

Yeah, I get the whole idea of it being deliberate grabs at the award, but SOTY doesn’t matter whatsoever in the grand scheme of things. It doesn’t harm anyone or anything other than maybe someone’s feelings.

Tl;dr: stop whining about deliberate “SOTY grabs” and just enjoy the insane amount of amazing footage we’re getting.
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Right? Don’t get mad about SOTY Santa he brings fun gifts this time of year
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It's just leftover silliness from the days where skateboarders had to be too cool. You aren't allowed to ever try or have goals you just have to somehow be naturally the best and let the big boys come to you and tell you you're in when theyre good and ready
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3092 on: December 05, 2022, 09:51:07 AM »
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Fat Bills videos are often filmed terribly but are more memorable and impactful than 90% of the edits that go up on thrasher or anything else from the past ten years. He’s also one of the only “brands” consistently doing full lengths
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It's the skaters/locations/songs more than his filming style.

Johnny Wilson would make a better supreme vid than Billy the Fatty.

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Agreed on both points. I actually found the use of Deftones' - Change and Metallica's One pretty tasteful.
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Maybe unpopular opinion, I actually didn't love the use of One. I just don't think it pairs well with a relatively low impact part with a lot of manuals. I could see it working well with a Milton part or something gnarlier.

Would have been better if it was just nik stains part. and they left the gnarly spot super high speed stuff for the heavy section. but i still enjoyed it

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3093 on: December 06, 2022, 12:45:36 AM »
everytime i see tj footage i think of the james harden quote where he's talking about giannis and he says "i wish i could just run and dunk, that takes no skill at all"

i'm genetically gifted at jumping. can dunk, get comments from randoms at the park every time i skate saying "that's the highest kickflip i've ever seen" or whatever, but i'm not even good at skating i just have monumental pop. i always feel like a fraud for getting undue praise for something that i was kind of born with

obviously the harden quote is pure cope, giannis has worked hard to develop his game and has a chip as a result. and life isn't fair with the hand you get

but the amount of tj dickriding is so bad. he can do stuff most people will never physically be able to do, and that's cool. everyone loves the dunk contest

but the guys with the highest vertical in the nba aren't winning mvp

skill-wise he isn't close to louie or nigel


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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3094 on: December 06, 2022, 06:35:06 AM »
everytime i see tj footage i think of the james harden quote where he's talking about giannis and he says "i wish i could just run and dunk, that takes no skill at all"

i'm genetically gifted at jumping. can dunk, get comments from randoms at the park every time i skate saying "that's the highest kickflip i've ever seen" or whatever, but i'm not even good at skating i just have monumental pop. i always feel like a fraud for getting undue praise for something that i was kind of born with

obviously the harden quote is pure cope, giannis has worked hard to develop his game and has a chip as a result. and life isn't fair with the hand you get

but the amount of tj dickriding is so bad. he can do stuff most people will never physically be able to do, and that's cool. everyone loves the dunk contest

but the guys with the highest vertical in the nba aren't winning mvp

skill-wise he isn't close to louie or nigel

I don’t think skating has ever been about how big your dad is
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3095 on: December 06, 2022, 07:28:41 AM »
"bad" skating is way more fun to watch and it brings me more joy than any pros footage

I just like good videos. People having fun doing simpler tricks can be a great watch, but it's also cool to see people do mind-blowing shit that pushes the limits of what is possible on a skateboard.
Similarly, I like going to a fancy steakhouse, but I'll still happily fuck up some Waffle House.
I like a lot of low-budget indy films, but I still watch plenty of massive blockbusters.
You're entitled to your preferences, but to me they don't scratch the same itch so it could never be either/or.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3096 on: December 06, 2022, 07:31:06 AM »
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Fat Bills videos are often filmed terribly but are more memorable and impactful than 90% of the edits that go up on thrasher or anything else from the past ten years. He’s also one of the only “brands” consistently doing full lengths
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It's the skaters/locations/songs more than his filming style.

Johnny Wilson would make a better supreme vid than Billy the Fatty.

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Agreed on both points. I actually found the use of Deftones' - Change and Metallica's One pretty tasteful.
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Maybe unpopular opinion, I actually didn't love the use of One. I just don't think it pairs well with a relatively low impact part with a lot of manuals. I could see it working well with a Milton part or something gnarlier.

thought the same thing on my first watch but it grew on me though I could see fuckin' Filipe Ortiz skate to it in 2007 or whatever

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3097 on: December 06, 2022, 07:34:30 AM »
I can't stand SOTY season and the entire discussion it makes me not give a shit about whatever parts are in the running.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3098 on: December 06, 2022, 07:37:32 AM »
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"bad" skating is way more fun to watch and it brings me more joy than any pros footage
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I have the opposite opinion. I wish less people filmed skating in general, social media is just inundated with shitty skaters looking for validation. I only appreciate skating in its highest form which is great skating and good filming.
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i think skating should die a little bit just so the incessant dogshit fades away a little, seeing total beginners do wack shit at wack spots just so they can post on instagram gets really old
seeing people having fun skating doing "simple" tricks well is more what i mean

Have you considered that you could not watch skateboarding you don't like?
This is not my SOTY. I'm telling my kids there was no SOTY for 2021

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3099 on: December 06, 2022, 07:43:15 AM »
TJ is miles more interesting than Louie or Nyjah ( ::)) because of the shit he can't do. He's been putting out parts for more than a decade now and I swear his first switch push on camera came out this month. He's not dexterous. He's not crooking for miles. He's a guy with incredible skill who's still clearly fighting for all the tricks he gets.

I'm biased though that Louie UC spitfire part was so boring man I don't even wanna watch the converse thing
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3100 on: December 08, 2022, 01:02:54 PM »
I think my biggest takeaway from this years SOTY race is that i dont think footage from prior years should count.

I know this might be an UNPOPULAR OPINION (i said the thing), but let me explain.

The race for SOTY and its criteria are already vague enough, some clarity would help IMO. Most people (myself included) dont like that it seems to have become basically a "who can put out the most/best footy in nov/dec of that year" award. Putting a limit on SOTY to being just what you did that year would not only more closely reflect what people think the award should mean, but it would also change up the whole releasing a bunch of parts at the end of the year META since people couldnt just stack clips forever.

Which leads to my next point, we already see how calculated this race has become, what do you think it will be like 10 years in the future? Dudes will just be holding onto footy for like fucking 5-10 years and releasing hour long parts of enders in December. I dont think anyone wants that, nor do they think thats what SOTY means.

I hereby officially withdraw footage from prior years from my consideration for SOTY.

GET REGULATED.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3101 on: December 08, 2022, 01:04:59 PM »
Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants.
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3102 on: December 08, 2022, 01:33:47 PM »
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Fat Bills videos are often filmed terribly but are more memorable and impactful than 90% of the edits that go up on thrasher or anything else from the past ten years. He’s also one of the only “brands” consistently doing full lengths
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It's the skaters/locations/songs more than his filming style.

Johnny Wilson would make a better supreme vid than Billy the Fatty.

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Agreed on both points. I actually found the use of Deftones' - Change and Metallica's One pretty tasteful.
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Maybe unpopular opinion, I actually didn't love the use of One. I just don't think it pairs well with a relatively low impact part with a lot of manuals. I could see it working well with a Milton part or something gnarlier.

Thanks, I also found the mix of One and those low impact manual tricks weird. Would have been a great fit for a Nyjah part  ::)

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3103 on: December 08, 2022, 02:24:12 PM »
Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants. cuts the biggest check.

First part is definitely true, though.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3104 on: December 08, 2022, 03:47:17 PM »
I think my biggest takeaway from this years SOTY race is that i dont think footage from prior years should count.

I know this might be an UNPOPULAR OPINION (i said the thing), but let me explain.

The race for SOTY and its criteria are already vague enough, some clarity would help IMO. Most people (myself included) dont like that it seems to have become basically a "who can put out the most/best footy in nov/dec of that year" award. Putting a limit on SOTY to being just what you did that year would not only more closely reflect what people think the award should mean, but it would also change up the whole releasing a bunch of parts at the end of the year META since people couldnt just stack clips forever.

Which leads to my next point, we already see how calculated this race has become, what do you think it will be like 10 years in the future? Dudes will just be holding onto footy for like fucking 5-10 years and releasing hour long parts of enders in December. I dont think anyone wants that, nor do they think thats what SOTY means.

I hereby officially withdraw footage from prior years from my consideration for SOTY.

GET REGULATED.
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3105 on: December 08, 2022, 07:35:17 PM »
Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants.

You're not wrong, I'm just being idealistic.


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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3106 on: December 08, 2022, 07:45:45 PM »
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Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants.
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You're not wrong, I'm just being idealistic.

We all know SOTY is a thrasher popularity contest. And thrasher is invested in picking image appropriate skaters.

I think skating is in its most jockish form when debating potential SOTY.


It’s still fun though

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3107 on: December 08, 2022, 08:00:16 PM »
Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants.

Comments like these are keeping you from getting my POTY vote.

Is my opinion a joke to you???
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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3108 on: December 09, 2022, 10:44:49 AM »
I’ve had Spitfire formula fours a few times in recent years but they never felt different than the generic CCS wheels I used to buy

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3109 on: December 09, 2022, 10:46:52 AM »
I’ve had Spitfire formula fours a few times in recent years but they never felt different than the generic CCS wheels I used to buy

Either you don't ever slide or I need those ccs wheels

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3110 on: December 09, 2022, 11:22:55 AM »
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Literally every skater who has ever won SOTY did so on the basis of footage collected over the previous years.

Also all this "who should win SOTY" talk is silly because Michael Burnett is going to choose whoever he wants.
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You're not wrong, I'm just being idealistic.
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We all know SOTY is a thrasher popularity contest. And thrasher is invested in picking image appropriate skaters.

I think skating is in its most jockish form when debating potential SOTY.


It’s still fun though
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But I didn’t think Thrasher would become that jockish

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3111 on: December 09, 2022, 11:24:16 AM »
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I’ve had Spitfire formula fours a few times in recent years but they never felt different than the generic CCS wheels I used to buy
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Either you don't ever slide or I need those ccs wheels
I honestly have never noticed a difference in how wheels slide. Maybe it’s just me

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3112 on: December 09, 2022, 02:26:05 PM »
Not enough SOTY threads right now, we need more

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3113 on: December 09, 2022, 02:53:35 PM »
Not enough SOTY threads right now, we need more

There isn't a "who deserved SOTY but didn't get it" thread.
Or "who is SOTD (skater of the decade)"
Or "who is the over 30 SOTY"
Or "who is the under 20 SOTY"
Or "which SOTY is the most romantic, you know, like he really makes you feel like the most important person in the world, as though time and space have ceased to exist and it's just you and him floating through eternity forever and ever"

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3114 on: December 09, 2022, 03:03:41 PM »
The kickflip ist harder than the bs flip

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3115 on: December 09, 2022, 04:35:52 PM »
The kickflip ist harder than the bs flip

Interesting. I'm a kickflip guy. Like I devote a lot of time and effort into ensuring I always have a big, poppy, floaty kickflip. It's literally the thing I spend the most time refining. I spend the first 30 minutes of any given session just skating around doing kickflips. I hate my backside flips. I can do them but I never feel good about them.
But then, I want my backside flips to almost look like a backside 180 dragonflip, like I try to fold them a bit.
When I do them the normal way I always over rotate a bit and have to tic tac. Drives me crazy.
When I get them to flip more horizontally I can actually stomp them bolts with no tic tac, but it's wayyyyy harder.

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3116 on: December 09, 2022, 04:38:43 PM »
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The kickflip ist harder than the bs flip
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Interesting. I'm a kickflip guy. Like I devote a lot of time and effort into ensuring I always have a big, poppy, floaty kickflip. It's literally the thing I spend the most time refining. I spend the first 30 minutes of any given session just skating around doing kickflips. I hate my backside flips. I can do them but I never feel good about them.
But then, I want my backside flips to almost look like a backside 180 dragonflip, like I try to fold them a bit.
When I do them the normal way I always over rotate a bit and have to tic tac. Drives me crazy.
When I get them to flip more horizontally I can actually stomp them bolts with no tic tac, but it's wayyyyy harder.


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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3117 on: December 09, 2022, 04:41:17 PM »
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The kickflip ist harder than the bs flip
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Interesting. I'm a kickflip guy. Like I devote a lot of time and effort into ensuring I always have a big, poppy, floaty kickflip. It's literally the thing I spend the most time refining. I spend the first 30 minutes of any given session just skating around doing kickflips. I hate my backside flips. I can do them but I never feel good about them.
But then, I want my backside flips to almost look like a backside 180 dragonflip, like I try to fold them a bit.
When I do them the normal way I always over rotate a bit and have to tic tac. Drives me crazy.
When I get them to flip more horizontally I can actually stomp them bolts with no tic tac, but it's wayyyyy harder.
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Hahaha DOLPHIN not dragon. Goddamnit.
I'm still learning all these weird circus trick names...

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3118 on: December 09, 2022, 04:48:09 PM »
Eh just call it a forward flip. Sounds less youtube vloggerish

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Re: 2022 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #3119 on: December 09, 2022, 06:08:50 PM »
Yeah I had no idea what a dragon flip was and I felt Ok about that
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