Gear madness support thread

[Mbrimson88]

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Someone talk me off the ledge...

Normally ride DLX 8.25/14.38. It's been feeling a but small recently, and was toying with some other stuff. At the moment I am riding an 8.5/14.5 Black Label with 159s, and oddly LOVING IT (I am totally shocked by this). The kicks are a tad too steep for me, however. Then I remember Hewitt saying he rode the DLX 8.38/14.5 with 159s. I thought he was insane at the time, but now, now I am curious. I've ridden the 8.38 before, and never really liked it. Nose/tail were too round-ish for me, and tail was a tad too short...but curiosity now has me really wanting to try it with 159s (because I could get mellower kicks, with same WB), but I can't imagine wider trucks is suddenly going to transform my thoughts on the deck.

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My advice. Get more Label 8.5s and enjoy what you are currently stoked on a bit longer.

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^ Hah. Yes. Exactly. I should have clarified that this was not an immediate thing I'm planning on. I am currently really happy with the set-up, and have no plans of messing with it for now.

Probably just the same from me, but yeah, I ride a lot of 8.38s (with Indy 149 standards usually) and yes the shape is a more nimble version of the BBS 8.5 (same as the Black Label board) of which I also have a lot, but sometimes I do find the tail too short for some things on the 8.38 DLX board.

I did put 159s on both to test and although the 8.5 does work, I really felt like the 8.38 was just a bit weird with 159s in any capacity.  For someone like Peter Hewitt, predominantly vert and big bowl, I can see how 159s would be more stable on the 8.38 with 56 mm wheels, be it Classics, Radials or whatever else he might have on there, as per older posts of his boards, but there haven't been any recent posts of his setups, the last one being an 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb on 159 ti trucks and 57 mm Radials.

[Sedition]

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Someone talk me off the ledge...

Normally ride DLX 8.25/14.38. It's been feeling a but small recently, and was toying with some other stuff. At the moment I am riding an 8.5/14.5 Black Label with 159s, and oddly LOVING IT (I am totally shocked by this). The kicks are a tad too steep for me, however. Then I remember Hewitt saying he rode the DLX 8.38/14.5 with 159s. I thought he was insane at the time, but now, now I am curious. I've ridden the 8.38 before, and never really liked it. Nose/tail were too round-ish for me, and tail was a tad too short...but curiosity now has me really wanting to try it with 159s (because I could get mellower kicks, with same WB), but I can't imagine wider trucks is suddenly going to transform my thoughts on the deck.

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My advice. Get more Label 8.5s and enjoy what you are currently stoked on a bit longer.

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^ Hah. Yes. Exactly. I should have clarified that this was not an immediate thing I'm planning on. I am currently really happy with the set-up, and have no plans of messing with it for now.

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Probably just the same from me, but yeah, I ride a lot of 8.38s (with Indy 149 standards usually) and yes the shape is a more nimble version of the BBS 8.5 (same as the Black Label board) of which I also have a lot, but sometimes I do find the tail too short for some things on the 8.38 DLX board.

I did put 159s on both to test and although the 8.5 does work, I really felt like the 8.38 was just a bit weird with 159s in any capacity.  For someone like Peter Hewitt, predominantly vert and big bowl, I can see how 159s would be more stable on the 8.38 with 56 mm wheels, be it Classics, Radials or whatever else he might have on there, as per older posts of his boards, but there haven't been any recent posts of his setups, the last one being an 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb on 159 ti trucks and 57 mm Radials.

The more I think about this, the more I realize what an absolute terrible idea it is. If I’m going to fuck around with different size trucks, it ABSOLUTELY has to be couched in a deck I already know and love…doing that with a deck I already have a embattled and acrimonious relationship with, it’s not a good mix.

[Mbrimson88]

The more I think about this, the more I realize what an absolute terrible idea it is. If I’m going to fuck around with different size trucks, it ABSOLUTELY has to be couched in a deck I already know and love…doing that with a deck I already have a embattled and acrimonious relationship with, it’s not a good mix.

I have been setting up more DLX 8.75 boards lately - just works for something I don't have to think about - Indy 159s and often a little wider wheel than what I might have on smaller boards (Radial Full 54 mm or Classic Full 56 mm), so I can just enjoy having fun sessions, but I really do think I could stay with this size if it wasn't for the fact that I have way too many 8.38 and 8.5 boards, plus the fact that if I ever do want to get a little more techy like I used to, smaller boards are way easier to do those things on, so I am happy to have both options.

Whatever happens on any given day, I can grab either board out and still have a good session, or at the very least, a good roll around if I am not feeling it or things just don't quite work out.

Having something I am stoked on is almost better than any other combination of product I could dream up or set up from everything that is available, so finding that mix is the main thing for me now.  Not getting any younger, plus I don't have to impress anyone so just being stoked on these boards, I am already ahead out the gate.

That's how I think about it anyway.

[Bongwater Mojito]

Whatever happens on any given day, I can grab either board out and still have a good session, or at the very least, a good roll around if I am not feeling it or things just don't quite work out.

Having something I am stoked on is almost better than any other combination of product I could dream up or set up from everything that is available, so finding that mix is the main thing for me now.  Not getting any younger, plus I don't have to impress anyone so just being stoked on these boards, I am already ahead out the gate.

That's how I think about it anyway.

Feeling the same way - tried to trim my quiver down to one setup, but having two or three options seems to work better.

[Texas_Tone]

Royals are shorter than Aces. What you described sounds like you want an Indy.

Should have elboarated more, I was on ace lows my bad

[BeachChicken]

Ah damn, you made it to 2024 on lows? Props on staying true to what you've always ridden.

[Xen]

All I know is that it’s becoming too exhausting changing stuff all the time.

[Texas_Tone]

Ah damn, you made it to 2024 on lows? Props on staying true to what you've always ridden.

It’s terribly easy when all you gotta do is change out a hanger, if anyone need AF1 hollow baseplates lemme know

[BeachChicken]

def not a bad thing just surprised because along the years most people eventually went to highs, bigger boards, etc.

[Vintagebody]

Recently got a AH Eagle 8.38 w 14.5" WB. Skate with Thunders. Been mostly on 14.25 wheelbases, but also a 14.38 which I really loved. I actually notice I struggle with 180s or 360s. The true wheelbase is like 17.68", versus 17.43". So not that much difference, but my god is it noticeable. Thinking about swapping to my Indys so its 17,5". What you guys think?

[BeachChicken]

I've ridden that deck with Ace, Indy, Thunder, and Venture. I honestly like it the best on Thunders because it has a short tail and the lower height of the Thunders balances that out. WB isn't the be all and end all of everything. I disliked it on Aces honestly, Indys were a close second, Ventures I didn't skate it very long.

[Vintagebody]

I have both forged and std indys! I dont like short tails. Prefer 6.6"+

[Mbrimson88]

Recently got a AH Eagle 8.38 w 14.5" WB. Skate with Thunders. Been mostly on 14.25 wheelbases, but also a 14.38 which I really loved. I actually notice I struggle with 180s or 360s. The true wheelbase is like 17.68", versus 17.43". So not that much difference, but my god is it noticeable. Thinking about swapping to my Indys so its 17,5". What you guys think?

Been on that shape for quite a while now and yes it is somewhat more difficult to skate for street type stuff, but I am more transition / old guy chill type stuff so it is not too bad for me, although I definitely feel the short tail on it.

Then with all the drilling baseplates going on, I thought I would try it, even just the back truck only, drilled in 1/4" and I actually like it a lot more for an all rounder on Indy standards.  Definitely not for everyone, but it makes the tail feel more "normal" to me and I still like the nose as is.

Others have drilled in Ventures on both ends, which is a little too much, but as a street / tech board, they really like it.  Thunders can't easily be drilled in, so I would not even think about that as an option, but Indy and Venture, or any other truck which can easily be made in to an 8 hole baseplate is worth trying on it, if you are so inclined.

I still have lots of the normal 8.38 boards set up - yeah too many boards any which way you look at it - but this green eagle with drilled in baseplate actually works really well for me, so I am going to set up some more boards like this too and see how I go with them.

Not even six months ago I would have thought it crazy to drill in a single baseplate to skate on this board, but here I am, skating it and liking it a lot more, especially on the steeper boards I might not usually skate otherwise.  Baseplate is 1/4" in so that makes the wheelbase 14.25 now with a 6.7 or so tail.  The board is old and already worn down a little in the tail so it makes it work well.


* Some of the other 8.38 BBS boards all have 14.38 wb, with longer tails, so boards like Passport, Polar, Generator 8.38 and others all maybe feel that little bit better in that regard, just in case you were liking the width but wanted a bit more tail on your boards.

[FrenchSkater]

I was supposed to have a Real Deck 8.12, 31.3 and 14 wb board, but the shop where I ordered it was wrong, I received 8.12, 32 and 14.25 wb.. I said to myself "Fuck it madness, I love Real, and normally all the boards work with my indy forged hollows" THIS IS THE CASE!! If it can help people get out of madness... I'm really happy, I did my first session with this deck today, and it was perfect. Glad to finally no longer take into account lengths or wb.

When you think about it... It's only small millimeters of differences and when you think about it, it's stupid.. If we know how to do the tricks, we can do them with all boards.. But it's hard to reason when you're in hell.

[moonordie]

I was supposed to have a Real Deck 8.12, 31.3 and 14 wb board, but the shop where I ordered it was wrong, I received 8.12, 32 and 14.25 wb.. I said to myself "Fuck it madness, I love Real, and normally all the boards work with my indy forged hollows" THIS IS THE CASE!! If it can help people get out of madness... I'm really happy, I did my first session with this deck today, and it was perfect. Glad to finally no longer take into account lengths or wb.

When you think about it... It's only small millimeters of differences and when you think about it, it's stupid.. If we know how to do the tricks, we can do them with all boards.. But it's hard to reason when you're in hell.

How dare you?

[Mbrimson88]

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I was supposed to have a Real Deck 8.12, 31.3 and 14 wb board, but the shop where I ordered it was wrong, I received 8.12, 32 and 14.25 wb.. I said to myself "Fuck it madness, I love Real, and normally all the boards work with my indy forged hollows" THIS IS THE CASE!! If it can help people get out of madness... I'm really happy, I did my first session with this deck today, and it was perfect. Glad to finally no longer take into account lengths or wb.

When you think about it... It's only small millimeters of differences and when you think about it, it's stupid.. If we know how to do the tricks, we can do them with all boards.. But it's hard to reason when you're in hell.

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How dare you?

Ha yeah, even a couple of mm can be the best, or the worst for how a product feels, be it wheels, trucks, even deck, but hey, I am sure if someone ONLY had that option they could make it work, but as this is the madness thread, I would rather get rid of something I don't like the feel of and set up something better.

Speaking of those DLX 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb boards, I don't know how many I had of those over the 2007 to 2018 years, but it was a lot and that was all I skated for a long, long time, mostly on Indy 139s but then tried Indy 144s when they came out in 2017, which was a welcome change up.  Still got half a dozen completes of those old setups too, but I have moved on to bigger and wider boards now, but that size and shape was great back then as an all rounder for everything.

Such good memories when ever I see a black eagle, or set up something similar for someone.

[Xen]

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I was supposed to have a Real Deck 8.12, 31.3 and 14 wb board, but the shop where I ordered it was wrong, I received 8.12, 32 and 14.25 wb.. I said to myself "Fuck it madness, I love Real, and normally all the boards work with my indy forged hollows" THIS IS THE CASE!! If it can help people get out of madness... I'm really happy, I did my first session with this deck today, and it was perfect. Glad to finally no longer take into account lengths or wb.

When you think about it... It's only small millimeters of differences and when you think about it, it's stupid.. If we know how to do the tricks, we can do them with all boards.. But it's hard to reason when you're in hell.

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How dare you?

lol, right? Sacrilège!

[Too Frank To Fred]

2024 was a year of gear experimentation for me, particularly wheels. I never learn. Testing the waters with different product can send you down worm holes  and then you have shoe boxes full of shit sitting not being used. Since it's nearly the official end of summer, I'm donating a bunch of gear to a non-profit today to cleanse my soul.

Just had to get that off my chest.