Venture 2020

[Uncle Flea]

Not sure if anyone was interested in my ovaled pivots, but I’m fairly confident that recently I was doing way too many slappy crooked grinds on a metal ledge, and it wasn’t a fault with the baseplate. To test my idea, I tossed these old forged independent trucks on my bloard and spent a couple sessions blasting them into the ledge. Sure enough, they started ovaling on my heel side, too. The indy’s are older, but they seemed to start ovaling out faster than the ventures (or maybe it just seemed that way because I was looking for it). As seen here:



So I don’t think it’s a reflection on venture, and I figure I should just be more gentle and ollie into grinds that pinch from now on, or just accept the consequences of slappy life and give up on trucks that don’t wobble.

I say fuck it. If it happens to all trucks are they actually broken?
Also smashing your trucks into things is way too fun to stop.

Id like to see if you can do it to all brands and how long it takes for each. That'd be kinda sick.

Maybe you should report your findings to the suits in China and try to get more products for further r and d.

Respect for the science on two trucks too. Shits a pretty sick result.

[Mbrimson88]

Crossposting from the questions that don’t deserve their own thread thread (probably made more sense here):

Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!

I usually stock up on the DLX pivot cups, which might be marketed as Thunder pivot cups, but they come loose in whatever quantity you want, so could be more a generic type but they seem to work in any trucks I have needed to put them in, mainly Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They are just plain black, fit snugly and seem to hold well for as long as is needed, so I would imagine it is down to certain shops as to what they get in and how they sell them.

Some of the other brands that have the blister pack or the hang sell card with stapled bag end up being more than twice the cost for the same number of pivot cups, so when I find them, I get a few at a time, here in AU.


Not sure if Indy still have boxes of 20 or so, but they used to be good as well and seem like they are almost the same product, maybe generic pivot cups they all get and then box them up or bag them as needed.



Edit:

As per the other thread, best answer:

Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607

[munchbox]

How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main

id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it

[PatrickSkateman]

I’m guessing Ventures aren’t Ermico anymore. Bought a pair today and they were made in Mexico.

[Nth syd bear]

Expand Quote

How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main

[close]

id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it

I put three washers together and it was about 0.125' on my tape measure

[rocklobster]

I’ve used indy pivot cups in ventures and they fit reasonably well. They weren’t perfectly flush, but they worked.

Indy pivot cups or just buy a bag of 100 from AliExpress, been using the unbranded ones on a bunch of trucks and zero problems.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main

[close]

id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it

I have tried and even with five washers on the inside and nuts reversed / turned around on trucks that were 5.6 (144s), just to get a bit of nyloc to hold, it still doesn't quite add up to the extra width on 5.8 (149s) trucks.

It was interesting to see though and I could feel a little more difference, but I usually have three washers on the inside of everything anyway, that is three washers on the inside of each wheel, just the nut on the outside which sits fairly snugly on the end of the axle on any normal truck from Indy, Thunder or Venture.  Ace trucks can fit one or even two more on each as they have longer axles than normal, with the nut still fitting on as usual.


Edit:

Should have added:

In total it is about 5 mm, so 2.5 mm on each axle to make an 8.25" as wide as the 8.5" axle, so depending on the width of washers, about seven or eight to make the wheels even with my other 8.5" trucks, which then means the nut barely fits on, even when reversed, when I tried, just to see if it could be done.

Still easy enough to put a few extra on, then skate it and see how that feels, if it is at all different from where you had them before.

How many washers on the inside do you usually have?

[Murge]

@Mbrimson88  on my 5.8s I use for my main I just have one on each side of the wheel.

Also thank you and the other pals for helping me. Watching my son and it was easier to throw a Hail Mary pass to the pals than to mess with it with trial and error while watching him.