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Anyone know if LRG is coming back? I’ve seen a few people (Chico, Kelly Hart, Karl I think) wearing some LRG gear recently. I’m slightly intrigued, there’s some potential for some good pants.

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i want to believe, but i'm more inclined to say it's deadstock/ebay/etc. after reading something about a dude who hooks people up with older skate gear from the people they are sponsored by, i wouldn't put it past those three to have access to that type of thing.
still...hoping for a revival

Hmm, both Kelly and Karl tagged LRG in their bio. Chico also tagged LRG in a recent post. So they could be revamping the skate program, it seems possible.

[LebowskisRug]

Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

[twic3]

We've been stuck in the early 2000s revival for awhile, now were slowing moving into the 2010s revival.

Lets bring Quicksilver and Volcom Stone back. 

[iw0]

then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

dark times for a lot of brands

[manysnakes]

People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

I think they mean that the truck has an increased ability to lean to one side or another due to the leverage of a taller truck.

[Candied cigarettes]

Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.

[rocklobster]

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Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.

Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.

[Mbrimson88]

People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

I feel like a lot of people ride wider boards with narrow trucks, so this combination on almost any truck is going to feel more tippy, but more so on taller trucks than lower trucks.

The Venture low 8" trucks on an 8.25" deck I have set up for a laugh at the indoor park just cannot go over, but two other setups on similar 8.25" or so width deck and 8" truck definitely feel like they will tip over way more easily.  All trucks are more solid medium on those boards too, compared to my usual riders of 8.5" with 149s and medium loose trucks.

Maybe most of those trucks on boards that tip over are not quite as wide as some other boards that are way more stable for any brand of truck, but I know with my size 11 / 12 feet, anything under 8.125 really felt way more likely to go over regardless of what trucks were on it, but the bigger boards with proportionate trucks are a lot more stable.

That tighter narrow truck on a wider board combination seems like it would always tip over way more easily, but that is just me.

[FuzzGNU]

Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.

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Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.

the shovel nose on the P2 is kinda extreme

you'll find similar to Quasi stuff in WKND and GX1000 catalogs

the shovel scale is kinda like this
(only considering the square shapes here. keep in mind WKND has some standard shapes too)

Real FULL < Quasi=GX1000=WKND < Habitat < Hockey=FA < Polar P2

other brands pressed at PS Stix have some squarish shapes too (Snack, Pizza)

if you want more specific infos (WB, nose and tail steepness, concave) check the woodshop thread

[Woodshop]

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Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.

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the shovel nose on the P2 is kinda extreme

you'll find similar to Quasi stuff in WKND and GX1000 catalogs

the shovel scale is kinda like this
(only considering the square shapes here. keep in mind WKND has some standard shapes too)

Real FULL < Quasi=GX1000=WKND < Habitat < Hockey=FA < Polar P2

other brands pressed at PS Stix have some squarish shapes too (Snack, Pizza)

if you want more specific infos (WB, nose and tail steepness, concave) check the woodshop thread

Not sure if wheelbase and overall length are of importance too, but they definitely make a difference in riding them.


I have a Baker B2 board which is interesting as well (squared nose and tail shape) and about the same wheelbase as the Real Full SE.  It is not as long as the Alien Workshop / Habitat decks, which have short wheelbases and very long kicks, but a little longer than the Real Full SE board when comparing them.

All are still a touch longer than FA / Hockey - shorter wheelbase and length, which are a touch longer than the PS Stix boards as well - GX1000, Quasi, WKND, etc.

[beandemon]

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Anybody else have their inboard speed ring work its way into the face of the hanger or otherwise develop burrs?  Mine get all effed up and start making the bearings feel misaligned - way before even the midpoint of the trucks or wheels lifespan.

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Seems rather unique, but that in itself doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone else.

Checking you mean the washer on the axles between hanger and bearing?

What trucks are you riding and do you have any play in the wheel or none at all?


I could understand if the axle nut was done up super tight and the hanger was a softer metal causing it to push inwards, but to me there would need to be significantly more force than just a human tightening the axle nut.

Maybe try running two washers on the inside?

I usually have three washers on the inside and none on the outside of every wheel with a little play, sometimes even four on the inside of Ace trucks as their axles are longer, which brings the wheel out more and sits better over the axle nut, but that is just me.

Curious to hear more.

yeah, the little washer.  it's happened on the last 3 sets of trucks I've put any time on: venture, indy, tracker. I run spacers and have less play than most.  I think the play may be the culprit, as I used to strive for zero, but felt some less-than-perfect wheels worked better with a little slop.  Thought about it some, and it kind of makes sense - If you feel a fresh speed ring, there's a rounded side and a sharp square side.  I always put the rounded side against the bearing.  With a little play and a lot of repetition, the aluminum, and to a less extent the washer itself, are going to give, as both are softer than the bearing.

[rawbertson.]

is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?

[LebowskisRug]

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Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.

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Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.

Not a single skater I know from that era including myself are interested in eS, LRG, or a lot of brands that rightfully died. Seeing what happened to Zoo was painful enough I don't need to be reminded of a tragedy.

[yourbreakfsat]

is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?

Helps a lot with grabbing your board as you can wrap your fingers around the rails for a very secure grab. If your deck has a certain graphic you like, it can help protect most of the graphic depending on how you set them up.

[iw0]

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Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.

[close]

Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.

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Not a single skater I know from that era including myself are interested in eS, LRG, or a lot of brands that rightfully died. Seeing what happened to Zoo was painful enough I don't need to be reminded of a tragedy.

lol yeah it's more 'nostalgia sells' and younger gens have the interest. i did say i want a revival of LRG but it's more to see what the output would be not to rock it.

[SlapMcKracken]

You think those Reebok classics are skateable?

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4466984_-classic-leather-women-intense-black-reebok.html

[Mbrimson88]

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is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?

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Helps a lot with grabbing your board as you can wrap your fingers around the rails for a very secure grab. If your deck has a certain graphic you like, it can help protect most of the graphic depending on how you set them up.

It also lowers the center contact considerably, so it is a lot easier to get into a slide, be it boardslide or lipslide on a curb, ledge or any edge with less wheel contact than a board without rails.

I know a couple of guys who skate rails on everything and their boards feel a bit dangerous to me on those things, mainly because I am used to having a bit more grip with no rails, but they sure can slide a whole lot more on everything with them, including normal curbs with platform / no double side options.

[j....soy.....]

On transition, especially pool coping.  What if all your friends are riding rails……how do you feel?

[SlapMcKracken]

Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?

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Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?

Why not just get some skate shoes?

[SlapMcKracken]

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Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?

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Why not just get some skate shoes?

Already have those

[munchbox]

for the love of ankles, dont skate gel lyte 3s
ive rolled my shits walking in them carelessly

[manysnakes]

You think those Reebok classics are skateable?

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4466984_-classic-leather-women-intense-black-reebok.html

There is no way I am clicking through the captcha to find out which sneakers these are, but I have a homie who sometimes skates in the classic flat solved Reeboks and says they're great.

[GBLange]

We've been stuck in the early 2000s revival for awhile, now were slowing moving into the 2010s revival.

Lets bring Quicksilver and Volcom Stone back.

and Ocean Pacific, Billabong, Maui & Sons..Jimmy'Z..Gotcha Streetwear

[j....soy.....]

I had to buy a skate pack recently and Volcom was the best option….

Saw this today…

[realbasedgod112]

People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

I guess more height means more potential turning for the truck, and on super tight trucks the board would be likely to just 'tip' at a steeper angle.

[Mbrimson88]

On transition, especially pool coping.  What if all your friends are riding rails……how do you feel?

Curious if this is just thinking out loud or an actual question, but I know standing on a platform with a group of others of similar age (40+ club), they are all padded up, setups almost always with rails and there is me feeling happy in my usual space, no pads, no rails, no worries.

Personal choice really, but rails just make my life harder nowdays.


* It could be almost 50 / 50 split between those I have never seen rail slide and those who just want to keep their old school graphics intact, but either way, at least they are still rolling.  That is all that matters.

[jimgrude]

Got a question about Mob grip.

Yesterday at the shop I was picking up a deck for an alternative setup and thought I might try Mob for the first time in ages, since it won't be on my main board. The shop guy brought out the roll of normal Mob and told me that recently, Mob's been really thick, and that the grit is weird. He then brought out the 10" roll of Mob and demonstrated how it was thinner, and that the grit seemed finer, yet higher quality.

What I remember not liking about Mob 15 years ago was how thick it was, and that it was grippier than necessary, so I kinda expected it to be this way, but the 10" inch roll got me confused. The shop guy acted as if the standard Mob had gotten shittier recently.

Any Mob-heads got a clue what he's on about?

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As a shop guy i can confirm classic MOB slightly changed to be thicker
I've heard they temporarily had to switch factories because of Covid