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Rear foot popping position
« on: February 22, 2022, 09:58:16 PM »
Iíve noticed some dudes use the tail, some the pocket, some seem to mix it up. Did you consciously decide where to put it or just end up there.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2022, 11:06:37 PM »
ur overthinking this

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2022, 11:44:45 PM »
Depends on the setup, the trick, how high you want to pop, and how much effort you want to put in

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2022, 12:58:08 AM »
I'm more of a pocket guy than tip/edge of the tail, but i've been experimenting with this on a couple of tricks.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2022, 01:24:09 AM »
Mostly pocket. Don't want my foot to touch the lava. Helps reduce flappy foot Ollie.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2022, 08:50:30 AM »
ur overthinking this

The thing is I never actually thought about this and donít when Iím skating, but Iím trying to improve my repertoire and it could be a useful strategy.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2022, 09:28:29 AM »
usually my rear foot ends up wherever for most tricks. the only trick that I tend to be more specific with rear foot positioning is back tails. I have been playing around with different positions for regular kickflips, but none have felt good or has improved my shitty technique.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2022, 09:50:21 AM »
When I used to skate ventures, I would put my foot alot more towards the edge.

With aces now, I'm always in the pocket

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2022, 10:26:09 AM »
usually my rear foot ends up wherever for most tricks. the only trick that I tend to be more specific with rear foot positioning is back tails. I have been playing around with different positions for regular kickflips, but none have felt good or has improved my shitty technique.

where? been trying to figure this out myself.


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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2022, 11:38:42 AM »
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usually my rear foot ends up wherever for most tricks. the only trick that I tend to be more specific with rear foot positioning is back tails. I have been playing around with different positions for regular kickflips, but none have felt good or has improved my shitty technique.
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where? been trying to figure this out myself.

I place mine flat on the tail slightly towards the pocket area. I angle my rear foot outward (think nollie kickflip but way less extreme). Basically I approach the ledge with my feet looking like a duck/clown and its been working for me lol

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2022, 02:44:37 PM »
My back tail setup that has worked really well is to put my front foot right behind the front bolts at a slight angle and rear foot moderately towards the toe side but not as much scoop as a back 180. Turn towards the ledge slightly before popping then at the last second scoop and pop while almost turning away from the ledge. Winds the hips up nice.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2022, 04:06:08 PM »
Depends on the setup, the trick, how high you want to pop, and how much effort you want to put in

This. You don't really realize until you start playing around with it how much you can change by sliding your foot a few millimeters or changing the angle.

I would say for me it depends on the board more than anything. I tend to kind of play around with it a little until I find the sweet spot. I used to crouch on the tip like a gargoyle but generally with most boards I'm down the tail a good ways now.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2022, 10:57:18 PM »
I think it's more depended on the trick or how you do it.

But yeah if you wanna buy the new trucks or board then i accept your reasoning

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2022, 11:15:12 AM »
On transition, feet should match but if I want to do something on flat I'm trying to use the middle of the tail more.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2022, 07:57:14 AM »
After years of being a pocket guy on most of my tricks (mostly conditioned by my appreciation of steep banks and transitions), I recently started putting my back foot more on the edge of tail and unlocked almost instantly some long-time abandoned flip tricks as well as getting up easier on ledge.

I guess I have to thank this thread for this because for 20 years, I never really thought much of my back foot placement because It kinda worked most of the time and solely focused on adjusting the flick of the front one.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2022, 08:54:43 AM »
Somewhere along the line I developed some pretty bad flap foot. I saw some footage from a long time ago and I had a pretty respectable glue-footed ollie. I am not sure where the flap came from... but maybe this thread will help.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2022, 09:48:23 AM »
Somewhere along the line I developed some pretty bad flap foot. I saw some footage from a long time ago and I had a pretty respectable glue-footed ollie. I am not sure where the flap came from... but maybe this thread will help.

Same, in that now I got some flap. I used to be able to ollie high, but never well. Meaning my technique was always bad, but I could jump high. Now I cannot jump high.
I think a problem, one of many for me, is diminishing flexibility, particularly in the hips. Itís all in the hips. I cannot do the hacky sack motion with the back foot that is used by many glue footers.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2022, 03:24:51 PM »
tip of the tail if i need to pop
toeside pocket if i need to scoop
between the tip and toeside pocket, kind of, if i need to flip more. (this is more apparent with nollie/switch flips, and also adds to the stability.)
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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2022, 07:57:52 AM »
Thinking about it is your problem. Never look at popping foot just go based off feel.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2022, 11:52:49 AM »
tip of the tail if i need to pop
toeside pocket if i need to scoop
between the tip and toeside pocket, kind of, if i need to flip more. (this is more apparent with nollie/switch flips, and also adds to the stability.)
pretty much this for me.
slight heelside pocket for front shoves.
never understood how people can fully use heelside pocket for kickflips (Janoski, Malto, Ribeiro). like that MikeMo trick tip. shit happens too fast for me to control my flick :(

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2022, 06:51:48 PM »
Since reading this thread, I moved my foot from the tip up an inch or two into what I think you guys call ' the pocket' and its helped a lot of flap eradication. thanks! or maybe its just my crispy new deck.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2022, 09:02:58 PM »
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Somewhere along the line I developed some pretty bad flap foot. I saw some footage from a long time ago and I had a pretty respectable glue-footed ollie. I am not sure where the flap came from... but maybe this thread will help.
[close]

Same, in that now I got some flap. I used to be able to ollie high, but never well. Meaning my technique was always bad, but I could jump high. Now I cannot jump high.
I think a problem, one of many for me, is diminishing flexibility, particularly in the hips. Itís all in the hips. I cannot do the hacky sack motion with the back foot that is used by many glue footers.

My hips were essentially frozen for 2 years due to 15+years of ignoring certain injuries and getting hemmed in one particular activity up as a result. this is what I did/do to fix it-

supine butterfly pose (suptabadakonasana) will help with medial hip flexion and is really chill if you put pillows under the knees. sitting up, put soles of feet together in front of you, knees will flop somewhere toward the floor, pop some pillows or supports under the knees, come down to forearms eventually onto your back. make sure legs are supported and this isn't a straining active groin stretch. lay on back for 10 minutes or longer. the supported, long held stretch allows the body to get further away from fight or flight state that it's generally in. so while the stretch isn't feeling particularly deep, the mind/heart rate gets to slow down. when this happens, deep inside the muscles heavy relaxation can begin. It's particularly prevalent in the legs/hips as they're what control propulsion, and regardless of whether we know it or need it, we've evolved to be in a state of READY-GO propulsion. thankfully, we have no need to be on alert and run from tigers all the time. Still, in contemporary living, this aspect of human physical evolution causes all sorts of issues when not utilized through activity and then also allowed to relax. That's my plug for deep, passive, supported, restorative stretching of the hips/lumbar region  ;)

also, something that happens with hip flexion is tension in the lumbar spine, muscular or fascia, so practicing a yoga pose like Triangle, where you're shifting your hip from side to side while keeping the legs straight and feet glued to the floor can be super helpful in waking things up.

sit on the floor as often as possible, crossed legged, switching the cross of you legs. it's simple and does the real work.

it's kinda silly, but dance and jump around, shake your hips to wake things up.
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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2022, 05:16:52 PM »
Interesting...

I thought I was pretty much the only dude popping most of the tricks with the back foot at the tip, and always wondered if it was a bad habit. The 'pros' usuallly stay in the pocket, and while its harder to pop I think it's better to stay 'over the board' during the trick.

tip of the tail if i need to pop
toeside pocket if i need to scoop
between the tip and toeside pocket, kind of, if i need to flip more. (this is more apparent with nollie/switch flips, and also adds to the stability.)
Pretty much the same.


Mostly pocket. Don't want my foot to touch the lava.
I used to crouch on the tip like a gargoyle
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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2022, 08:57:51 PM »
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Somewhere along the line I developed some pretty bad flap foot. I saw some footage from a long time ago and I had a pretty respectable glue-footed ollie. I am not sure where the flap came from... but maybe this thread will help.
[close]

Same, in that now I got some flap. I used to be able to ollie high, but never well. Meaning my technique was always bad, but I could jump high. Now I cannot jump high.
I think a problem, one of many for me, is diminishing flexibility, particularly in the hips. Itís all in the hips. I cannot do the hacky sack motion with the back foot that is used by many glue footers.
[close]

My hips were essentially frozen for 2 years due to 15+years of ignoring certain injuries and getting hemmed in one particular activity up as a result. this is what I did/do to fix it-

supine butterfly pose (suptabadakonasana) will help with medial hip flexion and is really chill if you put pillows under the knees. sitting up, put soles of feet together in front of you, knees will flop somewhere toward the floor, pop some pillows or supports under the knees, come down to forearms eventually onto your back. make sure legs are supported and this isn't a straining active groin stretch. lay on back for 10 minutes or longer. the supported, long held stretch allows the body to get further away from fight or flight state that it's generally in. so while the stretch isn't feeling particularly deep, the mind/heart rate gets to slow down. when this happens, deep inside the muscles heavy relaxation can begin. It's particularly prevalent in the legs/hips as they're what control propulsion, and regardless of whether we know it or need it, we've evolved to be in a state of READY-GO propulsion. thankfully, we have no need to be on alert and run from tigers all the time. Still, in contemporary living, this aspect of human physical evolution causes all sorts of issues when not utilized through activity and then also allowed to relax. That's my plug for deep, passive, supported, restorative stretching of the hips/lumbar region  ;)

also, something that happens with hip flexion is tension in the lumbar spine, muscular or fascia, so practicing a yoga pose like Triangle, where you're shifting your hip from side to side while keeping the legs straight and feet glued to the floor can be super helpful in waking things up.

sit on the floor as often as possible, crossed legged, switching the cross of you legs. it's simple and does the real work.

it's kinda silly, but dance and jump around, shake your hips to wake things up.

This is so good. Thank you very much for taking the time.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2022, 01:14:49 PM »
Depends on the setup.   On a more mellow angled tail I move the foot more towards the pocket.  On a steeper setup, more towards the tip. 

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2022, 08:00:23 AM »
I found recently that my pop started sucking because I didn't have my foot on the edge enough. Now I barely think about it but to me "edge=quick pop" which is good.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2022, 06:51:02 PM »
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Somewhere along the line I developed some pretty bad flap foot. I saw some footage from a long time ago and I had a pretty respectable glue-footed ollie. I am not sure where the flap came from... but maybe this thread will help.
[close]

Same, in that now I got some flap. I used to be able to ollie high, but never well. Meaning my technique was always bad, but I could jump high. Now I cannot jump high.
I think a problem, one of many for me, is diminishing flexibility, particularly in the hips. Itís all in the hips. I cannot do the hacky sack motion with the back foot that is used by many glue footers.
[close]

My hips were essentially frozen for 2 years due to 15+years of ignoring certain injuries and getting hemmed in one particular activity up as a result. this is what I did/do to fix it-

supine butterfly pose (suptabadakonasana) will help with medial hip flexion and is really chill if you put pillows under the knees. sitting up, put soles of feet together in front of you, knees will flop somewhere toward the floor, pop some pillows or supports under the knees, come down to forearms eventually onto your back. make sure legs are supported and this isn't a straining active groin stretch. lay on back for 10 minutes or longer. the supported, long held stretch allows the body to get further away from fight or flight state that it's generally in. so while the stretch isn't feeling particularly deep, the mind/heart rate gets to slow down. when this happens, deep inside the muscles heavy relaxation can begin. It's particularly prevalent in the legs/hips as they're what control propulsion, and regardless of whether we know it or need it, we've evolved to be in a state of READY-GO propulsion. thankfully, we have no need to be on alert and run from tigers all the time. Still, in contemporary living, this aspect of human physical evolution causes all sorts of issues when not utilized through activity and then also allowed to relax. That's my plug for deep, passive, supported, restorative stretching of the hips/lumbar region  ;)

also, something that happens with hip flexion is tension in the lumbar spine, muscular or fascia, so practicing a yoga pose like Triangle, where you're shifting your hip from side to side while keeping the legs straight and feet glued to the floor can be super helpful in waking things up.

sit on the floor as often as possible, crossed legged, switching the cross of you legs. it's simple and does the real work.

it's kinda silly, but dance and jump around, shake your hips to wake things up.
I wish I could gnar all this. I just wanted to mention to anyone who, like me, struggles to find the mental calm to achieve this: weed can help. Like a whole lot. I can get way deeper core, glute, etc stretches. Makes me more comfortable p-poppin in front of my wife to loosen up my hips.

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Re: Rear foot popping position
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