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Re: Shogo Zama - MAGENTAPES
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2022, 06:01:25 PM »
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So much piss in that Jimmy Lannon part. Like every clip, just piss.
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not seen many florida videos huh

It not just Florida. Seen it in DC, LA, or anywhere that is really sunny. I donít know if itís bad white balance or what but the yellow tone detracts from the quality of the footage so much that itís unwatchable to me. Jimmy has dope style tho.

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Re: Shogo Zama - MAGENTAPES
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2022, 06:27:59 PM »
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So much piss in that Jimmy Lannon part. Like every clip, just piss.
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not seen many florida videos huh
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It not just Florida. Seen it in DC, LA, or anywhere that is really sunny. I donít know if itís bad white balance or what but the yellow tone detracts from the quality of the footage so much that itís unwatchable to me. Jimmy has dope style tho.

It's when filmers white balance off blue sky instead of pure white to give the footage some tint, stylistically that can work but is usually and arguably best kept to less extreme degrees. People do it everywhere and while I reckon anywhere really sunny is bound to result in something excessive, to some people it's a style they consciously pursue (maybe due to living around spots they're convinced would otherwise look plain?). That joke I read as on Florida in particular because it does seem like there is a particular abundance of Floridian filmers who are or have always been into it to the point where it starts feeling traditional. Wouldn't be surprised if some even bumped up the contrast in post to make the aesthetic more prominent and stuff.

Personally I'm not opposed to some tint if it works with the spot but draw the line as soon as it starts washing out the natural colors - I think colder tones should also belong to the picture otherwise you lose a dimension, in fact 'blue tint' footage the type of which people normally get when they just got their first camera and haven't figured out manual settings yet I find pretty cool and can be interesting, also much less explored. I think there's room to show the gloomy in skating. But it's probably all just a case of part of a matter-of-taste thing meets part of a simple-is-best thing.

Now I'm also legitimately wondering how conscious it is a choice for most filmers who do it. Seems like the kind of gimmick that honestly feels cool and stylish at first when you're getting interesting results but then is easy to overdo without realizing until it escalates to the point where someone calls you out for it (been there myself before with orange/red tint).

Leo's part is a good example of the kind of VX colors I like right now. The contrast maybe very slightly bumped up in post, but mostly natural and so it's a more relatable balance of everything that sticks out.

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Re: Shogo Zama - MAGENTAPES
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2022, 06:34:37 PM »
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So much piss in that Jimmy Lannon part. Like every clip, just piss.
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not seen many florida videos huh
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It not just Florida. Seen it in DC, LA, or anywhere that is really sunny. I donít know if itís bad white balance or what but the yellow tone detracts from the quality of the footage so much that itís unwatchable to me. Jimmy has dope style tho.
Itís just people bumping the white balance to be more red/yellow because they think it looks good. I personally donít agree though.

As silhouette mentioned some people white balance off the blue sky. In addition to this, anyone who knows how to use a vx1000 will likely adjust the white balance/color temperature in the custom presets menu of the camera. And some people will just bump it all the way to the right to make things look extra yellow. Iíve talked to filmers who think this successfully makes all footage appear to be shot at golden hour but I strongly disagree. Genuine golden hour colors that look good can only really be captured naturally. Otherwise you just end up with ďthe Florida lookĒ. To each their own I guess.
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Re: Shogo Zama - MAGENTAPES
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2022, 06:42:05 PM »
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So much piss in that Jimmy Lannon part. Like every clip, just piss.
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not seen many florida videos huh
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It not just Florida. Seen it in DC, LA, or anywhere that is really sunny. I donít know if itís bad white balance or what but the yellow tone detracts from the quality of the footage so much that itís unwatchable to me. Jimmy has dope style tho.
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It's when filmers white balance off blue sky instead of pure white to give the footage some tint, stylistically that can work but is usually and arguably best kept to less extreme degrees. People do it everywhere and while I reckon anywhere really sunny is bound to result in something excessive, to some people it's a style they consciously pursue (maybe due to living around spots they're convinced would otherwise look plain?). That joke I read as on Florida in particular because it does seem like there is a particular abundance of Floridian filmers who are or have always been into it to the point where it starts feeling traditional. Wouldn't be surprised if some even bumped up the contrast in post to make the aesthetic more prominent and stuff.

Personally I'm not opposed to some tint if it works with the spot but draw the line as soon as it starts washing out the natural colors - I think colder tones should also belong to the picture otherwise you lose a dimension, in fact 'blue tint' footage the type of which people normally get when they just got their first camera and haven't figured out manual settings yet I find pretty cool and can be interesting, also much less explored. I think there's room to show the gloomy in skating. But it's probably all just a case of part of a matter-of-taste thing meets part of a simple-is-best thing.

Now I'm also legitimately wondering how conscious it is a choice for most filmers who do it. Seems like the kind of gimmick that honestly feels cool and stylish at first when you're getting interesting results but then is easy to overdo without realizing until it escalates to the point where someone calls you out for it (been there myself before with orange/red tint).

Leo's part is a good example of the kind of VX colors I like right now. The contrast maybe very slightly bumped up in post, but mostly natural and so it's a more relatable balance of everything that sticks out.

I was joking a bit, but I've heard it referred to as the "florida balance" a lot.
Also I have heard that the red chip is the most dominant of the 3 in color intensity from the VX1000. From playing with colors over the years it seems to have the richest image when balancing warmer.

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Re: Shogo Zama - MAGENTAPES
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2022, 06:50:20 PM »

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2022, 08:37:41 PM »
Is magenta the polar opposite of primitive on the skate team spectrum?

Leo valls is Andy Anderson but cool
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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2022, 09:34:23 PM »
What's with Floridians and tigers? Or is this just a coincidence

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2022, 07:26:03 AM »
Glad Iím not the only one to notice. I remember the terrible ďwhite balance off the sky to get those golden VX colorzĒ era

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2022, 07:39:02 AM »
Damn Iím here waiting to see what maestro Ruben came up with.

Is Hugo Maillard gonna be in this?
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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2022, 09:57:34 AM »
i never realized it was as blatant as white balancing off of blue sky.

as someone that edits photos for a living that yellow piss balance does get on my nerves but not enough to distract from new jimmy lannon footage
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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2022, 10:42:11 AM »

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2022, 10:42:48 AM »
Damn Iím here waiting to see what maestro Ruben came up with.

Is Hugo Maillard gonna be in this?
Damn I almost forgot Hugo was on! Sure hope he pops up in this. Love his first Magenta part

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSo78zS30nw

Edit: that Soy/Vivien/Ruben part was excellent. Short but sweet. Iíll never get tired of watching Soy do lines

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2022, 12:46:12 PM »
Place dropped this interview with Vivien alongside their part, too: https://place.tv/place-magentapes/

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2022, 10:59:23 AM »
Place dropped this interview with Vivien alongside their part, too: https://place.tv/place-magentapes/
sick! thanks sihouette! Do you know if the full video with all the parts will be up?



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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2022, 08:02:55 PM »
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Place dropped this interview with Vivien alongside their part, too: https://place.tv/place-magentapes/
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sick! thanks sihouette! Do you know if the full video with all the parts will be up?

I have no idea. For now it looks like they've most been trying to work with the whole network of skate media which I think is pretty sick and I wish more companies did out of respect for the culture. But I suspect they will put it up in full eventually, unless they're making DVD's (which they haven't done in a while and I miss, for instance I think it's pretty sick how Soleil Levant is still mostly DVD only to this day). I could just ask, but one could also just DM Vivien or Soy directly with no need for me as an intermediary - they would appreciate the interest.

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2022, 08:23:17 PM »
i wonder how much footy casey foley and morgan campbell got for this video


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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2022, 02:21:28 AM »
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Place dropped this interview with Vivien alongside their part, too: https://place.tv/place-magentapes/
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sick! thanks sihouette! Do you know if the full video with all the parts will be up?
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I have no idea. For now it looks like they've most been trying to work with the whole network of skate media which I think is pretty sick and I wish more companies did out of respect for the culture. But I suspect they will put it up in full eventually, unless they're making DVD's (which they haven't done in a while and I miss, for instance I think it's pretty sick how Soleil Levant is still mostly DVD only to this day). I could just ask, but one could also just DM Vivien or Soy directly with no need for me as an intermediary - they would appreciate the interest.


I asked for the DVDs.



And the SF section goes hard.
https://youtu.be/B6SCYVijJRI
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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2022, 07:39:05 AM »

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2022, 04:20:08 AM »

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2022, 01:18:40 PM »
havenīt watched the whole video yet but no hugo footage?  :-\
at least his name doesnīt pop up in the description....

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2022, 03:01:39 PM »
Glad they released the whole thing. Fuck Shogo has such a sick style. Him and Shin Sanbongi are my two favorites out of Japan right now. They make everything look effortless.

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2022, 09:42:50 PM »
Perfect style. So fluid. 
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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2022, 04:34:30 AM »

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Re: MAGENTAPES
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2022, 01:29:49 PM »
Gunes is so enjoyable to watch skate. Loved that quick footed Ollie to backside flip