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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2022, 01:42:03 PM »
Doing an 8.125 Snack with 149 Indy (since Nawrocki skates 8in/149) and it's working out great. Typically prefer 8.5+, but the 149's help a lot with control and confidence as opposed to 139 imo.

Interesting. Have you tried 144s with an 8 or 8.125 shape? And if so, would you prefer the 149 > 144

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2022, 06:01:00 AM »
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Doing an 8.125 Snack with 149 Indy (since Nawrocki skates 8in/149) and it's working out great. Typically prefer 8.5+, but the 149's help a lot with control and confidence as opposed to 139 imo.
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Interesting. Have you tried 144s with an 8 or 8.125 shape? And if so, would you prefer the 149 > 144

I have not and I prob never will just to avoid further gear madness (even though I have a set on ice). I will most likely not be keeping an around 8" in the rotation after this one. Prob just do 8.25/149 for my flippy stuff. Flips too fast for me with smaller trucks, also big slappy guy too and already use two washers on the insides of my axels on everything for more hanger.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2022, 09:58:47 PM »
Anyone try the 8.06 DLX shape (not the full se) with venture 5.2 low raws? Any opinions on that combo? I see some sales on Tactics that's pretty tempting

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2022, 12:14:06 AM »
Anyone try the 8.06 DLX shape (not the full se) with venture 5.2 low raws? Any opinions on that combo? I see some sales on Tactics that's pretty tempting

Yeah me. Loved it for everything except 360 flips

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2022, 12:33:30 AM »
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Anyone try the 8.06 DLX shape (not the full se) with venture 5.2 low raws? Any opinions on that combo? I see some sales on Tactics that's pretty tempting
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Yeah me. Loved it for everything except 360 flips

Why didn’t you like it for 360 flips? Too long?

Youness is another rider of 8” ish decks (and the venture lo’s).

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2022, 12:56:30 AM »
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Yeah me. Loved it for everything except 360 flips
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Why didn’t you like it for 360 flips? Too long?

Youness is another rider of 8” ish decks (and the venture lo’s).

So I pop down hard and have the board almost vertical before I scoop upwards and forwards if that makes sense.

I think it was the angle and length of the tail that I couldn't get enough power to get the board up like that.

I think the way I do them is kinda different to other people so maybe disregard my point.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2022, 12:58:33 AM »
Also can I say I'm a hockey 8" with Royal 139s at the moment and it's perfect but my mental illness wants to put hollow 5.2 v lows on it again.

Saw a pair for 80e in Barcelona so I might cop

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2022, 01:53:22 AM »
pre-covid i was an 8.25-ace 44 classic enthusiast but since i hit mid 30's plus feeling that some of my flat "staples" where getting harder, started to mess around with 8" again around the begining of 2020. Tried matching it with 8" trucks but eventually changed to to 44 AF1 + wheels on the thinner side and it got easier to flip the thing while beign as comfortable grinding as i was with bigger set ups.

Last three boards have been magenta's 8" wich got the sweet 14"wb/31.5" but tail-nose not being as full/"squarish" as the real full se (which also have treated me pretty well).
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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2022, 03:21:15 PM »
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Yeah me. Loved it for everything except 360 flips

I'm more into skating ledges than flipping my board so that works for me haha. So WB didn't feel too long or anything?

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2022, 03:26:24 PM »
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Yeah me. Loved it for everything except 360 flips
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I'm more into skating ledges than flipping my board so that works for me haha. So WB didn't feel too long or anything?

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2022, 02:49:42 PM »
Bumping this thread because I went back to my 8.13 Toy Machine and it’s just a lot more manageable than the 8.25s I’ve been riding for awhile.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2022, 03:18:14 PM »
Just set up a 8" resin 7 with Venture low hollow 5.2

Amazing combo. Just feels right. So easy
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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2022, 04:04:42 PM »
Any over 40 under 8’s?

44 here. Been on an 8 for a long time. Tried a friends 7.825 yesterday.. Felt so light. Might go down soon.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2022, 12:08:02 AM »
I wish I could go under 8.75 but just can't do it. I have had some bad ankle injuries that will haunt me for the rest of my life. I have this 8.5 deck that has been waiting to be skated for long time. I then tried getting used to it but I was struggling hard. When I jump on something like 8.75 to 9.25 everything just unlocks and feels so good. I will still always miss skating smaller boards.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2022, 05:45:57 AM »
I wish I could go under 8.75 but just can't do it. I have had some bad ankle injuries that will haunt me for the rest of my life. I have this 8.5 deck that has been waiting to be skated for long time. I then tried getting used to it but I was struggling hard. When I jump on something like 8.75 to 9.25 everything just unlocks and feels so good. I will still always miss skating smaller boards.

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To the other 3-4 of us on 8’s:
8” deck  (prefer ps. Prefer 14.25 wb, but don’t care, if it’s 8 it’ll work, weird eh)
8” trucks (5.2 venture lo’s)
50-52 wheels (spitfire f4 51s 99 and 52 conical fulls 101)
Mob
Swiss/quantum’s
Dunks

No madness (comparatively, for me)
I wouldn’t mind trying a bunch of different wheels, and a newer deck is always nice, but I have no urge to stray outside of this zone. I’m currently working a lot and rarely skate, which in the past has been a scenario where I spend a BUNCH of TIME and resources gathering parts. Now it feels like my best chance of skating ok in the hour or so I might get a week is best accomplished with just using the size of equipment I should have been skating my whole skate life. Who woulda thunk it.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2022, 05:48:32 AM »
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Any over 40 under 8’s?
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44 here. Been on an 8 for a long time. Tried a friends 7.825 yesterday.. Felt so light. Might go down soon.

Yeah, I'll be 42 in a month and I've been skating an 8". I did the super wide shit when I started getting back into skating heavily in my 30s, but now I'm back on a "regular" skateboard and it works just fine for everything I need.
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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2022, 07:00:27 AM »
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Any over 40 under 8’s?
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44 here. Been on an 8 for a long time. Tried a friends 7.825 yesterday.. Felt so light. Might go down soon.
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Yeah, I'll be 42 in a month and I've been skating an 8". I did the super wide shit when I started getting back into skating heavily in my 30s, but now I'm back on a "regular" skateboard and it works just fine for everything I need.

Mid 40s.
I’ve hopped on every skate trend (except for the Fidel hats. Clint can keep those, but realistically that was probably because I wasn’t skating much at that time and the stereo ‘vibe’ was never my thing. I was in my 30s wearing clothing from krew, skinny pants and faux leather jackets, so insane).
This shameless trend jumping was more than just terrible fashion choices. I also had to have the boards of the day. All kinds of cruisers and oddly shaped nonsense. All of that is fun, to whomever is into it, awesome.
A bunch of the gear madness for me is being influenced by rad skate media…tfunk had me wanting slipons and an 8.75. The more I unplug from that stuff, the more I go back to what just works for me, and my tired little attempts at skating. Just because some gnarly hill
Bomber guy skates a setup with f4 60s, and I want to bomb hills…well, me and my tiny 50s can go slow down the hill. What I’m trying to say is that, shockingly, I wasn’t able to purchase any skills or abilities, and different setups do not unlock anything.
8’s are sensible.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2022, 11:05:36 AM »
Honestly I floated around in the last 2 years with larger and smaller sizes trying to do something different than what I had as a kid.  The reality is for me an 8 inch deck on indy 139s is just much more controllable and predictable pop.  Even going back to what I typically skated as a kid (Alien/Habitat shapes) has helped a lot.  I still like having boards to carve on, but I honestly can't figure out how people are doing popped tricks on these huge boards (at least at my age-36).  I tried to go sub 8 as well-- while I can pop higher, just too risky ankle wise.  Agree with poster above that 8 is sensible.  Oddly while transition is "harder" feeling in a sense, I actually end up trying more new stuff on the 8 inch (despite it of course being less cruisy than a football shaped 8.5 for example-- at 9 forget about it-- my pop is in full scrape slow mo).  Anyone else still skate the habitat/alien 8? 

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2022, 05:23:35 PM »
The Alien/Habitat 8 is currently my favorite, and I'm on one right now. Have 3 or 4 others on ice too. But I did break my leg on this one lol.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2022, 08:22:45 AM »
The Alien/Habitat 8 is currently my favorite, and I'm on one right now. Have 3 or 4 others on ice too. But I did break my leg on this one lol.
Are most of the Alien/Habitat 8's usually 14.0 or 14.25" wb? I've seen them listed at several shops with 14.0, 14.25, and even 14.375. I'll probably end up trying the 8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0 shape

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2022, 08:33:45 AM »
I believe currently they are 14-- a while ago I saw some listed higher before but all the ones I've actually gotten (a variety of Habitat and alien "team" type decks) recently have been 14.  The bigger aliens are higher (for example the 8.75 believe)- I think the 14.25.  Im actually thinking about trying a 8.125 on 139s to see what that feels like, but likely will end up back at 8 ha.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2022, 08:36:41 AM »
I believe currently they are 14-- a while ago I saw some listed higher before but all the ones I've actually gotten (a variety of Habitat and alien "team" type decks) recently have been 14.  The bigger aliens are higher (for example the 8.75 believe)- I think the 14.25.  Im actually thinking about trying a 8.125 on 139s to see what that feels like, but likely will end up back at 8 ha.

Cool you skated them with Venture lows?
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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2022, 08:57:59 AM »
7.75 to 8 is the sweet spot for me.

I think it's a mistake that so many older guys think "I'm old, I need a big fat board with Indys w/risers and 55mm wheels now".
When you get older, no matter how in shape you are, you start losing your "explosiveness" from degradation of fast-twitch muscle fiber. It's unavoidable.
When you're in a decline of explosive energy, a tall, heavy setup may not be ideal.
Something low, light and responsive might work better than you think. 
Something to consider at least for anyone in the 35+ camp

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2022, 10:47:45 AM »
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I believe currently they are 14-- a while ago I saw some listed higher before but all the ones I've actually gotten (a variety of Habitat and alien "team" type decks) recently have been 14.  The bigger aliens are higher (for example the 8.75 believe)- I think the 14.25.  Im actually thinking about trying a 8.125 on 139s to see what that feels like, but likely will end up back at 8 ha.
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Cool you skated them with Venture lows?

This may blow minds, but I was on ventures for a bit (and mostly skated them as a kid), but now on Indy 139s.  The benefit to them for me is I can tighten them and be pretty stable (even with the small wheel base) or ride them slightly looser and still feel somewhat carvy even on an 8 in the park.  When I had the ventures on I had trouble skating park honestly.  That said the pop felt awesome with the ventures and more like the classic 90s feel.  Ive also tried them on mag lights and was okay, but I dont think I love mag lights.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2022, 10:51:35 AM »
7.75 to 8 is the sweet spot for me.

I think it's a mistake that so many older guys think "I'm old, I need a big fat board with Indys w/risers and 55mm wheels now".
When you get older, no matter how in shape you are, you start losing your "explosiveness" from degradation of fast-twitch muscle fiber. It's unavoidable.
When you're in a decline of explosive energy, a tall, heavy setup may not be ideal.
Something low, light and responsive might work better than you think. 
Something to consider at least for anyone in the 35+ camp

Agreed-- for this reason when I feel totally on, I feel like I can go way higher on 7.75s, but I just can't seem to convince my feet I can land a kick flip on a 7.75 anymore.  That said on a 8.5 like a lot are skating- I literally dont have the strength-- I can chuck the flick but I just can't jump high enough at the same time.   Its interesting because on a 8.5 I "feel" like it would be easier to kick flip, but I dont seem to be able to convince my body-- on a 8 it feels harder, but I have enough left in my muscles after the jump, pop, flick, to actually keep my shoulders straight and try to bend my knees and land.  Very odd-- I definitely for about a year fell for it and assumed I was just a cruiser/curb guy now, then went back down to 8 and immedatiately felt like I could do flatland again (albeit poorly).

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2022, 02:04:04 PM »
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Doing an 8.125 Snack with 149 Indy (since Nawrocki skates 8in/149) and it's working out great. Typically prefer 8.5+, but the 149's help a lot with control and confidence as opposed to 139 imo.
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Interesting. Have you tried 144s with an 8 or 8.125 shape? And if so, would you prefer the 149 > 144

I was considering trying 144's on 8/8.125 but am trying to stop the gear madness and switch to 139.  I've heard putting a bunch of washers in the 139s can have a similar effect without feeling like a boat, but curious what folks feel.  I've actually never skated 144s (had 8.25 sized aces, and have run 149s on 8-8.75 size while trying things out).  Curious if folks notice a real difference 144 on 8.125 versus 139-- maybe grids marginally easier but flipping harder?  Ultimately I think I should just stick with 139 as the timing of the pop feels like a 90s board even though the grind space does feel small.

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2022, 04:25:48 PM »
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The Alien/Habitat 8 is currently my favorite, and I'm on one right now. Have 3 or 4 others on ice too. But I did break my leg on this one lol.
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Are most of the Alien/Habitat 8's usually 14.0 or 14.25" wb? I've seen them listed at several shops with 14.0, 14.25, and even 14.375. I'll probably end up trying the 8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0 shape

Most of them are listed at 14.25 and only a few of the 8.0s are listed at 14. Oddly enough more of the 8.125s are listed at 14. I just went to measure them and realized I'm an idiot and don't actually know how they measure wheelbase. Is it from the bottoms of the drilled holes? Middle? Top?

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2022, 07:10:11 PM »
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Doing an 8.125 Snack with 149 Indy (since Nawrocki skates 8in/149) and it's working out great. Typically prefer 8.5+, but the 149's help a lot with control and confidence as opposed to 139 imo.
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Interesting. Have you tried 144s with an 8 or 8.125 shape? And if so, would you prefer the 149 > 144
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I was considering trying 144's on 8/8.125 but am trying to stop the gear madness and switch to 139.  I've heard putting a bunch of washers in the 139s can have a similar effect without feeling like a boat, but curious what folks feel.  I've actually never skated 144s (had 8.25 sized aces, and have run 149s on 8-8.75 size while trying things out).  Curious if folks notice a real difference 144 on 8.125 versus 139-- maybe grids marginally easier but flipping harder?  Ultimately I think I should just stick with 139 as the timing of the pop feels like a 90s board even though the grind space does feel small.

I mean…take what I say with a huge helping of salt, but I do not see the advantage to the wider truck. 139s  are excellent.
I’m really biased to 8” trucks tho

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2022, 09:58:11 PM »
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Doing an 8.125 Snack with 149 Indy (since Nawrocki skates 8in/149) and it's working out great. Typically prefer 8.5+, but the 149's help a lot with control and confidence as opposed to 139 imo.
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Interesting. Have you tried 144s with an 8 or 8.125 shape? And if so, would you prefer the 149 > 144
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I was considering trying 144's on 8/8.125 but am trying to stop the gear madness and switch to 139.  I've heard putting a bunch of washers in the 139s can have a similar effect without feeling like a boat, but curious what folks feel.  I've actually never skated 144s (had 8.25 sized aces, and have run 149s on 8-8.75 size while trying things out).  Curious if folks notice a real difference 144 on 8.125 versus 139-- maybe grids marginally easier but flipping harder?  Ultimately I think I should just stick with 139 as the timing of the pop feels like a 90s board even though the grind space does feel small.

Take what I say with an even bigger helping of salt because my truck madness likely borders on being a legitimate condition with a psychiatric diagnosis, but just stick with the 139s unless you really think you can take advantage of the extra grind space

Just stick with whatever trucks you have on hand. I've tried 139s and 144s on an 8.125 and the performance differences really are minimal to the point where it might be in my head

For me the biggest mental hurdle with 144s was just knowing my axles were wider than the board. I'm a headcase

If you have 139s on hand, try three washers on the inside of each wheel before spending money on the 144s. The four extra mm you'll get that way is approximately .125" so that will put you right in the middle of 139s and 144s

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Re: 8”s grrreat
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2022, 10:39:56 PM »
Went skating yesterday with a friend who hasn't been skating for almost 15 years.
I just started back skating in October '21, so I'm still relearning everything.

Since I picked up skateboarding again, it's in my head that the bigger the bigger the board the better.
So I ride a AH 8.5 with Indy 149 trucks. While not even close to landing anything, I'm already thinking about going to 8.75, just to have more landing space and to feel more " safe and secure" regarding that extra width to land on.

But I took my friends old element board yesterday, I think it's a 7.75 and it's ridiculously short, and it was like the deck was glued to my shoes. Proper Ollies up and over stuff, without hardly making an effort. The board did exactly what I wanted.

This got in my head, and now I'm thinking instead of going up in deck size, I need to size down.
Maybe I got brainwashed into thinking that everyone at least skates an 8.25 -8.5 deck...

Can't afford to buy myself a whole new setup right now, but might look out to score a deck somewhere that's 8" . 
I wonder if the 149 trucks will compensate for the loss of deck width when looking at stability...