The Indy Thread

[swongolianbbq]

Love my aces on my rain/winter/cruiser board as it's what I end up skating probably the most... Put hard bushings in my regular setup... Been skating conical fulls and radials... Love the turn but I lose some pop when I'm using the stock bushings, and I do be getting wheelbite sometimes...

Anyways I set up a baker 8.25 x 14.25 og mellow with Indy hollow cast 149s and 93a classic reynolds 54mm .. no BS with washers and nuts... No customization needed .. feels super familiar and nostalgic and I can't wait to rip it. I think if I had to choose one setup forever (ala blister gear review 1-ski quiver articles) I would choose blazer mids, jessup, baker og 8.25, Indy 149's, bones rings, spitfire classic 54's. I'm 35. I tried the conical fulls and aces, and you know what? I fuckin love crooking shitty ledges. Back to Indys and classics 🤷‍♀️

[franc]

Anyways I set up a baker 8.25 x 14.25 og mellow with Indy hollow cast 149s

Have you tried skating a 8.25 with 144s? If yes, what makes the 149s more fitting? Thanks.

[JM]

It’s should be stickied somewhere that ACE af1 pivot cups are thicker and does fix/improve the loose pivot issue common with 144s and some forged plates. They are a hair taller, but not enough where I had any issue with them tearing. They’re also cheaper than riptides.

I know this is old… but hell yes.

Will get some next squeaky set of trucks I get.

Thanks.

[BeachChicken]

Interesting, I find Radials on Indy 144 and 8.38 locks into grinds great

[swongolianbbq]

I didn't have any trouble with locking in and I love aces, I think it's just the massive familiarity cause I've been on Indys most my life. It's easier cause it's what I'm used to. The sharper edge on conical fulls and the deeper pinch on aces vs the rounded edge on classics and the less-deep pinch on indys

I don't like 144's, I tried them when they came out and went back to 149's. Been on 149's for almost 20 years

144s were too light, too "tippy", didn't look proportionate to me, idk it was weird

149s on a 8.25 lines the wheels up real nice

I think the turn starts being appreciated/noticed starting at 8.5 and up

If I don't like the Indys I might just skate AF1's w risers, but I still don't like that I have to replace the stupid rethreader axle nuts and add extra axle washers and put harder bushings in/at least switch the top bushings to hards, etc. I didn't have to do shit with these new indys I just like, set em up.

[Nth syd bear]

I didn't have any trouble with locking in and I love aces, I think it's just the massive familiarity cause I've been on Indys most my life. It's easier cause it's what I'm used to. The sharper edge on conical fulls and the deeper pinch on aces vs the rounded edge on classics and the less-deep pinch on indys

I don't like 144's, I tried them when they came out and went back to 149's. Been on 149's for almost 20 years

144s were too light, too "tippy", didn't look proportionate to me, idk it was weird

149s on a 8.25 lines the wheels up real nice

I think the turn starts being appreciated/noticed starting at 8.5 and up

If I don't like the Indys I might just skate AF1's w risers, but I still don't like that I have to replace the stupid rethreader axle nuts and add extra axle washers and put harder bushings in/at least switch the top bushings to hards, etc. I didn't have to do shit with these new indys I just like, set em up.

149 Indys are great,  with indy/ace i think the opposite . I switched to aces mainly because with indy's I had to change bushings take out a washer , wax everything that squeaks..    Ace's I can just run stock, maybe tighten a little that's it..

I still love indys and consider them the standard when comparing any trucks

[BeachChicken]

Swapping bushings isn't a big deal. I swap to the blues and run them flush instead of oranges with more threads showing and that's about it. I run 3 washers inside on 144 and it looks fine on 8.38

[rikki]

Has anyone been riding forged Indys for a long while and then switched to standards? How's the experience? These days I prefer wheels in the 55-56mm zone as I love to go fast. I ride everything from curbs and ledges to transition and miniramps. Not thinking the Standards would necessarily be a cure for anything -- just wondering how they would feel. Subjective rants welcome.

[BeachChicken]

I actually only rode Forged on and off for several years after getting back into skating, tried cast, and since then I've rarely enjoyed forged. Its hard to describe but cast give me better pop, yet the pop still has some lightness to it.

[spacial_profiling]

Has anyone been riding forged Indys for a long while and then switched to standards? How's the experience? These days I prefer wheels in the 55-56mm zone as I love to go fast. I ride everything from curbs and ledges to transition and miniramps. Not thinking the Standards would necessarily be a cure for anything -- just wondering how they would feel. Subjective rants welcome.

Standard hollow happy medium imo. Gives the height which you can bring down with smaller wheels and isn’t a significant jump in weight as the standard would be. Or tuff it out on standard and make the call from there. About the pop being better on standard, I’d saying only for ollies, otherwise I always feel I can get my flicks higher with the lighter forged trucks which in a way feel more responsive to me, since they’re shorter. So standard hollow is cool to give the best of all worlds or at least looks good on paper enough that I don’t question it.

[MetalAnkleMan]

Has anyone been riding forged Indys for a long while and then switched to standards? How's the experience? These days I prefer wheels in the 55-56mm zone as I love to go fast. I ride everything from curbs and ledges to transition and miniramps. Not thinking the Standards would necessarily be a cure for anything -- just wondering how they would feel. Subjective rants welcome.

I switched from Thunders to Indys and started out with Forged, skated it for like a year and it just felt off, switched to standard hollows (cast baseplates) and never looked back. Indy forged makes my skateboard feel like a toy, it just doesnt feel solid in a way I want my board to feel. I also learned I like the height of cast 55mm. To me it seems easier to get onto higher ledges/rails with a higher set up. I dont think I would ever skate forge again

[rikki]

Thanks for the input pals, feels like I wanna give cast Indys a try.

[swongolianbbq]

 I guess my muscle memory and stuff is just way too adapted to Indys, cause after 3 years on AF1s I switched back to Indys and hardflips, kickflips, and frontside flips are all way easier 🤷‍♀️

[FrenchSkater]

I read a lot of recent positive opinions on indy on this post, like they are trucks that forget Madness.. And it's true. I have been skating Forged Hollows in 139 with 8.125, for 1 year and 2 months, and maybe in 1 year, I was almost ready to buy this or that other brand, because to me, they look better for this or that for such tricks, or because I see skaters riding certain trucks so I want to buy that. (Example, I almost bought Thunder 148s or Ventures lows..), but EVERY TIME, the indys cure me. I realize the perfect comfort, the perfect height, and above all that over the past year, I have had sessions  and managed to find tricks that I had lost for a long time. I want to stay on them every time, every hesitation. Maybe it wouldn't be the same with the cast, but the Forged Hollows are perfect. I feel like they have a set in terms of feel of all the truck brands. I have the impression that royals trucks do this too, but still once, my forged hollows don't make me want to leave them haha (I had already testified about it, but, let me say it again, with the longevity of use, and to help those who constantly ask questions  )

[BeachChicken]

I have a theory that Indy's always feel good on almost every deck because most decks are designed to work with them since they dominate the market and for a long time in the 00's/10's they had a massive team and flow network.

[Obijuan91]

Idk about every deck. Indy casts on steep decks are rough.

[swongolianbbq]

Ya, Indy casts on say, a Santa cruz, is guaranteed ghost pop nollieflips for me. I switched to ace because I was middle aged but mainly cause ghost pop. Turns out I still had ghost pop sooo can't blame the gear sometimes

[BeachChicken]

Super steep I think is rough on every truck for me but Thunders with smaller wheels. So I blame that not on a truck choice but that I just don't like steep decks. In the range I like I've found that with Indy's there's just some adjustments I have to make and it's not perfect but I can get through the deck until the next one.

If anything gear madness has taught me to be a lot better about selecting decks from the local based on kick steepness not solely on graphic or brand since my shapes are used by tons of brands.

[diplodocus]

What wheelbase do you guys like on Indys? I’m on 14.125 and it’s not bad. I’d like to try 14.25 maybe even 14.38

[FrenchSkater]

What wheelbase do you guys like on Indys? I’m on 14.125 and it’s not bad. I’d like to try 14.25 maybe even 14.38

Personally after several experiences (with only indy forged hollows), I find that the magic of indy is to adapt to all wheelbases ! I got 14, 14.1 and 14.38, and everything worked 

I just bought a very short Real Deck (31.3 and 14 wb) in 8.12, I can't wait to try it !

[Dwyck]

I'm a 6'2" 14.5er but had a wonderful stint on a 14.3 a few years ago. I've always been a heelflipper but I locked down kickflips at the ripe old age of 24 on it. Currently in the quiver I have have a 14.25 with aces on it that feels a little like a toy because of how "in " the wheelbase is. But indys do good on shorter wb imo. their effective wb is only what, a quarter inch shorter than dlx trucks, right?

[spacial_profiling]

I'm a 6'2" 14.5er but had a wonderful stint on a 14.3 a few years ago. I've always been a heelflipper but I locked down kickflips at the ripe old age of 24 on it. Currently in the quiver I have have a 14.25 with aces on it that feels a little like a toy because of how "in " the wheelbase is. But indys do good on shorter wb imo. their effective wb is only what, a quarter inch shorter than dlx trucks, right?

Something like that. I’d also say their effective WB is more the industry standard due to historicity. Hey FYI same on dialing kf at 24 after many interactions. Heelflip been crispy since day 1 lol.

[Xen]

Ya, Indy casts on say, a Santa cruz, is guaranteed ghost pop nollieflips for me. I switched to ace because I was middle aged but mainly cause ghost pop. Turns out I still had ghost pop sooo can't blame the gear sometimes

Well considering most SC riders are on Indys......

[swongolianbbq]

I know, for me it's crazy like

So steep

You can get used to anything tho

[Obijuan91]

Sc on indys does feel wild, especially on a 14” wb. It’s a struggle to kickflip it. Indy’s on a 14” wb primitive tho is on point.

[BALARGUE]

I have a pair of 139 lows with no bushings laying around.
They are brand new and discontinued. Might have some value.

But i can't find any Indy Low bushings online.

Do you guys know what are the dims ?

Can I find a correct replacement in other brands catalogs ?

[guru_s satoris]

I have a pair of 139 lows with no bushings laying around.
They are brand new and discontinued. Might have some value.

But i can't find any Indy Low bushings online.

Do you guys know what are the dims ?

Can I find a correct replacement in other brands catalogs ?

Af1 low hard bushings could work. Top is 10mm, bottom is 12mm. The Af1 regular hard tops can be used as bottoms for conical

[Mbrimson88]

I have a pair of 139 lows with no bushings laying around.
They are brand new and discontinued. Might have some value.

But i can't find any Indy Low bushings online.

Do you guys know what are the dims ?

Can I find a correct replacement in other brands catalogs ?

Bushing chart with info here if anyone needs it:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg3874036#msg3874036


Indy stock 90a and aftermarket (same in both cylinder and conical) 78a, 88a, 90a, 92a, 94a, 96a
Total  23.5 mm
Top  10.5 mm
Bottom  13 mm

Then Indy low head bushings 92a
Total  21 mm
Top  8 mm
Bottom  13 mm


I have a set still, with stock bushings in them, check through pics for the stock vs low bushing to see what they look like.  Mainly lower kingpin and low top, still the same bottom.

I also have a lot of the special "low top" bushings in aftermarket sets, new in packs, but to get one set from Australia to Europe would most likely not be worth it, but the offer is there.  I use the low bushings in most of my boards, because I angle grind the kingpins down about two to three threads and they fit just right for me.

Even in older or other people's usual setups, I have used the stock bushings and then sanded them down on grip tape to get them to that low head height, when I have had to machine down the kingpin to get more clearance from well used trucks, so that does the same thing.  Taking off the bottom side of the top bushing, to be precise.

What I have found is when people tighten their trucks right down a long way, it compresses the bushings, especially the top, a whole lot so you could even just try stock Indy bushings and try squashing the top down to get the kingpin nut on, which I tried and just worked well enough with this set.  I have some stock orange bushings here that are about 5 mm top and still 12.5 mm bottoms, which fit really well in trucks with lower kingpins - sure they look a little flat, but they cleaned up well and would be good to put in those sort of low trucks, if even just for display.

When I think about low trucks, I don't think about turn at all, so most of those things were pretty tight and had almost zero turn anyway, but that is just what I have in old low trucks and what I have seen on other boards with low trucks, for the most part.

Frames 4, 5 and 6 for the low trucks, in particular.


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