Bad Trick Selection? Specific examples from video parts?

[Tear Up a Trick]

I often read the phrase "I like his trick selection" or "that skater has good trick selection."

What is bad trick selection?

Is it:

1) "of course he was going to that trick at the end of that line, how boring"?

2) "I hate that trick anyway so anyone who selects to do that trick is making a bad trick selection"

3) illegal tricks? (seems like different topic)

4) a trick that doesn't "go with" the previous / next trick, or that is incongruous with the line or spot or even skater?

5) somethin' else?

Please elucidate, and if possible please link examples from specific video parts that show a bad trick selection, thanks

[somefucker]

crook nollie flip is the flatground kickflip of pro video parts.

much rather watch a 50-50 on a wacky obstacle.

also just style in general matters, so a whole part of objectively hard/good tricks could be ass if your style is whack.

see below.

[doublesteveburger]

predictable tricks in a video parts are almost on par with gross circus tricks as far as entertainment value for me



almost

[rocklobster]

I like Stevie but the line at 1:07 stood out as way too basic for him, looks like he wanted to go for a 4th trick in the line

[Prostate Exam]

As hard as the shit is he does, I just can't stand the tricks Jaime Mateu is doing



Especially the slob plant to fakie on the picknick table is horrendous. The white trucks / red wheels don't help either


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On a different note: Is the dolphin flip Cody Mac does in the opening line of his Smoke&Mirrors part considered a violation?
Also the BS nosegrind nollie 360 shuv in this part is blatant!

[Blind Fisherman]

As hard as the shit is he does, I just can't stand the tricks Jaime Mateu is doing



Especially the slob plant to fakie on the picknick table is horrendous. The white trucks / red wheels don't help either


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On a different note: Is the dolphin flip Cody Mac does in the opening line of his Smoke&Mirrors part considered a violation?
Also the BS nosegrind nollie 360 shuv in this part is blatant!

Anything involving Cody Mac is a violation.

[Sick_McCrank_]

I’d rather watch a part of circus tricks than a part with the basic cool tricks over and over that have been done 1000 times by 1000 dudes on 1000 spots.

 Skateboarding should be about doing creative shit on absurd obstacles imo and not about who can do the cleanest kf backtail on a basic ledge. If you wanna stand out doing basic stuff super clean you better be insanely stylish with great filming and a epic song. But then the skating itself is only like 1/3 of the magic.

It also becomes some Olympic ice skating jockery and has nothing to do with the spirit of doing whatever you want on your board, see skatepark kids and contest skater…

On a final note: Spot selection is as important as trick selection.

Also I like Cody mcentire. Prefer him over dudes like prod who do the same shit their whole career. These dudes have no soul and might aswell be soccer players.

[notmikerusczyk]

[Prostate Exam]

I’d rather watch a part of circus tricks than a part with the basic cool tricks over and over that have been done 1000 times by 1000 dudes on 1000 spots.

You can execute circus tricks in a cool and soulful way such as Donovan Rice or John Morgan. But if you use them as a crutch it gets problematic.

[Sick_McCrank_]

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I’d rather watch a part of circus tricks than a part with the basic cool tricks over and over that have been done 1000 times by 1000 dudes on 1000 spots.

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You can execute circus tricks in a cool and soulful way such as Donovan Rice or John Morgan. But if you use them as a crutch it gets problematic.

Agree.
Best way to use circus tricks is to do a good looking one as a surprise between some more basic stuff. Tricks should be aesthetically pleasing of course. 360 hardflips for example is a tricks that’s circus AND ugly. Dolphin flips on the other hand I find pleasing.

[Frank and Fred]

 John Morgan.

Seaside John?

He makes the wackiest shit look really good.

[Style Police]

Huge Guy fan, but he had some gross ass clips in Pretty Sweet.

[rawbertson.]

i would say if you just look at the tricks that penny, reynolds, gino do, you are in the realm of good trick selection. as much as i love darkslides and front willys when done by the right people, that is not what I would consider good trick selection. most pros could not make those tricks look good.

It is also a bit of preference - i really like people who have regular heelflips and double flips as part of their arsenal cause i really like doing tohse tricks for example. so i will say "love that guys trick selection" in those instances too.

[rawbertson.]

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Huge Guy fan, but he had some gross ass clips in Pretty Sweet.

Pretty Sweet was like the pinnacle of the "NBD Ender" era. so mcuh emphasis put onto getting these never before seen tricks etc especially in those later TWS vids. it just got silly after awhile. a lot of those tricks were gross. i dont know if hardflip back noseblunt can ever look good... 

[doublesteveburger]

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I’d rather watch a part of circus tricks than a part with the basic cool tricks over and over that have been done 1000 times by 1000 dudes on 1000 spots.

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You can execute circus tricks in a cool and soulful way such as Donovan Rice or John Morgan. But if you use them as a crutch it gets problematic.

[close]

Agree.
Best way to use circus tricks is to do a good looking one as a surprise between some more basic stuff. Tricks should be aesthetically pleasing of course. 360 hardflips for example is a tricks that’s circus AND ugly. Dolphin flips on the other hand I find pleasing.

CJ Tamborino made the worst tricks, in theory, look so fucking fun

RIP

[Mean salto]

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Huge Guy fan, but he had some gross ass clips in Pretty Sweet.

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Pretty Sweet was like the pinnacle of the "NBD Ender" era. so mcuh emphasis put onto getting these never before seen tricks etc especially in those later TWS vids. it just got silly after awhile. a lot of those tricks were gross. i dont know if hardflip back noseblunt can ever look good...

I think Mariano just had to get it out his system right after pretty sweet he toned it down a fair bit part starts at 1:50

[Cuban_Lynx]

This whole part is disgusting

[Tear Up a Trick]

Re: the Cody Mcintire line above, the dolphin flip is way more interesting than the kickflip on flat, do you disagree?

[Sick_McCrank_]

Without these lipslides on ledges the part would be good imo. Idk why he does them all the time. Can’t stand them 

[Mike Oxwelling]

Anytime a dolphin, pineapple, kiwi, feather etc flip  is recorded god kills a kitten. 

[oak leaf]

idk i think its like that dumb joke…

trick selection is like pizza- when its good its great and when its bad its still alright


meaning when someone has good trick selection it stands out, but not having good trick selection is different from having actively bad trick selection (and i think thats rare)

[notmikerusczyk]

i think the hip tricks beginning at 2:22 are examples of tricks that should be terrible but ended up looking good. cory was good at that. could also be nostalgia talkin

[OldSkater]

I’d rather watch a part of circus tricks than a part with the basic cool tricks over and over that have been done 1000 times by 1000 dudes on 1000 spots.

 

this right here

[work_lurker]

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Huge Guy fan, but he had some gross ass clips in Pretty Sweet.

That nosegrab over the rail in the line (1:07) was questionable

[funeral_tuxedo]

Van Wastell is an example of an unusual trick selection merging with a skater's style and it all just working out. Some skaters can do varial flips and some can't.

[keepthefunkalive]

For starters... if an unusual trick is caught, it can look good. If they just land on the board it usually looks disgusting.

[exlurker]

Stephen Lawyer has ruined many otherwise great clips by throwing in a body varial out. Still like him though

[my english is bad]

Jeffwong Song
 

[big_kev_215]

This whole part is disgusting

That’s just a rough era in general aesthetically.  Slightly slim fitting stretch denim jeans with baggy t-shirts and shoes that are somewhat puffy by today’s standards with goofy argyle patterns on them .  Non-silver, sometimes neon colored trucks.  Lazerflips.  Grizzly grip.

[rocklobster]

Van Wastell is an example of an unusual trick selection merging with a skater's style and it all just working out. Some skaters can do varian flips and some can't.

I maintain to this day Van influenced the modern use of body varials and 50-50 BS 180 out.