Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.

[roastbeef]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

You are saying your opinion was what they based on how they would release these? I think not. I actually love bones wheels. I think they feel better than spitfires.

More likely why they powell released these was because they do not fit into the categories that Bones has right now (STF, SPF, ATF,), and this new formula is a different formula. It doesnt fit neatly whereas Powell has a variety of wheels and most of them fall into the "other category" type wheels. Or maybe George is just proud of this formula and wants them under his own name for starters. I'm sure Bones will get this formula at some point if they do well.

[jamersonbass]

honestly it probably has a lot to do with the fact that the bones are their money
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Would gnar if I could.

[j....soy.....]

I can’t wait to see a remarketed/redesigned mini logo truck to bring this place to its knees………

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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honestly it probably has a lot to do with the fact that the bones are their money

God dammit lol

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I can’t wait to see a remarketed/redesigned mini logo truck to bring this place to its knees………

I'm so excited for this. If those crazy ass Minilogo RKP trucks are good, this board is going nuclear

[j....soy.....]

In magnesium….skateboarding will never be the same.

The dragonskins were just as disruptive in the longboard scene two years ago…..

[CrumblingInfrastructure]

In magnesium….skateboarding will never be the same.

The dragonskins were just as disruptive in the longboard scene two years ago…..

Truly the lamb skin condom of the longboarding wheel world.

[igrindtwinkies]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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You are saying your opinion was what they based on how they would release these? I think not. I actually love bones wheels. I think they feel better than spitfires.

I think it's pretty obvious what I meant.  No, I didn't literally mean my personal opinion is what they made the decision on.  You would be the first person I've ever heard/seen say anything positive about Bones wheels in my entire life.

That being said, I bought a box of the prototypes and finally got around to trying them out today.  They completely ate up red rock concrete and rolled over pebbles with ease.  They seemed to grip pretty hard on masonite, but otherwise they slid pretty good.  Idk how much of the performance is owed to them being 56 mm compared to my old f4's which are pretty worn down.

I'm a convert for now.  It's so crusty here that shit like this is a real game changer.  I can imagine it being great for stairs with cracks right in front of the set as well.  If you live somewhere that has a nice smooth skatepark, I would probably stick with F4's and have a second setup with dragon's on for hitting street spots.  Tomorrow, I will give these a more in depth test, it rained a bit today so I was a little limited in what I could try.

[GauchoAmigo]

sml. has been making something like the dragon formula for awhile, I'm super in Mike Arnold so remembered he was riding them.

I've tried a couple sets the sml 92a (I think they're called the Succulents) and they're pretty sick. If anyone want's the same kinda vibe but doesn't want bones maybe try the sml's?

I've been riding a set of these for so long and they rule because I live on the east coast where streets aren't too smooth. But personally I cannot get them to slide much at all, which is why I'm considering these Powells...but maybe wait for the 95a?

[pizzafliptofakie]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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honestly it probably has a lot to do with the fact that the bones are their money

Your name's Billy too?

[GardenSkater77]

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sml. has been making something like the dragon formula for awhile, I'm super in Mike Arnold so remembered he was riding them.

I've tried a couple sets the sml 92a (I think they're called the Succulents) and they're pretty sick. If anyone want's the same kinda vibe but doesn't want bones maybe try the sml's?

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I've been riding a set of these for so long and they rule because I live on the east coast where streets aren't too smooth. But personally I cannot get them to slide much at all, which is why I'm considering these Powells...but maybe wait for the 95a?

I had the sml wheels and they are similar to the Powell wheels in ground contact feel. If you want more communication with the ground I would wait for the 95a or 97a. I think the Powell wheels are faster though, but it’s really hard to say. They are not that different…

[natenola forever]

Just got mine in yesterday, did a quick test this morning and they're really good, super fast, better on rough ground, and I had no problem sliding on the rough ass ledges at this spot. There's a quick power slide in there and they sound like Bones wheels to me, so far I'm really into them. These are the 52mm's.

[rawbertson.]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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You are saying your opinion was what they based on how they would release these? I think not. I actually love bones wheels. I think they feel better than spitfires.

More likely why they powell released these was because they do not fit into the categories that Bones has right now (STF, SPF, ATF,), and this new formula is a different formula. It doesnt fit neatly whereas Powell has a variety of wheels and most of them fall into the "other category" type wheels. Or maybe George is just proud of this formula and wants them under his own name for starters. I'm sure Bones will get this formula at some point if they do well.

i didnt know ATF were still a thing. in my mind, these were just a re-branded ATF. i am pretty sure that is what people who tested them early on were saying they were going to be like as well.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Just got mine in yesterday, did a quick test this morning and they're really good, super fast, better on rough ground, and I had no problem sliding on the rough ass ledges at this spot. There's a quick power slide in there and they sound like Bones wheels to me, so far I'm really into them. These are the 52mm's.

that ledge looks fun as hell

[Freelancevagrant]

I have literally nothing constructive to say because I will always ride spits… That being said, I would maybe consider potentially buying a pair if they didn’t have such a stupid fucking name.

[Texas_Tone]

I have literally nothing constructive to say because I will always ride spits… That being said, I would maybe consider potentially buying a pair if they didn’t have such a stupid fucking name.

Right?

[pizzafliptofakie]

according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

[BartHarleyJarvis]

according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

&& CONSTANTLY has phones and cameras pointed at him, and no one thought to have him NOT cut the promo in vertical??

[fakie nollie]

according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

Already bought them but now I’m double sold. Gold bless && and the big brain marketing at Powell

[arrbee]

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according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

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&& CONSTANTLY has phones and cameras pointed at him podcast appearances, and no one thought to have him NOT cut the promo in vertical get him a "dollar shave club" subscription??

Fixed

[therealnod]

according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

"you're probably gonna want to have a pair of these in your backpa"
I can't help but wonder why the person that edited this chopped off the end of the sentence on every cut. Is it an artistic statement?

[Ghost Face]

according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

Love how the last clip has no audio so you can't hear that screech.

[dunc]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

Apparently word on  the rough streets is that these wheels are marketed to the old cunts that remember Powell when it was cool. Old bastards have cash and are now a large percentage of the skate market. Old bones, sore muscles, fat wallets and nostalgia help sell soft wheels. These formulas will creep into the bones line up eventually. 

[Steely Daniel]

I'll probably buy a set soon. I am an old kook who enjoys some && / Powell team. Also, my town and local park are just all crust rough ground so that's probably a better reason to check them out. I have never tried Spitfires either though so I should probably try the f4 out too... I never cared about wheels when I was younger. As long as they were hard and below 53 mm it was cool. Now I want 55-56 with a bit of give.

I might be a bit younger than the demographic they are marketing to but my first board was a Powell slick in the mid-'90s and I'm getting old enough that I'll buy into some hype that will help keep my soon to be old ass skating. Powell certainly wasn't cool when I started skating so I'm going to stick with the same clueless mindset that got me here in the first place.

Kind of want to wait for the higher durometer though

[Goodcurbs]

I have literally nothing constructive to say because I will always ride spits… That being said, I would maybe consider potentially buying a pair if they didn’t have such a stupid fucking name.

It's dragon formula. Dragons spit fire. They are made with dragon blood, which is a lot harder to find than children's blood used in formula 4s and they actually do spit fire.

[Goodcurbs]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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Apparently word on  the rough streets is that these wheels are marketed to the old cunts that remember Powell when it was cool. Old bastards have cash and are now a large percentage of the skate market. Old bones, sore muscles, fat wallets and nostalgia help sell soft wheels. These formulas will creep into the bones line up eventually.

Accurate

[Groondor the Orc]

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according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

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"you're probably gonna want to have a pair of these in your backpa"
I can't help but wonder why the person that edited this chopped off the end of the sentence on every cut. Is it an artistic statement?

A pair?

[Ghost Face]

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according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

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"you're probably gonna want to have a pair of these in your backpa"
I can't help but wonder why the person that edited this chopped off the end of the sentence on every cut. Is it an artistic statement?

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A pair?

Yeah, just in case you get weather and want to get some manuals done.

[Mean salto]

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why do you think these were marketed as Powell wheels and not Bones? Are they meant to be sold to an older crowd? Did Powell do wheels at all before? seemed like they always watned to keep Powell as the Board company and Bones as the wheel company, seems odd they decided to cannabalize now

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My opinion on Bones wheels was pretty low and would have been pretty hard to convince me to ever buy a set again.  I'm guessing that's why they released these under Powell.

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Apparently word on  the rough streets is that these wheels are marketed to the old cunts that remember Powell when it was cool. Old bastards have cash and are now a large percentage of the skate market. Old bones, sore muscles, fat wallets and nostalgia help sell soft wheels. These formulas will creep into the bones line up eventually.

Imagine already being part of the dorkiest kind of skateboarder and then going Pinacle dweeb and being into Powell instead of Santa Cruz/oj/slimeballs

[therealnod]

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according to Powell, these wheels are great if you "live anywhere that gets weather".

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"you're probably gonna want to have a pair of these in your backpa"
I can't help but wonder why the person that edited this chopped off the end of the sentence on every cut. Is it an artistic statement?

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A pair?

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Yeah, just in case you get weather and want to get some manuals do.

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