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Suede vs leather vs superstars
« on: August 21, 2022, 01:34:05 PM »
I think I can skate suedes best. What about you? You feel a difference?


I think my flip tricks suffer when skating superstars. I love thme, but not for skating somehow. Will give them a few more sessions.

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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2022, 09:52:22 PM »
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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2022, 11:50:12 PM »
I've skated leather and suede Tyshawns back to back and back again, and they all felt identical.

However I can say that the toe on the leather ones lasts a bit longer...so durability wise there's a difference for sure.

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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 02:14:00 PM »
I have found with “rubber” capped shoes. Jack Purcell’s, chuck Taylor’s etc.   they eventually get to a really good place.  It’s takes a bit but once you arrive, they are special.   

So much so that I when mine hit the sweet spot I’ll usually put them away for when it’s time to get a clip.   Knowing they are in “ always ready” mode. 

Outside of this.  Suede rules in my book. 
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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2022, 03:34:25 AM »
Just started skating the superstars again. Strange flick.
Maybe it needs more time, I don’t know.

But what I wonder; shouldn’t every material still flick the same when using shoo goo anyway?


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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2022, 04:11:15 AM »
I ride Busenitzes but can only do the suede ones. I once had a leather one and it really hurt my feet and was so stiff I would slam very hard on primos because the ankle would not bend and instead I got pitched to the ground.

I skated Superstars in the 90s and now have the Kader Superstars on ice but haven‘t skated them yet. I don‘t like what I read in this thread re flick tbh.
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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2022, 04:30:09 AM »
My last pair of skating shoes were Kader Superstars and as wary as I was about the shell toe before giving them a go, I actually ended up really liking those. Stronger and grippier material around the toes felt like it would help give tension to my flicks, and they tanked frequent skating very well for no less than six months (I just retired them for a pair of Noras but had been skating in them since June). Still felt strong all the way till the end too, impact support was starting to go but the shoe never started feeling loose or less sturdy and in fact I was surprised seeing holes form both on the side and outsole on my last session in them - they felt like they still had life left in them otherwise.

Now the Noras feel great too, just the flicks feel different again, but after those six months in Superstars switching to anything else was bound to feel like skating in socks for a session or two. Personally though, I do miss that grip, I think it's practical at least for how I skate.

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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2022, 05:48:31 AM »
My last pair of skating shoes were Kader Superstars and as wary as I was about the shell toe before giving them a go, I actually ended up really liking those. Stronger and grippier material around the toes felt like it would help give tension to my flicks, and they tanked frequent skating very well for no less than six months (I just retired them for a pair of Noras but had been skating in them since June). Still felt strong all the way till the end too, impact support was starting to go but the shoe never started feeling loose or less sturdy and in fact I was surprised seeing holes form both on the side and outsole on my last session in them - they felt like they still had life left in them otherwise.

Now the Noras feel great too, just the flicks feel different again, but after those six months in Superstars switching to anything else was bound to feel like skating in socks for a session or two. Personally though, I do miss that grip, I think it's practical at least for how I skate.

Merci, that sounds promising.
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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2022, 09:02:00 AM »
I can only skate in things that once blinked.  Cow, pig, alligator, and so on.
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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2023, 11:19:36 PM »
Superstar flick takes a while to develop (longer than most skate shoes) but once it does it is extremely consistent and reliable, not to mention durable.

I always loved how superstar toecaps also dont really look worn-down untill you really get a flick groove going after months. Makes them look gangsta

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Re: Suede vs leather vs superstars
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2023, 03:50:55 AM »
Superstar flick takes a while to develop (longer than most skate shoes) but once it does it is extremely consistent and reliable, not to mention durable.

I always loved how superstar toecaps also dont really look worn-down untill you really get a flick groove going after months. Makes them look gangsta

True. I still skate mine and it’s great now.
Took a few sessions though.

What I don’t get is that I shoo goo‘d then right away, shouldn’t that normally just make the flick like every other shoo goo‘d shoe? Somehow it didn’t and still took some time.