The Indy Thread

[Frank and Fred]

Ace are based off Stage 3 geo but don't have the same shape.

[manysnakes]

Ace did v up/beef up the wings for better support but who knows how much that changed the geo?

Yeah, and I’m wondering if that’s not the same thing Independent did when they moved from Stage III to Stage IV. I guess we will know soon enough.

[Xen]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=123519.0

Someone buy my stage 7 & 8 Indy's please

Not a lot of info out there; Jensen article notes tweaks, pinched plate/reinforcement etc. but that’s it up to SIV.

I’d image all geo is tweaked a bit no matter what they say...how much CAD was going on back then I wonder? Especially for trucks?

[tzhangdox]

So are these new indys gonna be in wider sizes only or also 149s etc

[Xen]

So are these new indys gonna be in wider sizes only or also 149s etc

I thought there was a post saying no 149s? Or maybe starting at 149? Def 159 and up.

[spacial_profiling]

Those new Indy’s look like the cut down 215’s Danny Dicola does. Esp since the ends of the hangers look flat and not tapered.

[j....soy.....]

It would be sick to see stage 11 215’s….you’d like have to melt down a Toyota to make a set…

[FGO925]

Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

[LebowskisRug]

Most ride the standard height/cast plate Indy's. Ave rides forged as did a few others. You can tell because forged plates are shiny and thinner and often stay shiny and don't precisely match the cast hangers. Indy has a playlist on their YouTube channel where they talk to pros about their trucks.

[Xen]

Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

Most [team members] ride standards, free trucks are usually the cheapest trucks (I'm sure people like Hawk, etc., get to req hollows or ti.

Hollows are usually forged (53.5mm) so lower than standards (55mm).

[WideFeet]

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Really hoping that new Indy comes in 151 that been previous rumored. I usually ride 8.375, and that size truck would be perfect.

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You a hotrod kinda guy? I run 149/144 on 8.38. I suppose a 151 would be THAT extreme though. I just lean towards magic carpet/flush than hotrod. sometimes i look at 149s on 8.38 and it makes me want to put the 144's back on haha. i love that hanger space though.

Sure, if that’s what it’s considered. Before Indy made 144’s, I was skating 149’s on an 8.25 and I loved the stability and never noticed my trucks sticking out. We’re only talking about an 1/8” inch more on each side. I figure a 151 truck (8.6) would be perfect for 8.375.

[Crabby_Bastard]

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Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

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Most [team members] ride standards, free trucks are usually the cheapest trucks (I'm sure people like Hawk, etc., get to req hollows or ti.

Hollows are usually forged (53.5mm) so lower than standards (55mm).

The Indy team riders I know can get whichever trucks are available at the time.

[manysnakes]

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Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

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Most [team members] ride standards, free trucks are usually the cheapest trucks (I'm sure people like Hawk, etc., get to req hollows or ti.

Hollows are usually forged (53.5mm) so lower than standards (55mm).

I remember Peter Hewitt asking on Instagram for a pair of 159 titaniums, so apparently Indy isn’t even giving those out very freely.

[LebowskisRug]

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Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

[close]

Most [team members] ride standards, free trucks are usually the cheapest trucks (I'm sure people like Hawk, etc., get to req hollows or ti.

Hollows are usually forged (53.5mm) so lower than standards (55mm).

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The Indy team riders I know can get whichever trucks are available at the time.

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It seems like a lot just don't care. Start explaining the differences and their face just glazes over and they go with what they know.

Riding "plain old stock Indy's" meaning standard cast is like it's a point of pride. Been told many a times that if pros stopped being pros that's what they would 100% ride. Definitely a weird flex. Especially since most pros still get what they used to ride for free in a lot of cases.

[j....soy.....]

I’m much more advanced….I would pay not to ride most trucks…

[Crabby_Bastard]

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Does most of the Indy team ride hollows or standards?

I know the hollows have the higher ride height/clearance for bigger wheels.

But I feel like the standard Indy’s are pretty damn heavy

[close]

Most [team members] ride standards, free trucks are usually the cheapest trucks (I'm sure people like Hawk, etc., get to req hollows or ti.

Hollows are usually forged (53.5mm) so lower than standards (55mm).

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I remember Peter Hewitt asking on Instagram for a pair of 159 titaniums, so apparently Indy isn’t even giving those out very freely.

There have been intermittent shortages of the titaniums over the last couple years.

[rob]

I’m much more advanced….I would pay not to ride most trucks…

Ahaha hypothetically what trucks would those be?

[IpathCats]

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I’m much more advanced….I would pay not to ride most trucks…

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Ahaha hypothetically what trucks would those be?

You couldnt pay me to ride krux, grind king, silver, destructo maybe?

[Mbrimson88]

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It is definitely a personal thing.

Truck choice really does depend on how you skate and what you like to do.  I have boards with lots of trucks, more than anything just to be able to let people skate them and see what the trucks are like, but most I can skate well enough on whatever setups they are on, be it Thunder, Venture, Ace, Destructo, Theeve, or any of the other brands.

Indy just ticks all the boxes for me, all the sizes I need for whatever boards I want to ride, tall enough with bigger wheels, turns great for how I like my boards to feel, good kingpin clearance, even more after I angle grind down the kingpins a couple of threads, etc.


Speaking of that, someone sent me this a while back and I had saved it (sorry I forgot if anyone had posted it before too).

Reynolds had someone machine down his kingpins a couple of threads and it looks very well done.

[Murge]

Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tel with the photo.

[Mbrimson88]

Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tel with the photo.

I think they were just stock bushings, so cylinders / barrels, but could be wrong.

Never really got into any pro or other skaters setups in such fine detail, but could be more just the angle and distortion that is making them look more conical in shape.

My conical bushings have a way smaller bottom washer or sit in a lot more if I was running the bigger washer too, just comparing my own board here.

[Xen]

Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tell with the photo.

Super hard to tell by that photo...

More importantly, what makes you shave down your kingpin on standard indys?

[manysnakes]

That’s particularly hilarious since they make a Reynolds Mid Hollow.

[Mbrimson88]

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Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tell with the photo.

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Super hard to tell by that photo...

More importantly, what makes you shave down your kingpin on standard indys?

Pure madness?

Ha well maybe, but with my stack of the low head bushings or other people who tighten trucks down on stock bushings, especially when they compress down a bit, so up to three threads showing on the back truck and maybe one or two on the front, it was at first just something to do to check clearance (especially on worn to axle trucks) but then I started doing it to most of my setups when the bushings were nicely worn in and they sit lower than any inverted kingpin with better clearance, as well as easy to change if needed and don't have to mess with taking the kingpin out or other issues.

More than anything it was just an experiment that is easy enough to do and definitely works for every truck I have done it to, either to get more clearance or to prolong the life of an truck that was grinding on kingpin when worn down.

[LebowskisRug]

This is an old photo. I DM'ed him and he responded. He finds the stock bushings too loose. He didn't like grinding on the kingpin so that's why they grinned it. His Mids came with blacks so he could run black aftermarkets. I went through his gram and he also ran blues and when you see his trucks they're cranked.

[Xen]

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Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tell with the photo.

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Super hard to tell by that photo...

More importantly, what makes you shave down your kingpin on standard indys?

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Pure madness?

Ha well maybe, but with my stack of the low head bushings or other people who tighten trucks down on stock bushings, especially when they compress down a bit, so up to three threads showing on the back truck and maybe one or two on the front, it was at first just something to do to check clearance (especially on worn to axle trucks) but then I started doing it to most of my setups when the bushings were nicely worn in and they sit lower than any inverted kingpin with better clearance, as well as easy to change if needed and don't have to mess with taking the kingpin out or other issues.

More than anything it was just an experiment that is easy enough to do and definitely works for every truck I have done it to, either to get more clearance or to prolong the life of an truck that was grinding on kingpin when worn down.

He's either cranking them down or trying out some madness like to two tops or something

[Ghost Face]

He runs them cranked otherwise there wouldn't be 2 threads left over it remove in the 1st place..

[DarkPools]

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I’m much more advanced….I would pay not to ride most trucks…

[close]

Ahaha hypothetically what trucks would those be?

[close]

You couldnt pay me to ride krux, grind king, silver, destructo maybe?

Same here. The only trucks I'd consider actually skating if I were to be paid would be:

#1 Indy
#2 Ace
#3 Thunder
#4 Destructo (only because they feel like Indy copycats if you don't analyze too long)

Everything else is garbage to me and not worth my time or money

[IpathCats]

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Is Reynolds running barrels or conical bottoms? I can’t tel with the photo.

[close]

I think they were just stock bushings, so cylinders / barrels, but could be wrong.

Never really got into any pro or other skaters setups in such fine detail, but could be more just the angle and distortion that is making them look more conical in shape.

My conical bushings have a way smaller bottom washer or sit in a lot more if I was running the bigger washer too, just comparing my own board here.

After years of madness, im trying to run these 149 standards as close to stock for as long as i can. But i have contemplated cutting the kingpin since im on the softer stock bushings (usually run hard blacks). They have already started squeaking though so i might need to throw the riptides in there. I do have some Ti hangers to.... oh fuck here we go again.

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I’m much more advanced….I would pay not to ride most trucks…

[close]

Ahaha hypothetically what trucks would those be?

[close]

You couldnt pay me to ride krux, grind king, silver, destructo maybe?

[close]

Same here. The only trucks I'd consider actually skating if I were to be paid would be:

#1 Indy
#2 Ace
#3 Thunder
#4 Destructo (only because they feel like Indy copycats if you don't analyze too long)

Everything else is garbage to me and not worth my time or money

#1 Indy
#2 Thunder
#3 Ace
#4 Venture

I would ride ventures for $ WAAAAAAYYYYY before destructos, it would be hard and I'd probably need to shave the top bushing, but at least i wouldnt be riding destructos.

[LebowskisRug]

Why is there kind of a conception that Indy's must be kept close to stock? I don't know the term precisely, but it's a conception that stock is best and everyone runs them stock. I see more people with cranked Indy's because they won't try harder bushings than I do with cranked Thunders but that's cuz I see more people willing to swap Thunder bushings out for something harder. It's almost a group-think mentality I even had it myself with Indy.