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What's it looking like under the baseplate? Will it hold a nut in there for inverted use or is it wider like stage 11's and require JB Weld?
Quote from: IpathCats on February 17, 2023, 10:58:52 AMExpand QuoteMaybe im biased becuase i've spent more time on indys overall (still ride/love aces on my cruisers) but i think the stage 4s look better than aces now that ive looked at them more and seen them from every angle.can someone post some pics of the bottom of the baseplate for our IKP-curious friend @logjammin over here?[close]Skip to 1:38 on the Nuzzi video and he's holding it with the underside of the baseplate showing.
Maybe im biased becuase i've spent more time on indys overall (still ride/love aces on my cruisers) but i think the stage 4s look better than aces now that ive looked at them more and seen them from every angle.can someone post some pics of the bottom of the baseplate for our IKP-curious friend @logjammin over here?[close]
Quote from: Frank and Fred on February 16, 2023, 07:31:31 PMExpand QuoteNext the Stage 4s bring the wheelbase in, even further than Ace. I haven't done the measurements but it looks pretty substantial. [close]That's interesting to hear. I lined the sample deck I set my 166 4's on up next to my old Heated Wheel with 66 AF1's (both boards have a 14.25" wb) and the axle to axle was pretty much identical. I also didn't notice that much of a weight gain over the AF1 hollows, but I also think that's because somehow the sample deck feels lighter because it has less of a taper and the weight is distributed a bit more evenly than the Heated Wheel board is (both boards are 9.25"x32" and weigh in at 3 lbs 3.2 oz). UPS came yesterday just in time for it to start raining, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to give opinions on how they skate.
Next the Stage 4s bring the wheelbase in, even further than Ace. I haven't done the measurements but it looks pretty substantial. [close]
OK after some quick measurements and averages the Stage 4 151s shrink the wheelbase by about 2 3/4" while the AF1s shrink the wheelbase by about 2 7/8"I'd say the wheelbase is about an 1/8" shorter on the stage 4s. It actually looked like a bigger difference before I busted out the tape.
I wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.
got these 136’s not even 2 hours ago. I set them up on my board, but haven’t had the chance to skate yet. when I stood on it though, they felt like a slightly more stable ace. I think I’m gonna like these a lot. I also forgot how much I prefer solid kingpins over hollow ones once I got these.
Quote from: gaunting on February 18, 2023, 10:23:36 AMExpand Quotegot these 136’s not even 2 hours ago. I set them up on my board, but haven’t had the chance to skate yet. when I stood on it though, they felt like a slightly more stable ace. I think I’m gonna like these a lot. I also forgot how much I prefer solid kingpins over hollow ones once I got these.[close]Prefer them why?Just standing on them felt better than hollow pins?Aesthetics?
got these 136’s not even 2 hours ago. I set them up on my board, but haven’t had the chance to skate yet. when I stood on it though, they felt like a slightly more stable ace. I think I’m gonna like these a lot. I also forgot how much I prefer solid kingpins over hollow ones once I got these.[close]
Quote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.
I wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]
Quote from: manysnakes on February 18, 2023, 09:45:51 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.[close]I feel pretty much the same way. I’ve been strictly Aces for years now but these initial experiences sure tempt me a lot even though I was “fuck Independent, never again” after the Jason Jesse debacle. I also have enough Aces to last me years so I don’t need new trucks. But still I’m intrigued. I wonder if the wheelbite is as predictable as it is with Aces. That was my main gripe with Indys. It always came as a bit of a surprise to me and then I ate shit. With Aces I know when it’s coming and know when to bail safely before I eat shit due to wheelbite.
Quote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.[close]
Picked up two sets of the ACE STAGE 4S.TBH they look pretty great but I can't skate them with this sprained ankle. So mostly this was done as a power move.
Quote from: Roisto on February 18, 2023, 12:32:09 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: manysnakes on February 18, 2023, 09:45:51 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.[close]I feel pretty much the same way. I’ve been strictly Aces for years now but these initial experiences sure tempt me a lot even though I was “fuck Independent, never again” after the Jason Jesse debacle. I also have enough Aces to last me years so I don’t need new trucks. But still I’m intrigued. I wonder if the wheelbite is as predictable as it is with Aces. That was my main gripe with Indys. It always came as a bit of a surprise to me and then I ate shit. With Aces I know when it’s coming and know when to bail safely before I eat shit due to wheelbite. [close]You sure you weren't on Thunders? ;P
Quote from: manysnakes on February 18, 2023, 09:45:51 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.[close]I feel pretty much the same way. I’ve been strictly Aces for years now but these initial experiences sure tempt me a lot even though I was “fuck Independent, never again” after the Jason Jesse debacle. I also have enough Aces to last me years so I don’t need new trucks. But still I’m intrigued. I wonder if the wheelbite is as predictable as it is with Aces. That was my main gripe with Indys. It always came as a bit of a surprise to me and then I ate shit. With Aces I know when it’s coming and know when to bail safely before I eat shit due to wheelbite. [close]
Quote from: manysnakes on February 18, 2023, 09:45:51 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: IpathCats on February 18, 2023, 09:17:11 AMExpand QuoteI wonder how many people will jump ship from ace?Skaters purely seeking the surf. Logos, politics, brands aside. Soul skaters. Side note, happy skate shop day everyone. Go spend some money at your nearest (skater owned) shop.[close]My prediction: There will be some initial interest, which will seem exaggerated to anyone who reads Slap since people here consume gear at several times the rate of the average skater, and then demand will cool and it'll just be another truck in the lineup.I've said a zillion times but the appeal of Ace isn't just the trucks, it's the fact that it's not Independent. It's a different brand, sponsoring different skaters and with different marketing.[close]I don't think this is AS big of a factor as you believe. It's definitely a factor, don't get me wrong, but it would be a pretty hard thing to quantify at the end of the day. I'm more inclined to believe that most people ride what works best for them.
Does anyone have measurements of the stage 4 bushings? Has Indy released any info on aftermarket bushings for the stage 4s? Would Ace bushings work?Someone needs to nerd out properly on these and post all the measurements for us other nerds to go over. The madness sure seems to be creeping in strongly for me.